#25: PAUL RYAN (ORIGIN)

Monday, May 2nd, 2011 at 5:00pm by

MetalSucks recently polled its staff to determine who are The Top 25 Modern Metal Guitarists, and after an incredible amount of arguing, name calling, and physical violence, we have finalized that list! The only requirements to be eligible for the list were that the musician in question had to a) play metal (duh), b) play guitar (double-duh), and c) have recorded something in the past five years. Today we kick off our countdown with Origin’s Paul Ryan…

Tragically, it seems like there are a lot of people don’t even know who Paul Ryan is, and a lot of those who do know who he is dismiss him as just another trend-following guitarist — albeit a talented one — in the death metal scene. An awfully large amount of metal fans just view Origin as “that tech death band with that really fat vocalist and crazy sweeps,” but James Lee’s recent departure should hopefully clear shit up for people.

Paul Ryan is actually one of the most skilled pioneers of the tech death scene, primarily because he doesn’t just use technicality to create mindless and forgettable wankery (see: Brain Drill et al.) and because he doesn’t just use heaviness to create mindless and forgettable breakdowns (see: Oceano et al.) It’s pretty sad that the majority of other bands these days are so bad, but it’s great for Ryan — his skill stands out from among the masses.

He’s got nearly immeasurable chops, but unlike similarly talented guitarists, he incorporates his unique sweep style into the riffing and even the basslines instead of just in the solos. In this day and age, it’s hard to make sweeps sound heavy — or even entertaining, now that they’ve been heard a thousand times over — but Ryan somehow manages to make his sweeps be almost catchy, slipping them into passages mixed with tremolo picking and brutal chord measures.

Check out the song “Antithesis,” the title track of Origin’s last album, to hear a perfect example of Ryan’s skill. The song is heavy, but it’s not boring or down-tempoed to the breaking point. There’s shredding, but it doesn’t drag on and on without variation. His work is honestly what’s made modern death metal listenable for me. All of Ryan’s work follows this skilled, well-written pattern, and makes him a fantastic modern guitarist — definitely check out Origin’s new album when it’s released.

-DM

  • Dissolution

    Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! List is off to a great start so far!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Corey-Cobb/566162517 Corey Cobb

    Is this list going to take 25 days to complete or what?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alejandro-Aldana/683878171 Alejandro Aldana

      it probably will.

      • Mouthful of Precious Stones

        yea i lost interest as soon as I saw only 1 guitarist per day

        • john doe

          so…what are you gonna skip over the article when you make your daily internet rounds?

          • hATE-eR

            I guess he (Mouthful…) doesn’t realize the point is TO KEEP US TUNED IN…! Great start too, I agree. Never heard this band til tonight, the name Origin just doesn’t fit the style, but that’s just me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jamel-Banner/731572742 Jamel Banner

    Please tell me y’all doing 5 guitarsts a day and not one everyday for 25 days

    • http://allmetalresource.com Matthew Grant Anson

      You want this to end in five days?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sanskar-Wagley/1376400331 Sanskar Wagley

        25 days is too long

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gilded-Thrones/100001415057666 Gilded Thrones

        I want this to end today.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jamel-Banner/731572742 Jamel Banner

        Yea…..much better to do it in groups than just one a day

        • amnesik

          Hey i got a tip for you! stop coming on MS for a month, and when you’ll come back, all 25 Guitarists will be announced!!!!! :O

          • nigbot

            But hao will i keep up to date with the latest hapening frum mai fav crabcore band?

  • Tim

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/shill – Yeah, we know they have a new album coming out. You told us, and I’m sure you will again.

    That was incredibly generic and painfully, awkwardly bad, by the way. Especially the end. You MUST be getting paid for this.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kyle-Kessler/1031820406 Kyle Kessler

      Dave Mustein is a corporate shill and I have proof. Tonight at 11

      Ragging on Oceano is not shilling bro.

    • steve-o

      shill out bro.

    • john doe

      you really think origin has money to pay metalsucks to include them in an internet article? those dudes are probably struggling to buy taco bell

      • Tim

        I have no idea how much money they have, but despite my wild accusation the guy still sucks. Sure, it’s a step up from Brain Drill, but it’s still only a step up from Brain Drill. His phrasing and note choice during that solo at the end was cringe-inducing.

        • Aether Jake

          I really liked your phrasing and note choice in the solo at the end of “The Tim Saga” though.

          • Tim

            Why thank you!

        • Bach

          Tim youre a dumbass. listen to Origin’s new song on their facebook, it shows amazing song writing structure and great unique style with technicality, melody and heavyness all in one.

          • Duderino

            Explosion Of Fury is so FUNKING EPIC!
            Shit, the break from 0:58 and delayed drum entrance after the stop at 1:12 sends chills down my spine everytime.

          • Tim

            Already listened to it… basically, it sounds to me like Obscura with all the interesting parts taken out. Or, Cannibal Corpse. Really uninteresting.

    • cyrollan

      Tim says, “no musicians can make the list… whose band has an upcoming album”

      • Duderino

        Tiiimmaaaah

  • lost goat

    the thing is,is “tech-death” REALLY death metal??? or is it super heavy technical metal?
    the term death metal has been co-opted by so much bullshit these days and its getting ridiculous

    death metal isnt about technicality or sweeps or clicky drums or noisy difficult to play skronky guitar patterns

    its evil,dark,raging,fucked up thrashing metal,and that shit sounds better when its played all crusty than when it is all clenched up and hiccupy

    i say this music isnt death metal..it is what it is,but it isnt death metal

    • Pickles the Drummer Doodly Doo Ding Dong Doodly Doodly Doo

      Your right! It’s not death metal. That’s why it’s called Tech Death.

    • http://www.heavyblogisheavy.com Alkahest

      You’re right. technical death metal isn’t actually death metal. I don’t see where people get the idea that they’re related. Next thing you know people will start saying melodic death metal and brutal death metal are death metal as well.

      • Brian

        That was the dumbest fucking argument I have seen in a long time. So, if something is straight death metal, it’s not death metal…well no shit! That why things spawned from “death metal” have other adjectives, like “melodic” death metal, “brutal” death metal, “tech” death metal, death”grind”. The whole point of the sub/micro-genres is that they are noticeably different from the original style.

        • http://thenumberoftheblog.com/category/stoner-sunday/ Gaia

          I believe Mr Alkahest there was being sarcastic. Not everyone on Metalsucks is an idiot.

          • Slaughterhouse

            +1

            How could he not tell he was being sarcastic lol

      • Utmu

        I really want “Like” buttons on comments now… there is no limit to how much I can say that. “I don’t see where people get the idea that they’re related.” HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Great…

  • Conan6500

    I would say Origin is the perfect example of riff salad death metal. Antithesis was quite forgettable. I hope the new album is less one dimensional.

    As for play skill, the guy is a beast.

  • jadon

    totally agreed. origin is very good technical death metal. haha the reference to brain drill was good. but you have to give the guitarists and bassist credit for being able to shred so fast and for so long (song: quantum catastrophe). true the shredding is at times irratating and boring but probly 80% of other bands couldnt shred that fast. but as far as entertainment they are kinda meh.

  • Ray Peterson212

    I like Origin, but I just need some more groove and not so much fast as shit DM. Speed is great, but change it up a little.

    • The I

      Yeah, I’d like to hear a little bit of tempo change and stuff in their music, but it’s cool. I still enjoy an Origin album every once in a while.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Anthony-Showalter/100000592087843 Anthony Showalter

    Man, I really want to see one of my favorites on this list, Andre Olbrich of Blind Guardian, but I’m almost certain that he’ll be overlooked. His solos are actually really well planned out instead of just mindless shredding like what so many other artists do, and he has this singing lead tone that I’ve never heard from any other guitarist. LISTEN TO THIS SONG TO HEAR WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojAdAR2yoAw

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jordan-Oates/1476540021 Jordan Oates

      Would he really be considered a modern metal guitarist though? I mean they still release albums currently, but when many people think BG’s best era was about 15-20 years ago, Idk if it can be considered modern

      • James M.

        Are you kidding? At the Edge of Time was amazing.

        • Bob Cock

          The last two albums have been amazing, and he does have really well-integrated solo work.

  • yzermantiis

    Good pick! I can’t wait for the rest of this list, the pissin and moaning by after each pick will be hilarious

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zachary-Dominguez/100000156346443 Zachary Dominguez

      Thats the only reason I pay attention to these things…all the griping that comes afterwards lol

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vince-Decker/100002225040320 Vince Decker

        hahaha yes exactly. most of my entertainment comes from reading yalls comments

  • Cw

    Meh. Unmemorable shredder.
    Songwriting is, you know, usually pretty essential.
    But thats just me

    • Betelgeuse

      Yep. No songs = no give a shit.

  • lost goat

    if you want to hear the pinnacle of metal guitar playing and tone,check out Hellwitch “torture chamber”…that song is the epitome of brutal riffing and ungodly tone

  • SourDeez

    Definitely an insanely skilled guitar player, but I find this band incredibly boring. I’ve tried and tried and tried to get into Origin and technical death metal in general but it’s just not my cup of tea. I like a tiny bit of subtlety in my death metal. Origin is like everything flying at you all at once. I can totally understand why some people dig that, but it’s not for me.

    • http://twoja-stara-gra-metal.blog.onet.pl/ Simon

      1

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Corey-Cobb/566162517 Corey Cobb

      Most tech death only appeals to me in a basic, surface-level, vicarious way and I think that’s how it is with a lot of listeners. Sure, some truly appreciate the skill that goes into making the music, but I think most are just like “lol thats insane i cant do that on guitar derp”. I just think theres a lot more that can be injected into this music to make it something other than a bunch of dudes jerking off on their stringed instruments. I say stringed instruments because the drummers in these bands all do the exact same thing over and over again, and none of it is innovation. We’ve all heard Nile before.

      tl;dr: Tech Death bands need originality and something other than blasts.

  • Seth

    Should have done 5 a day to make it a 1 week list.

  • Strapping Young Lad

    HEY! Nobody bashes Braindrill and gets away with it. Apocalyptic Feasting is a modern death metal classic… Their new one however… yea thats a wankfest.

  • Jewers

    Origin is terrible

    • martin

      You, Sir, is terrible.

      • nigbot

        Tech-Death as a rule is pretty bad.

  • yzermantiis

    Portal is still one of my favorite metal songs….

  • tito

    hell yea!!! great start!!

  • Ryd1ZZ

    So… does Tosin get #1 or Misha?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jamel-Banner/731572742 Jamel Banner

      Neither…..

    • RoCkStArBaSs100LuVr

      This says “metal” guitarists….

    • SourDeez

      I think Tosin Abasi and Misha Mansoor are certainly eligible as metal guitarists. They’re shreddy, sure, but they definitely count as metal.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jamel-Banner/731572742 Jamel Banner

        Oh yea….but I don’t think they are the most important Modern Metal guitarists or the best…..

        • Ryd1ZZ

          At first it was meant to poke fun at MS, since they are always slobbering over these two dudes. Now that I think about it, they very well could be toward the top of this list. A few others I’m sure will make it based on their love from MS, Paul Waggoner, Revocation (either of them lol), Luke Hoskin (PTH), and the mighty Devin Townsend. All pretty legit for this list.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alan-Hubbard/1630400598 Alan Hubbard

            Dave Davidson (dude from Revocation) should be top 5, for sure. One of the most interesting players I’ve heard in a long, LONG time.

          • halloway

            Davidson FTW.

  • Johnny

    the guys of BTBAM better be top 10 including Devin Townsend.

  • http://crescentshield.com Crescent Shield

    “In this day and age, it’s hard to make sweeps sound heavy — or even entertaining, now that they’ve been heard a thousand times over”

    Definitely.

  • Steve O

    Wait, you disregard Brain Drill and then rep Origin in almost the same sentence? Paul Ryan basically PIONEERED the art of random sweeps that add fuck-all to a riff/song/etc. How anyone can say that the random part in The Aftermath where he just sweeps for like… 30 seconds straight, all 32nd notes with no variation, sounds good or adds something to the song, is fucking stupid. Anyway, Ryan is good, but I mean, his solos are just about bog-standard and Origin have pretty much no memorable riffs to speak of.

    John Longstreth, on the other hand, is jaw-dropping.

  • shitfun von tastic

    Lies, the Emmure guitarist is far more skilled than this wanker. Another typical example of the ignorance of the mainstream metal press. Screw this tasteless philistine

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vince-Decker/100002225040320 Vince Decker

      someones mad. i think its funny how you use the word “mainstream.” perhaps if you defined that. VH1 coverage of the golden god awards or whatever that shits called, thats mainstream metal coverage. as some have pointed out, Origin prob has a helluva time affording taco bell. mainstream? i think not, sir

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Corey-Cobb/566162517 Corey Cobb

        Annnd that’s a troll.

      • Metalguy

        Dude, ive seen you fall for every troll the past couple weeks, chill out

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Matt-Hurley/1289730334 Matt Hurley

      Successful troll is successful

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zachary-Dominguez/100000156346443 Zachary Dominguez

    Cant wait to see the rest of this list so I can be disappointed and totally disagree with it lol

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Corey-Cobb/566162517 Corey Cobb

      One or two “djent” guitarists. Probably BTBAM. Devin Townsend. I’m already feeling iffy about the next 24.

  • grossj

    lol @ 3:48 on the “Antithesis” youtube link.

  • Anthony

    I don’t know who this guy is

  • kanwulf

    BORIGIN

    • Matt

      Very nice.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Taleim-Edwards/570782716 Taleim Edwards

    Well i really like Brain drill and find origin kinda boring..but that said i’ll still pick up their new album just in case, love me some tech death….

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Matt-Hurley/1289730334 Matt Hurley

    Meh/10. Don’t really feel strongly about Origin or their guitarists either way. Just gonna put out there again – Per fucking Nilsson.

  • lost goat

    the thing i hate about all this “tech” shit- other than it doesnt rock and its boring as fuck- is that its so open ended that theres jack shit for any kinda standard..its like noodly noodly the fuck outta the guitar,the rest of the band spazz out like monkeys on crank,and have some guy go “raaaah raaah screeee screee wraaaar!!!”

    i mean whats the difference if its on time or not on time,if its tight or sloppy? the sloppy could say “its meant to be that way its some ugandan 56/98754 time signature”,and its like,oh ok

    i understand that people need mathy shit to nerd out over,every genre has its math shit…………..but this stuff…i can put some rocks and marbles in a blender and itd be the same kinda noise

    im have to call bullshit

    • Clancy

      im luv ur inglesh brah

    • simply too awesome

      I call that you’re a lost goat on this issue. It’s like rocks and marbles in a blender? ……….o-kaaayyyeee

  • Matt

    Honestly, without his somewhat unique sweep style he would never get a mention as a guitarist anywhere, and because he relies on that in every single song i’ve heard by this band I’d definitely class him as a generic, forgettable player. I thought this was the type of thing that was trying to be avoided in this list? Nonetheless, on to the next one.

    Btw, do any of the staff here even play guitar?

    • False Nate

      I think either Axl or Vince has talked about how they fiddle around with the instrument sometimes… Maybe it’s both of them.

      • Betelgeuse

        At the same time?

  • Stevhan The Invincible

    good write-up but so humourless for the sarge’s standards.

    that said here’s some bands that he forgot:

    Neglect
    Next Step Up
    One4One
    Integrity and Ringworm and In Cold Blood (I suspect the were rather left out than forgotten but why?)
    Blood For Blood (dude how could you forget…)
    Catharsis (I can see why they weren’t included but they were hard hitters musically speaking)

    Sinnce I am Euro-cunt here’s some local bands the sarge won’t probably even want to check out but some metalsuckers might.

    Congress
    Backfire
    Hard Resistance
    Crawlspace
    Length Of Time
    Angel Crew
    Kickback
    Deviate
    Out For Blood
    Bolt
    Third Man Down
    Ratfaced

    • cxj

      i think you’re lost.

  • Drums_ov_death

    I hope that “Swigelf Swissgar” and “Toki Wartooth” = Brandon Small, makes the list!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kasper-Maigaard/1027001938 Kasper Maigaard

    That sucked.

  • Driven9

    he sure can play fast…

  • Utmu

    From the songs I’ve heard, I like Origin. To be honest though, the title track of Apocalyptic Feasting by Brain Drill came off as kinda’ catchy to me. I normally hate lists of great guitarists because they’re rarely good lists due to the fact that there are a lot of guitarists out there, and a lot of those guitarists can shred, then you have to add in song writing talent, and while that shrinks the list down a great deal, there’s still a lot of guitarists that would be eligible for that list, and half of them probably aren’t even in a well-established band in the scene, so those guys won’t even be considered for the list.

    Idk, this list started off well (for me at least). Lets hope it doesn’t go downhill from here…

  • Slaughterhouse

    I would say that he has talent for sure but not jaw dropping and his phrasing wasn’t the best when the solo came in. I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t be on my list

  • merginator

    Origin just posted something regarding this article on their FB.

    “Ladies and Gentlemen. Please disregard the insulting comment in the Metal Sucks article referring to James Lee’s departure. Origin does not condone this comment, nor do we find it accurate or necessary. James Lee was in Origin for 9 years, he did an amazing job, and he is still a very close friend.”

  • Logos

    So you’re saying that Paul Ryan hasn’t been noticed until now because James Lee is fat? How pathetic.

  • David

    I personally feel his proposed buget plan is a joke.

    Teabagger…

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Corey-Mitchell/660352330 Corey Mitchell

      LOL’d and agreed…