FEAR, EMPTINESS, DECIBEL: DECIBEL‘S MANAGING EDITOR DISCUSS THEIR NEW HALL OF FAME SELECTION

Thursday, July 29th, 2010 at 4:30pm by

Before there were blogs there were these things called magazines, and the only metal magazine we still get excited about reading every month is Decibel. Smart, funny, insightful, and honest, Decibel is the reason we stay on the toilet even though we finished pooing a long time ago and now our legs are falling asleep; the reason we were late for your aunt’s funeral; the only reason we actually know anything about pornogrind.

We’re thrilled that the Decidudes have stooped to being our friends, and will now be writing a weekly column for us: “Fear, Emptiness, Decibel.” In this inaugural edition, managing editor Andrew Bonazelli serves as the voice of dissent against this month’s cover story/Hall of Fame entry, Refused’s The Shape of Punk to Come. You can buy the September 2010 issue of Decibel now wherever fine publications are sold, or, if you’re lazy/live in the middle of fucking nowhere, order a copy here.

Greetings, MetalSuckers. I’m the managing editor/token pathetic Mets fan at Decibel. I don’t really do much here except shoehorn bukkake references into captions and refuse to review anything until Hammerhead puts out a fourth full-length, but today I’m here to flog our glorious, vaunted Hall of Fame series. This month’s installment is Refused’s The Shape of Punk to Come, which is not only the HOF, but the cover, which shows how important it is to everyone at the office but me. I mean, don’t get me wrong, the scene in Friday Night Lights where the fuckhead high school jocks take the field to “New Noise” is THE APEX OF PUNK ROCK and everything, but anyone who’s seen the sanctimonious beat-off otherwise known as the Refused Are Fucking Dead DVD has to kind of reassess the merits of this album, don’t they? Or, maybe not — I mean, Vincent Gallo’s one of the most pretentious dickheads on earth, and I Celebrate The Guy’s Entire Catalog, even the one where he drives for 90 minutes, then gets blown. Anyway, let’s just say the idiosyncrasies that many Refused fans find groundbreaking are precisely what annoy the shit out of the nonbelievers.

Nick Green is the man who made this feature happen. It’s safe to say that, given the time he spent tracking the Swedes down, he vehemently disagrees. You know how fucking hard it was to get Refused to do these interviews? We wanted a Shape of Punk to Come HOF for Decibel #4 — we’re currently working on #72. Yeah. According to frontman Dennis Lyxzén, the band has granted maybe eight interviews since infamously packing it in following a disastrous 1998 stateside tour. However, after doing the DVD and the Shape remaster, they had a change of heart about reminiscing, hence our exclusive.

As you can tell by my (immature, asinine) tone, this is a polarizing record, either regarded as a truth-in-titular-advertising punk/hardcore revolution boasting flawless sequencing, or an overrated, pompous bastardization rife with ridiculous electro-wankery. So, let’s open the floor. Do you guys think it’s HOF worthy? Both yeas and nays can check it out on newsstands or our webstore pronto.

-AB

Fuck it, why not just buy yourself a subscription to Decibel? It comes down to about two bucks an issue for a one-year subscription, which is roughly thirty-six dollars more a year you could be spending on drugs, alcohol, rare 7″ splits, and internet porn.

  • chainsaweater

    2 to 4 good songs other than that meh

    • Seanicus

      You are fucking crazy. It’s a perfect record. Still resonates as well today as it did 12 years ago. SO FUCKING GOOD.

    • esteban

      killyourself

  • wtfhax

    This album is a fucking masterpiece

    • Balls

      Word. Is there such a thing as progressive punk? I dunno, seems like this would be it.
      I feel like Everlasting is the best straight up hardcore punk album ever made.

  • Graham Mitchell

    listened a few times… pretty good. i like Propagandhi much better.

    • stu1

      Ummmmm, ok??

    • Jason

      That is like saying “AC/DC are alright, but I prefer Van Halen.” Two different things.

  • ferocious_fetus

    One of the best albums ever. I’m ready to frame/mount this issue of Decibel when it arrives.

    • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/62449cbe5ea8d22bcc2e76890fceaa37?s=80 LordBling

      Totally. I’m gonna have to buy this issue now, dammit.

  • GoingDeaf?

    It was both a punk/hardcore revolution AND rife with electro-wankery. The way they incorporated the “outside” elements is what made it unique. It’s deserving of the a HOF spot simply because of its influence. I don’t love ALL the songs on this record, but it is very good and still holds up today (largely due to their influence still being apparent).

    • Jason

      Pretty much this.

  • GoingDeaf?

    Also, if you’re going to discount the record because a band member is an asshole, you’re HOF list is probably going to get pretty thin very quickly.

  • http://thatdevilmusic.blogspot.com Rob Liz

    Nice sales pitch for Decibel at the end but ,honestly, if you’re spending money on internet porn, you’re doing it wrong.

  • slowmotion

    I loved this album when it first came out, thought it was the best thing late-90s hardcore/punk had done until I heard Cave In’s Until Your Heart Stops. Today I’m kind of sick of it, still love a few songs but a lot of the songs get on my nerves now. Today I am more fond of the New Noise Theology EP & Songs to Fan the Flames of Discontent than this album for some reason.

    • Genial Gentile

      Really? I’ve found that STFTFOD in particular has not aged well to my ears.

  • I, Monarch

    I bought this record a long time ago off the hype as one of the premier hardcore lps to get… and still it’s underwhelming to me. It’s OK I guess but I’ve heard many more metallic hardcore records that I’d rather hear than this one

  • Steph

    It’s hardly rife with electro wankery, there are electro bits in like 3 songs and they’re mostly just in the intros. I think this album is brilliant. Tannhauser / Derive is such a unique, amazing hardcore song.

    • Strapping Young Lad

      I agree, I fucking love that song. Violins rule.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Phil-Freeman/1315346890 Phil Freeman

    Since I’m a big Ornette Coleman fan (Wikipedia is your friend, kids), I love the title of this record, but I hate the actual music. I never heard it until it was reissued this year, but I have now, and it sucks. Also hate to be “that guy,” but it is not in any way a metal record, which I realize isn’t a 100% necessary qualification for being in the Hall of Fame (they’ve done Bad Brains, Deadguy and Quicksand in the past, after all) but it oughta count for something when there are so many far more deserving metal albums to cover.

    • stu1

      No.

      • MelsGibson

        So you’re point is that “The Shape of Punk to Come” is not metal.

  • mad_mooney

    Holy crap! I totally do that toilet thing with Decibel….staying on the toilet long after I’m done so I can keep reading…..I thought I was the only one.

    I don’t feel quite so alone now.

    Goodbye, Xasthur demo….I won’t be needing you anymore.

  • Robert

    Still pissed that the Decibel review of the reissue gave this a nine. If there’s ever been a “10″ reviewed in the pages of Decibel, this is it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Colbert/535041444 Dave Colbert

      There has been like 3 or 4. They gave the last Pig Destroyer a 10.

      • Genial Gentile

        …and I think The Red Chord’s “Clients” did as well, which is a decent album, but far perfect as a 10/10 would imply.

    • http://www.last.fm/user/xynobia xynobia

      I think the dude was implying that, of all the records Decibel has reviewed over the last six years, Shape of Punk to Come was the only one that was really deserving of a 10.

      And you forgot Blue Record, you wankers.

  • the_dglgmut13

    Ummmmm…… CAN I SCREAM?!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Colbert/535041444 Dave Colbert

    I’ve been a subscriber for 4 years now, worth every penny… BTW, remember that shitty Lightning Swords of Death review on this very site? Decibel just gave it an 8…

  • str8ev

    the good parts of this record always just seemed like a watered down version of all the bands that they were blatantly ripping off while they bad parts were just…bad. it always cracked me up that after trying to the nation of ulysses with this band, dude went on to try to rip of the schtick of the make-up with the international noise conspiracy.

    • bosse-de-nards

      so true. so funny that nobody mentions international noise conspiracy. such a terrible band. polyester shirt-core.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Goodkind/71106456 Ben Goodkind

    The Shape Of Punk To Come is fucking perfect

  • bosse-de-nards

    it’s a decent record. if you think it’s ground-breaking or next-level or whatever the fuck then you’re clearly too young or too dumb to recognize everything they ripped off. dude’s just aped a bunch of bands, removed the challenging parts, and condensed it into a greatest hits album of hardcore/punk/metal moments. fun to listen to? yes. students of the past that added nothing? for suuuuuure.

    also, the “can i scream?” moment would make a pretty good intro for a whole case study of their half-assed political posturing.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dan-Burton/784250631 Dan Burton

    When Refused first started out they were just a terrible Euro Hardcore band. Like literally absolutely laughable.

    Check out the track ‘Pump The Brakes’.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsJEVbJwCEU

    I agree that Songs To Fan The Flames Of Discontent is a more solid record then ‘the Shape….’ but, its still a great record, but unfortunately it sounds very ‘of its time’ now.

    • Steph

      Pump the Brakes rules.

  • Mike Hill

    I got a blowjob (from a female) while listening to this record with headphones…so I guess I like it.

  • Lack of Contraception

    I really enjoyed this album. Not in a ZOMG!! way like a lot of people, but it has some killer cuts. e.g. Summerholidays vs. Punkroutine. And the electro stuff was really fun. Why knock it?

    Can a critic please explain who exactly Refused (apparently) ripped off on this album? I mean that seriously since I don’t have an extensive knowledge of hardcore.

    • http://www.flamingtusk.com Zosimus

      Everything on this record that isn’t electro wankery sounds like high school kids trying to sound like Fugazi and Nation Of Ulysses, et. al.

      • str8ev

        definitely total N.O.U. worship. maybe a little unbroken stylewise. plus the obvious born against references. except only about half as good as those bands

  • http://www.last.fm/user/xynobia xynobia

    As a huge fan of Shape of Punk to come, I was psyched that Decibel finally got this rare white reindeer of a HoF. Love it or hate it, this is a record lots of people still have strong feelings about, twelve years after its release. I appreciate that the article helped answer some of the questions surrounding the album, but one question I wish Nick Green would’ve pursued, though:

    Band-leader and would-be Marxist Nick Lyxzen says he remembers how the band “played at cafes and youth centers and subsisted entirely on veggie subs at Subway” on what would be their final tour. Wait a minute. The most successful pinko band since Rage Against the Machine likes to Eat Fresh? Doesn’t that seem a tad hipocritical for a dude who wrote lyrics like “I’ve got a bone to pick with capitalism/and a few to break”?

    I know this is a stupid thing to quibble about, but seriously, I wish Green had called bullshit on this one. I understand a band’s gotta eat to tour, but for a band that was as idealistic as Refused, this seems like a valid question to bring up. It shouldn’t (and won’t) affect my opinion of the record, but it seems to invalidate some of the lyrics–and wordy manifestos–that it contains.

    The gears of the revolution will be greased with the oil and vinegar of the workers!

    • http://www.flamingtusk.com Zosimus

      There are a bunch of quotes from at least one other dude in the band about how all of Refused’s political lyrics were essentially empty posturing. It seems like, at least in retrospect, only Lyxzen took that aspect of things at all seriously.