A VICTORY FOR ILL NINO?

Thursday, March 18th, 2010 at 10:00am by

Here’s the head-scratcher of the day: Ill Nino have signed with Victory Records. Not just for the release of their next album, either – but for merchandising and publishing, too.

For Victory, this is a, uh, y’know, victory: Ill Nino are one of those nu-metal bands that still have a pretty decent-sized following (I think. Don’t quote me on that. But when they play here in NY, I’m always surprised at the size of the venues they book, so I’m assuming that people are going to see them. That being said, I’m never one of those people, so it’s entirely possible that they’re playing to empty rooms.). As is the case when Victory signed Otep, this means maximum payback with minimal effort, ’cause the fanbase is already in place (I call it “The E1 Business Model.”).

But I have no idea what’s in it for Ill Nino. I suppose they just became a “priority” band on the label, which is to say, they’re bigger fish in a smaller sea, as opposed to, say, if they were still on Roadrunner, where I imagine no one would take their calls so long as anyone from Slipknot, Nickelback, Killswitch Engage, or any number of bands were on the other line. On the other hand, they now get to experience Victory head honcho Tony Brummel’s allegedly shady business practices first-hand.

Is the trade-off worth it? I can’t imagine that it is, seeing as, like I said, Ill Nino already has their audience in place, and probably need less label support than an unestablished band would. But I could be wrong, I s’pose.

The good news is, I don’t actually like Ill Nino, so whatever happens, I can just stand back here in the peanut gallery and crack wise. Good times.

-AR

  • http://www.metality.net iRoar

    I could see a law suit in ILL NINO’s future now…

  • fantasyh

    Wow, this song is just about as close to a definition of generic as it gets

  • Marc

    I remember when Victory had bands like Integrity, Deadguy and Cast Iron Hike. fuck, I feel old.

    • Genial Gentile

      Don’t forget Bloodlet…them were the days.

  • Zoker

    Trying not to sound blasphemous and premising that I enjoy a few of their songs (which, anyway, might sound blasphemous to some), I think Ill Nino still have pretty decent-sized following because they don’t completely suck, they have… well, yes, I think I can say that… original influences and they are like… metal for the rookies or/and the metal outsiders. About the news, I don’t think I care about what’s going on for them (and I’m not really into these label deals) but I’ll probably give a listen to the new album if they’ll ever make one.

  • http://lordsofmetal.nl/index.php?lang=en Kavorka

    Ill Nino is the only nu-metal band that I really like, they’re not special musicwise, but their shows are very fun and energetic(and they had God Forbid as support last year in Europe). I hope they make something better than the last album. I found Enigma way too…softrock-ish at times.

  • Chris

    Victory has been signing two kinds of bands lately: Christian bands and old nu-metal bands. Really strange.

    • http://reaper-x.deviantart.com/ Reaper-X

      It’s like they’re trying to prepare for a sudden upsurge in popularity.

      • evilfatguy

        Which, given recent music trends, is not an ill-advised preparation.

  • Grymmbear

    “Hey, we lost Hatebreed, Darkest Hour, and Earth Crisis to better labels… let’s sign some also-rans like Il Nino!”

    • gojirasaurus

      and BTBAM!

      • Grymmbear

        Thanks, can’t forget those guys either!

  • Baldish

    I’m excited for 2 reasons, merch, and a new record. FU haters

  • mike

    “Is the trade-off worth it? I can’t imagine that it is, seeing as, like I said, Ill Nino already has their audience in place, and probably need less label support than an unestablished band would. But I could be wrong, I s’pose.”

    Yes, you are wrong. They completely sank when they signed with the now defunct Cement Shoes Records. Enigma was delayed by about 8 months, and sold like crap when eventually released. If they (and Taproot as well) can revive their careers with Victory then good luck to them.

    My prediction: Adema the next signing to Victory.

    • Rebelpyro

      Adema has already been ‘signed’ once again, and it isn’t with Victory. Not sure what labels see in signing has been bands. Sure a fan base is already in place, but really how big can a fan base be for a band that was never that ‘big’ in the first place?

      And I agree with Chris… not in regards to the signing of Xtian bands as I pay as little attention to that as possible, but in regards to Victory signing a shit ton of has been and never was Nu Metal bands as of late. Resurgence in popularity? I seriously hope not!!

      As much as I detest Sumerian’s plagiariffic Meshuggahcore roster, I’d rather see that bullshit trend surge in popularity to the extent that those bands end up touring with Metallica, Maiden and Korn, than to have Nu Metal 2.0 come about.

      And that’s my 2 cents on that…

      • mike

        Well, if not Adema, then how about..umm…Slaves on Dope..? :p

        Ill Nino and Taproot are two nu metal bands that actually never went away as such — so I don’t see any revival going on, and this will be further proven when Limp Bizkit’s new album flops.

  • Jonathan

    Love these guys.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Micheal-Vanderven/502827008 Micheal Vanderven

    i sincerely think victory records has gone down hill. ill nino is AWESOME, but any brand spankin newly signed band on victory blows, i hate every single young band on victory tot he fullest