METALHEADS: CUT THE SHIT AND STOP SUPPORTING BURZUM

Tuesday, July 26th, 2011 at 4:30pm by

Nobody should have been surprised. Varg Vikernes’ odious, conspiratorial, anti-Semitic commentary on the Norway tragedy is just the latest statement of ignorance from the man behind black metal’s most infamous project, Burzum. You’re welcome to read it if you’re into swastikas or crackpot theories for the tinfoil hat set. Your time would be better spent watching dubstep remixes of Charlie Sheen interviews on YouTube.

Interest in Vikernes’ music appears to have spiked in the wake of his 2009 release from prison, having served twenty-one years for arson and murder. A new Burzum record emerged in 2010, and another one followed just this past March. Music journalists have leapt at the opportunity to interview Vikernes, with print venues like Decibel giving the man the cover treatment and inducting his Filosofem LP into its “Hall Of Fame.” I’ve sat dumbstruck at the fawning softball questions posed to him by writers for outlets like Guitar World, Invisible Oranges, and, much to my chagrin, this very site. (Full disclosure: The interviewer on that last one is a personal friend.)

Why do metalheads choose to support Vikernes?

First, we have to accept that there those in the metal community that share or at least sympathize with Vikernes’ noxious views of Jews, blacks, and other non-whites. I’m not suggesting that they are the majority, but to deny the existence of white nationalists, anti-Semites and racists — overt and covert — in this scene is foolish and ignorant. But that leaves a whole lot of other people who still own Burzum albums, including colleagues and friends of mine who don’t seem to mind my personal jumble of heritages. So what about them?

Stereogum contributor Brandon Stosuy prefaced his 2010 interview with Vikernes with a drawn-out explanation of why he listens to Burzum:

Yeah, of course, admitting to enjoying Burzum in public raises a number of questions and opens you up for attack. For starters, what are my “responsibilities” as a listener and a consumer? Huge questions, but questions fans of extreme music, art, etc., will inevitably have to face at some point unless they’re willfully keeping their eyes closed. I’ve always tried to unpack and understand things that challenge me and my beliefs. I read difficult books, enjoy difficult art, etc.

Stosuy, one of the few bold enough to directly ask Vikernes tough questions, may have given more thought to the “whys” of supporting Burzum than most, but what I’ve quoted above hits at the heart of the matter. People are often drawn to metal music for its dark imagery and subject matter. But where’s the limit?

Today, metalheads have to ask themselves: do we really want to associate with someone whose opinions are so intolerant and vile simply because he can write a tune? That’s indefensible without making shameful apologies and excuses. No amount of pseudo-philosophy or separating-the-music-from-the-man is going to make it okay.

So cut the shit; stop supporting Burzum. Don’t buy Vikernes’ records, don’t visit his website, don’t put up with publications giving him a forum or legitimizing him. And if you’re a journalist, stop covering him. There are so many other bands out there to enjoy, so many other ways to spend your time.

Face it: you’ve stopped listening to other bands over less.

-GS

  • darkdragon

    I havent supported him. I dont like his music at all.

    • Charlie

      Same here.

      • Captain Obvious

        good for you 2.

        i for one think burzum is awesome. i have some releases on both cd and viny. i respect the man for not being afraid to speak his mind, and i agree with what he has to say most of the time.

        no, im not trolling. seriously, why cant you people just accept the fact that some people wont like blacks and jews. some people dont like whites, but they dont get bashed for hatred.

        the fact that you are a multiracial individual explains perfectly why you dont understand, and never will.

        i think ill pick up a copy of Fallen on vinyl now, because i dont own it yet, and would rather give my money to varg than some jew banker, or black loser on welfare

        • The Greys

          Your comments are pretty boned-headed, Captain Oblivious.

          • Captain Obvious

            @The Greys

            nothing more to offer than a kindergarten level pun on my internet handle?

            you are a shining beacon of intellect

        • Goatsak666

          YES!!!! dude you are so fucking right. All these blacks, Hispanics, and other races stay trashing on White folds, yet nobody calls them out on it. I think that is just complete crap. I’m Mexican and i get sick and tired of these Black and Hispanic A$$holes talking crap about White people and what not. And everyone just smiles and laughs away. But when a White man starts bashing on Colored folk he is automatically hated and considered a A$$hole. I will always support Varg. I don’t care if he doesn’t like my people. Who cares? Not everybody likes everybody. GET OVER IT!!!!! Besides who isn’t racist? If you say your not, your definitely full of $hit!!!!!!

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jack-Lenehan/4001425 Jack Lenehan

            yeah! i fucking hate everybody. burzum is the band for me

        • Adam

          This whole “respecting the man for speaking his mind” stuff has to stop. Its not as if hes a voice of righteousness speaking his mind against an oppressive government, or a guy fighting for those who can’t help themselves, hes just some loose cannon that doesn’t have a filter! He’s not groundbreaking or inspirational or righteous, hes just not all there mentally. Also worth noting – whether you “give your money to Varg” or not, you’ll be spending that money from your bank account that “some jew banker” owns, and the government will still continue to take money from you for welfare! So really, you’re not doing anything but supporting an insane dude who makes awful fucking music, and can’t mix an album for shit!

    • Sven

      At least he condemned the attack, and, to my surprise, didn’t even support the holy war against Muslim immigrants. His crackpot ideas are, as always, entertainingly bizarre, and simultaneously, obviously crazy enough to prevent anyone from actually being won over by the argument. I see him as having always been a (relatively) harmless circus side show, good for laughs and maybe getting a few people to be aware of the Scandinavian metal scene.

  • http://dystrophy.bandcamp.com devin townsend’s lost skullet

    go Suarez! go!

    respect

    • CeeCee

      +1

  • Kevin

    I kind of agree. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with LISTENING to his music. I would never pay for an album, or see him on tour, or support him in any way financially. The problem I have is when fans of Burzum can’t seem to separate the artist from the art. I can enjoy his music while still being fully aware of what a horrible piece of shit he is. Some people can’t seem to do that, and because they enjoy his albums feel the need to make excuses for his behavior.

    We can all watch a Roman Polanski movie, and I can respect the talent, but I would never make any excuses for him as a person.

    • Obey the Badger

      This

    • Joe

      You mean you’re not buying tickets to the Burzum/Darkthrone/Xasthur World Tour 2011?…….

      • Andrew

        I see what you did there

    • Wango Tango

      Couldn’t have written it better myself.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Warrell/516025342 Richard Warrell

        Same here – I like to think I can enjoy the artistic merit of the music, severed completely from any connection to the man by refusing to support him in a monetary fashion.

  • http://www.robinkfoster.com TheChaosPath

    I can only point out the irony that, directly underneath the article telling me not to support Burzum, there are links directing to go buy Burzum products.

    • http://dystrophy.bandcamp.com devin townsend’s lost skullet

      CM Distro’s trollin

    • Farva

      Beat me to it. “The ironing is delicious.”

    • http://www.metalsucks.net/category/scraping-genius-off-the-wheel/ Gary Suarez

      Consider it a challenge.

      • http://fantasyh.wordpress.com fantasyh

        Shit, are you people that dumb? The ad box at the bottom of each post is populated by an algorithm which scours the page looking for keyword, which this case are mostly Varg Vikernes and Burzum. Of course the ads are going to point to Burzum records. How is this still, not something completely fucking obvious to everyone is beyond me.

        • Charlie

          Shit, are you that dumb? The content of which people are posting is generated by their delightment of the irony created by the algorithm which scours the page looking for keyword, which in this case are mostly Varg Vikernes and Burzum. I love how you think you’re so smart, but it just makes it clear that you are socially fucking retarded.

          • http://www.robinkfoster.com TheChaosPath

            Came here for this, leaving satisfied +1

          • fantasyoosh

            IMO you don’t get to play the irony card here. Not anymore anyway. Is it still ironic that when you type Toyota into Google, AdWords for Honda come up? Don’t think so.
            My understanding of such posts is that contextual advertising is so ubiquitous, that it stops being ironic when situations like this one occur. When I read posts like the first one in this sub-thread, it seems to me, that person thinks that those ads were put purposefully by a human being, and find that ironic. Because if you actually do think about the fact, that the whole task is automated, it loses all ironic value, because of such juxtapositions of content and ads happening all the time all over the web

          • Charlie

            To quote Jared Lee Loughner here: “Wut r words w/o meaning?”

            RAWR RAGE U ALL DUMB I, ON DA OTHER HAND, AM SMART. It’s apparently funny to people, does it make you feel better to say their humor is unjustified due to their level of intelligence? Or are you just one of those people that find satisfaction in being a dick when other people are having fun?

            omg we dumb. u smart.

            Go have fun having no friends and spending your time not laughing.

          • fantasyoosh

            I can admit to overreacting. I just went kinda wild for no apparent reason, not completely unjustifiably so, but definitely over the top with the internet zealotry.
            Put it simply – I, myself, did not find the ads neither ironic nor very funny, but that does not mean I should be a dick about it. If you found it funny – that’s fine, it doesn’t make you stupid.
            I thought about the irony angle on the first post, but still got pulled in for one of the simplest troll tactics ever. Shame on me

    • Darkthrone’s Tour Manager

      Honest question, doesn’t every cent that Varg earns goes to paying his restitution? If so, then by purchasing Burzum swag wouldn’t one actually be supporting that which he loathes?

      • Daniel Guzmán

        hahaha great point, it’s the same with people buying Che Guevara t-shirts at malls.

  • Saint

    Great article.
    You bring up some great points.
    I’m interested in seeing reader’s reactions.

  • Sergeant D

    Agree 100%. Dude is a fucking tool and his music is for entry-levellers.

    • Rolling Thunder

      ^ this pretty much sums it up for me. I liked burzum about 12-14 years ago until I found out more about the person making the music. Much like learning how your favorite food is prepared then no longer eating it out of disgust is what happened for me.

      I feel most people who listen to music that is not for popular consumption do so because they want more out of it. They’re not just satisfied with a catchy beat and rhythm, it’s much more personal, hence why fans of said music feel betrayed when the person(s) behind it turn out to be assholes.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jarad-Weston/5141241 Jarad Weston

      Agreed. So much more intelligent and thought provoking black metal out there.

  • Jewers

    Burzum sucks so much ass.

    • Seb

      Yep.

  • John

    From the very Stereogum interview you linked to:

    “And what is my message? When did Burzum ever address political/racial matters? I don’t think Burzum has ever even addressed religious matters, other than describing different European myths. Burzum is not a political or religious band, or even an anti-religious band. Burzum is music; art if you like, and the interpretation of art lies in the eye of the beholder. I might be Nordic, heterosexual and have a Pagan ideology myself, but why would I expect the fans of my music to be just like me?

    I am a narrow-minded ultra-conservative anti-religious misanthropic and arrogant bigot, alright, and I have a problem with just about everything and everyone in this world, but I am not demented, and if those who are not like me are able to enjoy my music that is all fine by me. Be a Christian-born black gay feminist converted to Judaism for all I care, or worse; a Muslim. Just stay off my lawn… :-)

    Oh, and I may add that I have a problem with most Nordic heterosexuals with a Pagan ideology as well.”

    Get off your fucking moral high horse. You’re a fucking journalist. It’s just music.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nick-Choops-Mroczko/753784289 Nick Choops Mroczko

      this. + a million interwebz for you

      • Kevin

        He also murdered someone. I think that alone would be enough to let a normal person not feel the need to support such a man. But yea, we will all get off our “moral high horse”.

        • Jesus2000

          What about soldiers? Is their state condoned murdering make it ok to support them?

        • Farkyoo

          Ever hear of Hip Hop? You have a lot of preaching ahead of you.

    • Bakaked

      Its bad to give your money to those who use it for hate.

      • Farkyoo

        Then you shouldn’t support anyone, because EVERYONE hates something.

    • enemyofgod72

      “Get off your fucking moral high horse.” — If Vikernes hasn’t reached a level of depravity that makes you question your morals by supporting the man or his music then who would? Would it be acceptable to support Hitler as long as he made a good album? I don’t care that he burned a church since I think they should all be burned down but he killed someone. There is nothing redeeming in that. But Vikernes isn’t the only one with actual blood on his hands and if you ban him you should ban others who have committed heinous crimes as well.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Wilson/100001154166348 Dave Wilson

        A perfect example of Godwin’s Law in effect.

        • Monkey Knife Fight

          It seems fair to me to introduce Hitlerian comparisons when you have insance anti-semitic ranting. This is one part of Vikernes’ post from 3 days ago where he blames the jews for a shit tonne of the world’s problem.

          “What Mr. Breivik has said is largely true, in all except in what he doesn’t say; he doesn’t tell us that the Jews are the origin to all these problems, and that they were created by the Jews to hurt us”

          Fuck you Vikernes, or as your mommy called you, Christian.

          • Adam

            Except he shits on ALL religions. People keep forgetting this, JUDAISM ISN’T A RACE, it’s a belief, an insane, just as stupid and damaging belief as Christianity. I’ve never seen him call for the genocide of actual races, he doesn’t want them in his country, but he doesn’t have a problem with their existance…I think. I can say jews believe in bullshit and that the belief should be whiped from existence just to the same extent I can say it about Christianity. I don’t think it should be done with murder, rather education, but I shouldn’t be put in the same context as genocidal nationalists and nazis because I think all religions are stupid including judaism, which the second you mention your discontent in it’s beliefs, makes you the same as a racially intolerant bigot, which are A LOT worse for humanity.

    • Beauzaque

      Yeah let’s get off our high horses, because we’ve all killed someone at one time or another, right?

      Or maybe not. Go worship your piece of shit hero by yourself. Maybe you could deny the holocaust while you’re at it.

      • John
        • Beauzaque

          Oh piss off, idiot. If you support someone’s music, you supply them with either money or public exposure. Someone like Varg uses that to further support his hateful ideologies, therefore supporting the man’s music allows him to further spread his hate speech. You want me to explain it to you further, or would you rather just post another wikipedia link? I mean, we all know how enlightened that makes you look on the internet.

          • Dr. Scene Hair

            Mental retardation (MR) is a generalized disorder appearing before adulthood, characterized by significantly impaired cognitive functioning and deficits in two or more adaptive behaviors. It has historically been defined as an Intelligence Quotient score under 70. Once focused almost entirely on cognition, the definition now includes both a component relating to mental functioning and one relating to individuals’ functional skills in their environment. As a result, a person with a below-average intelligence quotient (BAIQ) may not be considered mentally retarded. Syndromic mental retardation is intellectual deficits associated with other medical and behavioral signs and symptoms. Non-syndromic mental retardation refers to intellectual deficits that appear without other abnormalities.

            Mental retardation is a subtype of intellectual disability, although that term is now preferred by most advocates in most English-speaking countries as a euphemism for MR. However, intellectual disability is a broader concept and includes intellectual deficits that are too mild to properly qualify as mental retardation, too specific (as in specific learning disability), or acquired later in life, through acquired brain injuries or neurodegenerative diseases like dementia. Intellectual disabilities may appear at any age. Developmental disability is any disability that is due to problems with growth and development. This term encompasses many congenital medical conditions that have no mental or intellectual components, although it, too, is sometimes used as a euphemism for MR.

          • Beauzaque

            Thanks doc, but I think I’ll get a second opinion.

        • Dr. Second Opinion

          Well….here it is, YOU RETARDED FUCK!!!

          Mental retardation (MR) is a generalized disorder appearing before adulthood, characterized by significantly impaired cognitive functioning and deficits in two or more adaptive behaviors. It has historically been defined as an Intelligence Quotient score under 70. Once focused almost entirely on cognition, the definition now includes both a component relating to mental functioning and one relating to individuals’ functional skills in their environment. As a result, a person with a below-average intelligence quotient (BAIQ) may not be considered mentally retarded. Syndromic mental retardation is intellectual deficits associated with other medical and behavioral signs and symptoms. Non-syndromic mental retardation refers to intellectual deficits that appear without other abnormalities.

          Mental retardation is a subtype of intellectual disability, although that term is now preferred by most advocates in most English-speaking countries as a euphemism for MR. However, intellectual disability is a broader concept and includes intellectual deficits that are too mild to properly qualify as mental retardation, too specific (as in specific learning disability), or acquired later in life, through acquired brain injuries or neurodegenerative diseases like dementia. Intellectual disabilities may appear at any age. Developmental disability is any disability that is due to problems with growth and development. This term encompasses many congenital medical conditions that have no mental or intellectual components, although it, too, is sometimes used as a euphemism for MR.

          • nick

            Someone’s got a retard soft spot. You won’t guilt us into banning another perfectly useful word!!!!!!

      • Misanthrope

        While you’re at it, get people to stop performing Wagner…
        Oh wait, he’s still considered one of the greatest composers that ever lived and contributed to Western civilization in a huge way. His “anti-semitism” notwithstanding.
        Why can’t the same thing be done with Vikerners music in the context of his contribution to metal?
        You fail Beauzaque.

      • Misanthrope

        While you’re at it, get people to stop performing Wagner…
        Oh wait, he’s still considered one of the greatest composers that ever lived and contributed to Western civilization in a huge way. His “anti-semitism” notwithstanding.
        Why can’t the same thing be done with Vikerners music in the context of his contribution to metal?
        You fail Beauzaque.

  • Tortiss

    Burzum sucks. A lot of black metal does too.

    • darkdragon

      Yup, death metal over black metal any day of the week.

      • SP420

        Lol, like saying I’ll take cat shit over dog shit.

        • Chickenboy

          Pansy.

        • Driven9

          haha. yup

        • DidgeryDo

          LOL +1

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Pat-Arriola/100002131340820 Pat Arriola

      This times 10000.

  • sweatdripsfrommyballs

    Someone should forward this to Angry Black Metal Elitist and see what he has to say about Varg. Oh I don’t listen to black metal cept for Immortal cuz Abbath is one funny fucker.

    • MachinaeSupremacist

      Even the ABME has his limits.

  • http://twitter.com/#!/JoshTheLink Link

    Fuck Varg and everything he stands for. I never have and never will devote a single cent of my money to him.

    • amelia

      And is everyone REALLY sure they actually know what he stands for?

      I suggest everyone read this (if you’re impatient skip to the 3rd or fourth paragraph:
      http://www.burzum.org/eng/library/a_burzum_story07.shtml

      I think we need to quit making so many assumptions because it seems that very many of them are wrong or based on little fact.

      • Marco

        Is that supposed to justify him? This man is (like most conspiracy-obsessed persons) completely living in an alternative reality and doesn´t have any real arguments behind his views.

  • BigDan

    Good work Gary, I couldn’t agree more.

  • cougar party

    Anyone else think it’s a tad absurd that this whole posts talks about how we shouldn’t listen to Burzum because Varg is a racist, but never touches of the fact that perhaps we shouldn’t support Varg because he is a FUCKING MURDERER?

    2011: Racism worse than Murder.

    For the record, I do think Varg is a stupid fuck.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alex-Smolin/115200313 Alex Smolin

      This

      Racism sucks and all, but is there really anything more reprehensible than killing another human being?

      • darkdragon

        I thought Varg killed in self defense.

        • cougar party

          He claims that it was in self defense, but he stabbed the guy 23 times. Also, when he talks about the murder his lack of remorse and regarding the crime is quite apparent. I am not a psychologist, but he sort of strikes me as a sociopath.

      • Fred Durst

        Yes. You can kill all the white people you want, that’s fine, but if you dare to kill a minority, you should be burned on the stake.

        Says the 2011 PC lib

        • Doug Fudge

          sub-par trolling, man.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Razza-Tu/717008242 Razza Tu

        Yes there is. Killing multiple human beings.

      • Doug Fudge

        I would say rape is way, way worse. In theory, you could have a “reason” for killing another human – self-defense comes to mind. There’s really absolutely no conceivable justification for rape, though.

        • Marco

          The worst crimes of all time are as follows:

          1. Listening to Emmure
          2. Going to Emmure concerts
          3. Being in Emmure
          4. Writing about Emmure…wait, cancel that.
          4. Rape
          5. Murder

          • ShreddyK

            THIS

            is funny.

      • freftd

        killing anything for any reason other than self-defence/defence of another/survival in order to eat and feed your family. is morally reprehensible
        and isnt just restricted to humans sentience is sentience.

        and varg is a fucking tool who is just another guy that draws attention away from the real conspiracies and power games that those in power play with our lives and our futures day in day out by doing what every retard decides to do when they dont know where to direct their anger “THE JEWS DID IT”

        nothing but disrespect for the dude.

        • cougar party

          Never understood why some people seem to think the Jews are the cause of all their problems.

        • Paul

          +1
          However the self-defence part i agree with. You wouldn’t know what it would be to be attacked by someone until it happened. You don’t know what kind of nervous reaction this would bring in you. I don’t know why people still bring this up, it’s survival of the fittest after all.

        • MooseMan

          Why would you want to kill in order to eat and feed your family. How can you feed them after you’ve eaten them? You’re a sick mofo!

    • canea

      Exactly. And he didn’t kill just anyone either, but someone who was at the forefront of a new genre and might have easily gone on to produce more musical projects worth listening to.

      • freddy

        that’s pretty irrelevant – murder is murder, brah.

        • canea

          Sure. But it makes it slightly more relevant to metalheads.

    • the pair

      keep in mind his avatar is a picture of phil spector during his murder trial. at least spector had jungle fever i guess.

      • 0114

        Murder is meh. There are 7 billion fucking people on this planet. Why not look the other way while someone takes a few out. It definitely wouldn’t hurt things to bump off a few black metal losers.

  • http://tyrannyoftradition.wordpress.com/ Keith Spillett

    He’s a novelty act. It’s like having an uncle who you know is going to do something outrageous over Thanksgiving dinner once he gets some bourbon in him. It’s hard not to look because of the sheer ridiculousness of his routine. You make a good point, though. Some people really don’t find him funny and actually relate to the stupidity that spews from his mouth. I probably should remember that when I’m telling the uninitiated Varg stories. Good piece.

  • inhumanrampager

    I thought he only served like 16 of those 21 years, and that he’s out on probation.
    Either way though, I tried listening to his music, and it sounded like he recorded it on a toilet.

  • Jack

    Just another reason not to give this man anymore money.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Skyler-Diotte/624920439 Skyler Diotte

    i dont know what i hate more Varg or his shitty band. but i remember i was in mexico last year and when i was in the market i seen this big Mexican guy (mma type build) wearing a burzum shirt and all i could think is i would love to see him and Varg in the same room lol

  • old man doom

    …And then there’s a link right underneath the article to buy Burzum LP’s.

    The man and his philosophies are irrelevant. Besides his current and future music releases, he contributes almost nothing to the Norwegian community except hateful diatribes like all the responses published on his website. He makes good black metal, hell, he was one of the founders of the movement, but that does not mean everyone needs to subscribe to his doctrines or radical beliefs.

    This is not the way to increase Norwegian Nationalism. You can’t have pride in your nation and heritage whilst having massacred your own countrymen and women in a conspiracy-fueled terrorist attack.

    • troe

      Couldn’t agree more. +1 for you, sir.

    • The Uncool Guy Down The Hall

      Isn’t your last statement pretty much the same as Varg’s last statement?

      “Oh, and by the way; true nationalists don’t kill children of their own nation, even if someone tries to brainwash them, like AUF did. They were not (yet) Marxist extremists; they were just children.”

      • old man doom

        Sure, I suppose it’s the same idea, but my closing statement was not preceded by Jewish conspiracy rants and I did not close by suggesting that the victims were “not (YET) Marxist extremists.”

        Not yet Marxist extremists? That’s just as bad as stupid-ass Glenn Beck calling the summer camp victims “Hitler Youths” because they were there to learn about government and politics.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bobby-Nall/1537330640 Bobby Nall

    Amen.

  • Leyla Ford

    I agree!

  • Frank

    Pointless article. Out of all the new bands emerging along with new releases and tours that will not be covered or supported, why waste time writing an article that ultimately won’t change anyone’s mind about Burzum either way?

    And if you’re going to write about anti-semitism in black metal, why not do an article on VValknut or Hate Forest or something? At least you’d be giving readers something other than a tired, ‘boo-hoo’ temper tantrum on Varg.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Grinman-G-Rinman/1669130777 Grinman G. Rinman

      Yeah, I’d rather read a piece dealing with racism and anti-semitism in metal as a whole rather than “Don’t listen to Burzum” needlessly stretched out over a couple hundred words. It would be way more interesting and informative than talking about Varg more.

  • http://deathmetalbaboon.com/ byrd36

    I like the last two Burzum records a lot. His dumb-ass views aren’t represented in his music and as long as he keeps the two separate and makes music I like I’ll keep listening. I feel no need for apologies but I will say I agree that outside of his music he is an idiot.

  • raiseyerfists

    Vikernes has odious views, but his music is largely apolitical and speaks to a lot of people. Self-righteous articles like this one just serve to build him up into a bigger boogeyman than he already (actually?) is.

    • Blut

      +1

    • No Wrest

      +100

  • Jason

    There will also be dogshit people with irreprehensible views for people to take issue with, and even be justified in doing so. But the whole “we need to band together as metalheads” diatribe is cringeworthy, even obnoxious to a point. Just because some mouthbreathers are too immature and unable to separate the person from their product does not mean I have to follow their lead. Kind of goes against the ethos you’re soapboxing, isn’t it?

    No, I don’t agree with Varg’s stances on a lot of things, but when you start asking of “where’s the limit,” that’s a very slippery slope and I’d like to think that you’re intelligent enough to know that, Gary.

    • Aggressorot

      pretty much nailed it

  • D

    Well im not a supporter and also not too familiar with his music and philosophies but their is some truth to his conspiratorial views. Didn’t take the time to dissect his statements but as more unfolds regarding this event certain things are very similar to other ‘false flag’ attacks which is unfortunately historical fact. Has been apart of military action since Rome dominated the world and prob before. We should be very skeptical of events in our lifetime, that is not paranoia. The way he uses the word ‘jew’ holds resentment which detracts from his view. Israel does have more control then most care to uncover. But most people also will never accept govt is your military, banks and corporations, not the current administration. Calling September 11th a false flag attack still makes people cringe

    • Hetal

      So, the “false flag” attack here by Israel is meant to deceive the public into thinking the attacks were carried out by… White Christians?

      Blaming Jews for the world’s ills is a crutch for people who are too dumb to dissect the nuances of global events.

      • D

        I think the fact people are dissecting events is a good thing, especially the nuances of global affairs. But most people who major in history, economics and finance will actually be convinced nothing else goes on behind the scenes. Would I be surprised if full disclosure of this results in determining this a ‘false flag’ event? Certainly not. Do I give a fuck what this dudes opinion is? Certainly not.

        And blaming ‘jews’ is of course insensitive and just simply wrong. But the nation of Israel and their military action has been far reaching. At no point did I say Israel had a hand in this though. So please shut ur jew ass up and fix the financial crisis in the world….. thanks

        • Hetal

          Yeah, I’m not Jewish — my name (Hetal) is a dead giveaway to that.

          As I can now see, you’re not quite as keen to worldly matters as you aspire to be, whether it’s determining people’s ethnicity thru the internet or gauging the Israeli military’s covert objectives.

          • Misanthrope

            But he has pointed out the far reaching effects of Israeli interests in the world political and economic affairs, which has been echoed by many politicians of calibre. You on the other hand talk about his supposed lack of nuanced understanding, but do not offer any proper perspective of your own.
            So Hetal, you fail.

          • Misanthrope

            But he has pointed out the far reaching effects of Israeli interests in the world political and economic affairs, which has been echoed by many politicians of calibre. You on the other hand talk about his supposed lack of nuanced understanding, but do not offer any proper perspective of your own.
            So Hetal, you fail.

          • Misanthrope

            But he has pointed out the far reaching effects of Israeli interests in the world political and economic affairs, which has been echoed by many politicians of calibre. You on the other hand talk about his supposed lack of nuanced understanding, but do not offer any proper perspective of your own.
            So Hetal, you fail.

  • Matt

    “Don’t buy Vikernes’ records, don’t visit his website, don’t put up with publications giving him a forum or legitimizing him”

    Ok, so why did you post a link to his site in the second sentence of this article? Wouldn’t it make a little more sense to not link to it thus generating less hits to his site?

    Duh.

    • \mike/

      not to mention that this is all free publicity as well

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-Frazier/100002182298476 Colin Frazier

      Further more, the part where they say “…don’t put up with publications giving him a forum or legitimizing him…”. Yet, before that, he even put a link to an interview that this site did with him. So should we all stop supporting this site?

      I don’t agree with half the musicians that I listen to, and I set the point. However, this article is just retarded.

  • Sapien

    I disagree. Yes, Varg is a racist pseudo-intellectual bigot, but there is nothing wrong with enjoying his music if you don’t buy into his values. He keeps his music and his ideals separate. I have strong Jewish heritage but I still fucking love Burzum, and that’s okay.

    Besides, buying his music/merch doesn’t support some kind of evil empire. This is one guy with a failed political movement typing up childish social and political theories out on a farm out in the middle of nowhere, and these theories typically fall on deaf ears.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Hkon-Obdsaija-Bergstad/712321132 Håkon Obdsaija Bergstad

      If you should stop listening to musicians whose actions and ideology you don’t agree with, there’s alot more than Vikernes you should add to the list.

      …aaand with all the millions he owes for the churchburnings, all the money you spend on Buzum albums and merch. will go to the norwegian state instead.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Corey-Mitchell/660352330 Corey Mitchell

        If you should stop listening to musicians whose actions and ideology you don’t agree with, there’s alot more than Vikernes you should add to the list.

        Ted Nugent comes to mind.

        As far as Varg is concerned, I’ve always thought he was a complete dick after murdering Euronymous. Murder outweighs racism any day in my book, though the latter is obviously reprehensible as well.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nicholas-Low/1316362139 Nicholas Low

          yeah this ^ varg tends to be very vocal and up front about his fringe ideologies, so it is easy to boycott his music based on disagreements. Makes you wonder though about the things that musicians believe (not just metal) or artists in general, and whether or not it should affect your consumption of their material. Martin Heidegger comes to mind, maybe not an “artist” but perhaps the greatest philosopher of the last century… Nazi.
          How many great writers/ artists/ musicians have committed violence or rape??? does this really affect the quality of their art at all?

  • Mark D

    If he makes good music, then why should people stop listening to it? but if hes a horrible piece of shit, then supporting him financially by buying his products would be indecent.

    • Justin

      thats an excellent question “if he makes good music, then why should people stop listening to him?” if only burzum was good!!! honestly shits garbage. Honestly, in regards to myself though, an artists personal views dont have much recourse as to whether or not i’ll listen to their music and enjoy it. I dont agree with varg whatsoever, hes a dumb cunt, but that wouldnt matter to me if his music was good. its not though. i dont need to hear 7 and a half minutes of the same god damn riff over and fucking over again. same fuckin 3 chords, no talent, repetitive bullshit

  • Peteara

    This reminds me of some other band in the last few years – their name escapes me, starts with an A – that were always lauded musically, but hated for their imagery and supposedly racist lyrics. Every time I’d read a review, the comments came from two different camps: I don’t care about their views, they write awesome music, or, I’ll never even give these guys a chance because of what they represent, regardless of how great their music is.

    I don’t like either band, so I don’t really care too much. However, I’ve often thought about how I would react if I found some band, ended up loving them, then was told that they were blatantly racist or something.

    • Master of Nuggets

      The band in question is most probably Arghoslent. Also i think both band are great i dont care what people think what they worship or whatever, its their problem and it will not prevent me from buying their stuff.

      • Peteara

        Arghoslent, that was it. Thank you, that was driving me nuts.

  • Igottawocket

    A-fucking-men. Fuck this bigoted piece of shit.

  • Colin

    idk i just like his music idk why considering hes a horrible person and recording quality lol

  • Kuranes

    A journalistic piece about a guy journalists shouldn’t write about with links to his website that we aren’t supposed to visit is a bit self-defeating.

    …That said: “The Christians and the Muslims, ladies and gentlemen, are but soldiers/cannon fodder for the Jews in their mission to enslave us all under their rule.” What a bizarre world this dude lives in.

  • ScottySCOTT

    Even if Hitler made amazing music, his actions is no excuse to deny your love of his arts. If your a fan of this guy’s music, by all means, buy his records to promote his artistic side, so you can hear more of what you love.

    • つり

      Hitler actually was an aspiring artist before he came to power. If his work hadn’t been rejected by “intellectual elites” earlier in his life…………..world history would be VERY different. Same thing with Castro (he wanted to play professional baseball). So, yeah. BUY HIS RECORDS PEOPLE.

      • FlyingMonkeyofDoom

        someone else would have taken the road those two have taken. not like there is a lack of genocidal maniacs in world history. Stalin, Mao, George Bush, The Khemer Rouge…

        • つり

          Yeeeeeah. I can’t argue with reasoning that sound. You win the internet, FlyingMonkeyofDoom.

  • XbdgrkdX

    People who hate on bands like Krallice, Wolves in the Throne Room, Agalloch, etc. for not being Kvlt: That’s exactly why many people love them. For the most part, Black Metal is an antiquated, stale genre that has been in the hands of “purists” for way too long. Music is there to be experimented with. If those types of bands are too “hipster” for your tastes, fine…but don’t give me the Kvlt argument, that is a bunch of irrelevant bullshit. Unless you happen to be a Nordic, intolerant, Kvlt asshole, in which case, I really don’t fucking care what you think about ANY type of music.

    • Pantera202

      This.

  • jd091

    HE LIKES HIS CORN FLAKES CRISSSSSSSSPY! Of course I support him!

    • http://www.robinkfoster.com TheChaosPath

      LOL you win +1 intarwebz, sir

      • B-RAD IS RAD

        ha

  • Jaxuhn

    I guess I’m gonna need to stop listening to R. Kelly too. Sigh.

  • Fred Durst

    I’m gonna buy a copy of Filosofem just to piss people off.

    • XbdgrkdX

      Fred, Varg hates Gold Cobras….think about that for a while

  • Nonsensei

    Not that I was ever a Burzum supporter in the first place, but I’ve dropped bands I enjoyed a helluva lot more out of my collection for being bigots.

    Suarez asks, “Where’s the limit?” Advocating the violent removal of what Varg would refer to as lesser persons, which in and of itself is some festering shit perspective, from their places in the intergalactic Jewish reptile conspiracy in interviews and written statements. Yeah, usually my line is drawn before deplorable epithets.

    Why defend this? Because it sounds good? I very well might be missing out, but not supporting Varg Vikernes makes me feel a whole lot better about myself.

    • Nonsensei

      Also, I’m not likely to support you when you’ve served the maximum sentence for murder.

  • kalyaamm

    loooooool

  • Anonymous

    Ok, this article is pointless. You rant about Varg as if you are obsessed with him. This is the internet, and he is entitled to say whatever he wants, just like this giant rant you posted. Nobody is forcing you to listen to Varg, or to read his personal opinions. His music is his own, an expression of art he made for himself, but allows others to enjoy it too. People find Varg to be fascinating because he is. He sparks controversy with every little thing he does, and the press and sites like this eat it up. If you don’t believe a single word that comes out of his mouth, STOP TALKING ABOUT HIM. This site talks about Burzum, posts an interview, advertises his merch, and then contradicts itself by posting something like this.

    If you really feel that strong about Varg, maybe you should stop talking about him. You only cause more people to check out his music and ideology when stuff like this is posted. Remember, everyone is entitled to an opinion. Just because you disagree with what he said, doesn’t make you any better by posting something like this. The internet gives equal power to all voices, that includes crazy folks and perfectly sane ones.

  • AGHAST

    I just bought a bunch of Burzum merch in spite of this posting.

    • kalyaamm

      :D

    • TheHateMachine

      I just downloaded his whole catalog and i am goingto sell it at retail so i can personally make sure he gets every dime from the sales. Anyone that can make the d bags that run this site pissed off I am all for. Ps. I have several jewskin lampshades for sale also

  • ZackP

    I agree 100%. Its a fucking joke that a Jew-hating murderer gets as much positive coverage as he does. There’s nothing cool about a killer who firmly believes in a worldwide Jewish conspiracy that (in his mind) dates back to pre-Biblical times. Granted he may write music that some find enjoyable, he’s still an absolute piece of shit that should NEVER receive the attention he gets. It would be like saying “Forget how many millions he killed, Hitler did a fantastic job unifying Germany”.

    • Planeswalker

      I respect Hitler for being the great strategist that he was.
      Same goes for Varg and his music. Both are horrible people though.

  • Bicro

    I quite agree. Have never bought a thing from this bigot/murderer’s discography and never will.

  • Woopdiedoo

    If people like his music then they should listen to it. As long as he doesn’t use it as “propaganda” which in my opinion he doesn’t. I still think Burzum fucking suck but that’s another topic.

    What I don’t get is how anyone in the Metal community, especially websites, can tolerate him and go as far as to interview him. I wouldn’t be able to have an interview with him without telling him numerous times what a fucking dipshit he is and how he should die. I mean on top of being a murderer he is a racist, nationalist and totally crazy lunatic.

  • skullsession

    “Face it: you’ve stopped listening to other bands over less.”

    There’s probably not one person on these boards that wouldn’t disagree with that.

    • Jones

      not wouldnt disagree

  • Mitch K.

    listened to the band maybe once, definately dont care for this guy or his music (or most of black metal in general)… supporting this kind of stuff is absolutely wrong. people think death metal is bad because it talks about killing people and shit you see in horror movies but music thats overtly hateful towards a certain race/religion really shouldnt garner much support from anyone (that includes Deicide, despite how funny i find them at times). id like to think metal heads are smarter than that.

    • Fred Durst

      The music is not hateful towards anybody, he keeps his personal views out of his music.

    • Adam

      His music contains absolutely no Racial or Religous(Middle eastern mind cult ones at least) relations at all. it’s all Norse mythology and dyin an shizz

  • AGHAST

    Varg is the greatest living satirist.

    • steal.money.for.drugs

      i think that varg vikernes is sergeant d.

      • colbow

        win.

      • jd091

        XD

  • Whitey

    I like Burzum & will continue to listen to his music. The Decibel interviews are very good. Do you think that if you close your eyes that Varg Vikernes is just going to go away. I doubt it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Austin-Pearl-Nutter/1418565949 Austin Pearl Nutter

    I like how he actually used the term “international Jewry”.

  • Andy Synn

    At the risk of trying to continue an intelligent discussion…

    It does have some similarities with this article posted in The Guardian:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/jul/26/israel-chamber-orchestra-wagner-bayreuth

    About an Israeli orchestra playing Wagner. A difficult conundrum. But the conductor himself states in another interview…

    “Wagner’s ideology and antisemitism was terrible, but on the other hand he was a great composer… the aim is in the year 2011 to divide the man from his art.”

    Now personally I don’t think Burzum is very good music. Nor do I wish to support it. But there is clearly something musically there if others who share different, often opposed, views can appreciate it away from the man himself.

    Also – for those raising the old kvlt/purists vs new styles argument, there are many bands playing more technically adept, aggressive forms of black metal who are far from tired purists – sounding like Wolves In The Throne Room is not the only way to try and be “different” in the realms of black metal. That being said I am partial to Agalloch and Oak Pantheon in a big way.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jaymz-Stupidname-Hina/100000866625703 Jaymz Stupidname Hina

      id like to thank you to being the only person to START a decent conversation here, blog poster included.

    • Jason

      Thanks for bringing up Wagner. I was gonna say, ever been married? Your bride most likely walked down the aisle to the music of one of the most notorious anti-Semites ever. Furthermore, this particular anti-Semite actually did influence Hitler.

  • Steve O

    Born of Osiris are a bunch of pampered assholes that look like they just stumbled out of an Ivy League dorm, that have no responsibilities off tour other than setting up the date of their next party or when to pick up an ounce of weed. They give off a rich suburbanite waste of flesh vibe, which to me is utterly repugnant, and they’re essentially a pack of braindead rejects. Yet people still cite them as being awesome, and listen to them, and get them on the Billboards, etc.

    Same with Dave Mustaine. The guy is an asshole and a liar no matter how you look at him, and yet tons of people still support Megadeth.

    The case with Varg is no different– yes, he is a racist and murderer, no I don’t see how that has any relevance to how good his music is. For fuck’s sake, Hvis lyset tar oss is the best black metal album OF ALL TIME, and the other first 3 Burzum releases are right up there as well, and yet you feel it is acceptable to diminish the greatness of Varg’s music because the guy behind it is an asshole? FUCK OFF. Take a single song from HLTO and it will eclipse the artistic merit of BTBAM or The Human Abstract ten times over.

    I know Suarez wrote this, so it probably isn’t serious, but even so, this article is infantile and laughable. Perhaps you could appreciate Burzum more if you quit smoking about 86 grams of weed a day and paid attention to an aspect of non-entry level bands that ISN’T mere aesthetics. Proles.

    • Fred Durst

      The primary Born of Osiris fanbase is just a bunch of Ivy League dormroom kids anyways, who want to look tough when getting their trust fund check.

    • Android

      I agree about BoO and Megadeth, but I have no idea how you can say anything this moron has made is better than even BTBAM’s worst songs.

      • gnarlk

        burzum was always tinny, monotonous and weak. overrated dogshit to the nth degree and if it wasn’t for hipster journalists and ANUS types, christian would have been forgotten years ago.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Corey-Mitchell/660352330 Corey Mitchell

      Regardless of whether I believe you should spend a dime on Varg Vikernes’ art projects or not, this is the epitome of a ridiculous false equivalency. So the guys in BOO are pampered frat boys and Dave Mustaine is a dick — but to compare them to a convicted murderer and a self-professed proud racist? Not even in the same ballpark.

      Thanks for the chuckle.

      • つり

        OH
        MY
        GOD
        YOU
        FUCKING
        PROLES

        • http://www.coreymitchell.com Corey Mitchell

          Actually, more of a middle-classer.

        • http://www.coreymitchell.com Corey Mitchell

          Good to see you back Kitty, Dr. Scene Hair!! You’re on your own tonight.

          • Steve O

            Got ya again, Corey.

            PWNED
            PROLE

            Nite nite, dad.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Corey-Mitchell/660352330 Corey Mitchell

            Get back to me kitty when you learn the definitions of “got ya” and “pwned.” As I said, thanks for the chuckle.

            Now, back to your Norwegian bestiality home vidz you dirty old man.

            Smoochies.

          • Steve O

            I thought I was on my own? DFTT, Corey.

            DEFINED

  • Wilcifer

    I SUPPORT Varg…because most of the glue sniffing bands like the djent flavor of week or as i laying perishing, have nothing that they stand for aside from trying to be heavy for the sake of being heavy. I to follow the path of Astaru but i don’t see eye to eye on Varg on all of his points called into question. Be Glen Benton, Frank Zappa, Erik of Watain or Varg , it’s a shame more artists don’t stand for something with depth and weight. it’s why the majority of music metal or otherwise is shallow and empty. I could careless about shredding not backed the conviction of their playing from their souls.

    • Brock Sterns

      Hey that sounded good! I liked that!

    • joffo

      I dig your comment, but have one problem with it – the limiting factor. Varg and his ilk have a narrowing view of what is acceptable. It’s like he’s going in the opposite direction of what is acceptable, with death being the price for falling outside of his constrictions. This is the opposite of a good artistic attitude which looks to ‘deepen the mystery’ by bringing more into the fold, not violently excluding. Zappa stretched the limits and challenged us to join him, Varg narrows his and threatens us to defy him. Big difference.

    • Douchenozzle

      Yeah, because music can’t just be about the MUSIC, right?

      • MooseMan

        All music should be ‘just about the music’.

        Only problem is, Burzum isn’t music. It’s a guy with a tape recorder who drops sun-dried dog feces into a blender along with a can of kvlt .45 and then peddles it off as ‘music’.

        Also, black metal was never really ‘just about the music’, brah.

  • kalyaamm

    varg=troll

    • Hetal

      Lulz.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Will-Breen/1371272524 Will Breen

    Fuck Varg Vikernes. Mayhem and Darkthrone were/are better bands than Burzum, anyway.

  • hdfhgdh

    god, im sick of black metal being big again these days. Black metal is just punk, everyone. sorry to break it to you. It was made by a bunch of teenagers who couldnt play their instruments right. Im sorry, dimmu borgir is a better band than whatever underground kvlt crap in some remote village in belarus. get over it. just cuz 5 people know about something doesnt mean its cool. You want to see how cool black metal is, go listen to the vocalist from liturgy get interviewed. Then tell me black metal isnt dead. ulver is good, burzum isnt. sorry to rant like a mufucka, but damn, im sick of this new black metal fad.

    • bowing headds

      ???

  • Dubs

    Fuck this PC bullshit. Nigraz be hatin on mah homie.

  • Sapien

    Also, as someone with Jewish blood (but not religious), I’m almost flattered that Varg thinks we run some kind of worldwide empire. In reality, Jews are funny-looking, generally awkward people with ugly names and good food around the holidays who make up less than 1% of the world’s population. We generally keep to ourselves and our own communities.

    Seriously, imagine a Jewish world government. It would be like Seinfeld but with diplomatic immunity.

    • Yojimbo Slice

      As another Jew… I completely agree with this statement. +1

    • http://deathmetalbaboon.com/ byrd36

      “Seriously, imagine a Jewish world government. It would be like Seinfeld but with diplomatic immunity.”

      Now that would be a fuckin’ show!

    • columbo

      That’s something that I always found hilarious.
      Stereotypically speaking,
      Jews are insecure awkward people with giant noses, and horrible mothers.
      They are funny, and make great doctors, but are useless for manual work. They argue all the time, and they have an extreme hunger for money and gold.,,,

      Oh.. And they secretly run the whole world together.
      —-
      Btw: I base my jewish stereotypes on things Jon Steward and other famous Jews say about themselves.. I’m from Norway like Varg, and we only have about 1500 jews here.
      So I can’t base it on real life encounters.

    • Bierko

      What I love most is that they claim jews are inferior, animals, etc and they are the superior races. Yet, if they are superior and jews inferior, why are jews so good at getting one over on them all the time. By their logic, the jews are superior.

      They talk about jewish media control? Sorry, if there was jewish media control, every country with powerful nazi parties in europe wouldn’t have been suppressed. Austria is run by a nazi party for years now and the US uses them for neutrality arrangements instead of Switzerland now.

      And the Jewish media doesn’t report it?

      Oh, that’s right, people like Varg will rationalize that, too.

  • metalhead616

    Breivik was kinda right?

    yeah Varg has serious problem.

    He has no friends. So he is ‘philosophying’ like all the poor lonesome bastards….

    How can anybody think that the deeds of breivik can be explained.
    He kills socialists, what even if they truly sucks is not even the way to fight socialism….
    well whatever… varg only knows one topic….. jews and christians….
    he has a narrowminded thinking. he isnt even near the truth….

    He had a computer in his cell but couldnt surf for the real shit….

  • d.o.g.o.b.g.y.n.

    I never supported Black Metal to begin with. Most Black Metal musicians are idiots. I’m not trying to make light of the horrible Norway tragedies, but come on did anyone NOT expect this guy to say something stupid.

    Reading an interview with almost any Black Metal vocalist and not expecting any stupid comments is like going to Taco Bell and not expecting to sit on the crapper!

  • hypocrisy

    does anyone else see the disconnect here? fools.

  • Chainsword

    Freedom of speech comes with the freedom to be ignored. I’m glad that Gary has spoken, and that his opinions are protected on this page. I have no misgivings about a free opinionated site choosing to not publicize any artist, and will continue as a reader. Thanks for your honesty.

  • meat mincing machine

    Never. Regardless of his politics and the fact he probably looks down on my dirty slav blood, he’s an excellent musician.

    • meat mincing machine

      Also if you seriously can’t seperate politics and music then that’s your own personal defect. Lots of people listen to Ted Nugent even though they’re not backwoods redneck ‘merika lovin hicks. Many others listen to rage against the machine even though they’re not dreadlocked potpourri sniffing hippie douchebags. And still more listen to Lady Gaga even though they’re not retarded.

  • http://www.facebook.com/7horns7eyes shiv

    Doesn’t slam hard enough

  • parasitesafari

    Justin Foley covered similar ground over a year ago on this very site:

    http://www.metalsucks.net/2010/04/26/the-austerity-programs-justin-foley-wonders-is-it-okay-to-listen-to-music-made-by-people-who-you-think-are-bad-folks/

    Just a little taste:

    “I guess this has its limits, though. Buying music made by people that you really think are evil means appreciating the music they make in an honest way. Seeing them live? Sure, probably. Buying a t-shirt? Well, you gotta draw the line somewhere and that’s about where I would start. It’s one thing to listen to the music for what it is. But you’re moving to the point of advocacy when you’re spending your money or broadcasting what they’re about beyond just that.”

    I’ve never been interested in Burzum or much of the other founding masters, either, precisely because I never bought into their politics. We all make choices.

  • Derrek

    I don’t agree with your personal opinion, should I stop visiting metalsucks?

    • bryno

      If you’re morally opposed, why not?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Corey-Mitchell/660352330 Corey Mitchell

      That’s your choice and your right. Welcome to freedom of expression. it works in almost every way imaginable.

  • Jason

    His old albums sound like shit. His new album sounds okay.

  • ghjkghjfj

    the more we talk about this douchewhistle the more power we give em. he, and all other attention seeking loser statement releasing nobodies are like freddy krueger. or like advertizing, according to the simpsons- if you stop paying attention to it, it eventually goes away. Lets make varg magically dissapear.

  • Yojimbo Slice

    You got it right about the Jews Varg. Behold the face of your conspiratorial conqueror!

    http://pulse2.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Gilbert_Gottfried-315×291.jpg

    As a Jew I can’t help but giggle at this retard (Varg, not Gil, although he makes me giggle too in different ways). Varg makes my typical suburban American life feel so mundane though, after hearing about how I should be secretly conspiring to turn the nations of the world against each other with my sheeny magic.

    or maybe… there’s something my Bubbie hasn’t been telling me. DUN DUN DUNNNN!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Corey-Mitchell/660352330 Corey Mitchell

      Points for you for lots of chuckles.

  • Jacob

    This is interesting. I don’t listen to Burzum, but it has little to do with Vikernes. Burzum is not a person, but a musical outlet. Vikernes is a person, who has murdered someone, burned churches, and opened up about unfounded racial prejudices. Separating the man from the music can be difficult, but it is possible. I happen to not like any Burzum music, and I happen to loathe Vikernes, but I think a sizeable portion of Burzum’s audience would like Burzum and still loathe Vikernes. But if someone whose religious convictions that prohibit homosexuality refuses to support Queen, I wonder if that action would be analogous.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Corey-Mitchell/660352330 Corey Mitchell

      Vikernes’ actions are choices he consciously made of his own volition. Freddie Mercury’s sexual orientation was not a choice.

      • Jacob

        Good point. It doesn’t seem analogous. But then, I know a lot of people who would say that sexual orientation is choice.

        My thought experiment is faulty.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Corey-Mitchell/660352330 Corey Mitchell

          Nah, you were on the right track. Just need to find a different analogy, as you stated.

          As for your friends’ opinions on sexual choices, I think they need to do more research. Drunken lesbian experimentation in college does not a gay woman make.

          Peace.

  • http://Theyk-W Theyk-W

    This example might seem obvious (indeed, I do not own or want to own anything related to this individual), however the question that rises is where do you draw the line? Slayer has got some extreme right winged (or rather nazi-related) songs as well, even though they distance themselves from this in real life (thus claiming artistic freedom). Tool has got a song called Die Eier von Satan (which warns for Nazism and related political views), while in certain pictures a member is shown with a swastika sign on his shirt (I cannot read it completely unfortunately to be certain about the message). Is this acceptable? tbh I don’t like Slayer so I don’t listen to them anyway, but I do listen to Tool from time to time, however I am completely against any extreme right winged message. Therefore, although I personally am completely disgusted by Burzum, I can imagine that someone might be able to look beyond the lyrical content (at least, I hope this is so for the people who listen to it).

    • troe

      “Die Eier von Satan” is actually a recipe for cookies spoken in German.

      THE MORE YOU KNOW

      • http://Theyk-W Theyk-W

        Indeed, but it is spoken in the way Hitler addressed his followers. It is meant to critize people who judge the music without knowing the content as well the people who supported Hitler without knowing what he actually stood for.

        • Daniel Guzmán

          He doesn’t talk about racism or anything right wing in his lyrics.

  • adace

    Sapien is dead-on. I’m Jewish too and Varg doesn’t know the first thing about us. I bet he never even met a single Jew in his whole life. He’s a disgrace to metal and his music is horrid. I listen to good black metal bands like Agalloch, Immortal, Enslaved, and Woods of Ypres and not to bands that sound like their music was recorded in a toilet.

    • Misanthrope

      Butthurt much?

    • Misanthrope

      Butthurt much?

  • Rocko

    If you’re feeling singled out, I can assure you there’s plenty of hate to go around for everyone in this world.

  • Kye

    You’re right. From now on, whenever I find out anyone has an opinion I don’t agree with, I’ll boycott anything they come near.

    Seriously though, I’m militantly against drug use and I’m not going to stop supporting this site or listening to…pretty much every musician ever, so why should I stop supporting Burzum just because Varg has opinions I don’t agree with?

    You don’t have to agree with what he says. You probably don’t even have to hear about it, it’s not like it’s that hard to avoid articles with Burzum in the title. But, you should get the fuck over it.

  • Nathaniel Mordain

    Am I the only one (I may well not be; haven’t read all the comments) who thinks it’s ironic that at the bottom of this article, there’s a bar where you can buy Burzum albums?

    I’m afraid I’m on the side of “it’s just music”. What I mean is, it’s fine to listen to his music, and buy his albums, but don’t justify him as a person.

    There was a similar argument to this in… 2009 I believe in the video game community, when the game “Shadow Complex” was released. The reason is that it was based on a book called “Ender’s Game” which was written by a self-confessed bigot, and he got some royalties from it. The problem was, it was a great game! So what do you do? Do you, rather futilely, boycott the game (which means you can never enjoy it)? Or do you just buy it?

    Personally, I just bought it. It’s not as if he’s actually going to stab a gay person – and even if he did, it’s not as if he’s going to use the money earned from the game to buy a helicopter to kill gays or something – he probably would have done it anyways. He’s just going to act like a tit till he dies, which is what he would have done even if the game had never existed.

    • Daniel Guzmán

      No you are not the only one, read the comments.

  • BeastMaster

    Morals are for fuckfaces. More people should be killed and more churches should be burned.

  • madne0

    Problem is, as shitty as Burzum has become (Filosofem and Hvis Lysett Tar Oss are fucking great), it’s still better then 2/3rds of the shit you promote on this website.

    So yeah, i’m going to keep listening and supporting Burzum, even though i think Varg’s ideas are idiotic. As i keep listening, and supporting, Gojira and Napalm Death, for example, even though i think their political views are pretty dumb as well.

  • Aether Jake

    There would maybe be an argument for him if his music didn’t suck, but lets be srs here; no one listens to burzum for any reason other than they enjoy controversy.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Evan-Clark/1822866049 Evan Clark

      Nope.

  • http://www.burzum.com/ Burzum.com Webmaster

    Varg Vikernes and his label team have tried to shut down Burzum.com for almost a decade.

    We archive old articles about Burzum without any “spin,” and they find this threatening.

    In our view, the only way to deal with controversial ideas is to study them without bias — in either direction.

    There are many who like Varg or Anders Behring Breivik are simply nationalists, who want their own lineage to survive and not be mixed into the rest like in the Americas. These should not be lumped together with Varg’s Judeo-centric attacks.

    In my view, his most interesting ideological period was right before jail, when he was a mystic — before the politics took over.

  • Huey

    Someone should send Varg some anthrax in the mail.

  • Totally Mangled

    Whatever. I’m not losing any sleep over Varg’s douchebaggery. Darkthrone is better anyway.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eirik-Kjs-Usterud/1067091137 Eirik Kjøs Usterud

    Whatever. Varg’s views are fucking ridiculous, they always have been. HE KILLED A GUY, and he’s been a racist all along. So how does this change anything?

    I do love his music, by the way. And not buying it won’t help – all money he earns goes to Euronymous’ family and the Norwegian state anyway.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Martin/100000643317593 Bob Martin

    Metalsucks, I’m a big fan but this is just immature. We’ve been dealing with his garbage for 15 years now, this is no surprise. I’m not going to stop buying his merchandise or records. Musician =! the Music they make.

  • Dez

    I don’t like the guy but I feel Varg has the right to say what he wants. :-/

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Aidan-Blackmetal-Smith/1244041753 Aidan Blackmetal Smith

    I don’t think you should judge someones art on their merits as a person. I know i’ve listened to plenty of metal bands that have had at LEAST one member commit a serious crime (such as murder), but i don’t find the music less appealing because someone in the band might be a bad person. Similarly, i’ve listened to a lot of the music that charles manson has made, and i’ve gotten weird looks and have been attacked for it (verbally) on some occasions. the fact is, I like the music, and no matter how many people might think charles manson was a bad dude (and I’m one of them) it doesn’t change the fact that i think the music he made is awesome. while i don’t like burzum or varg, i don’t think it’s fair to say that a band doesn’t deserve attention just because the musician/musicians may have skewed political/ethical/moral views. obviously this is partially what attracts some people to the music, but those people are fucking tools.

  • http://thenumberoftheblog.com Tr00 Nate

    Personally, I hate the Jews, so I have no problem with supporting Varg. Money well spent.

  • kornholio

    You write a normal post, you get 5 comments. You write a dumbass post, you get 100+ comments. That’s you Gary. You are worth more when you’re dumb.

  • http://www.theshiveringsands.tumblr.com The Shivering Sands

    I have listened to very little of Burzum because … Varg killed a person … ’nuff said.

    He is only one man, in a genre with so much amazing music done by people who are not murderers, I truly doubt that I am really missing out on anything special.

    And even if it is all that it is hyped up to be, the music itself is soiled for me, because I know that the person behind it killed a person, and is a disgusting pig.

  • Tom

    I’ve never bought a Burzum album, nor listened to one, alas I still struggle to find a reason why. I can provide contrary moral arguments to all his views, especially racism and his equivillently foolish philosophies, however I can not provide a sound moral argument against their existence, nor his right to express them. This does make me very uncomfortable, I should confess, and I hope in the future to find a sound reason to supress such views: objective morals. Until then, I can only sit back and hope that people like Vikernes wise up.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cory-John-William-Kamermans/505609811 Cory John William Kamermans

    i listen to what i want to listen to burzum has never come out with a song called “kill all blacks and jews” and until he does i’ll listen to his music most of his lyrical targets are christians and i have no problem with that. DO YOU GARY???

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kev-McCullar/737170239 Kev McCullar

    Interesting article, more interesting comments. So Gary, judging from your view on Varg, you must be thrilled that Seth Putnam from Anal Cunt is dead. I’m not saying his views were similiar to Varg’s, but Seth was anit-semetic and racist as well. Where’s the article bashing him?

    • KC

      Will never happen because for all this stupid views Seth never put himself into the spotlight the way Varg does. That’s really my only problem with the guy, is that he is an attention whore. I could give a fuck less about this views and ideologies. I’ve made it a habit to just not pay attention to stupid fucks (which brings up a paradox concerning my use of the internet). If you guys really want him to go away, then stop talking about him.

      That goes for Metalsucks too. You guys keep telling us he is a horrible human being and not to support him, yet you write articles about him all the time and even interviewed him once. All that does is give the guy more publicity and expose him to more people. If you ignore him, just like an annoying child, eventually when he stops getting attention he will go away.

      • http://www.coreymitchell.com Corey Mitchell

        I’ve made it a habit to just not pay attention to stupid fucks (which brings up a paradox concerning my use of the internet).

        Funniest line I’ve heard all year. Well played, sir or madam.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mjllnir-Loudermilk/1237301216 Mjöllnir Loudermilk

    article written from a guy with a phil spector avatar

  • Bruce

    Just because you listen to a band doesn’t mean you support their views. He is a terrific musician, and whoever disagrees with that is lying or doesn’t like black metal. His album’s are not only some of the best black albums ever made but some of the greatest in all of metal.

    Even Maniac (former singer for Mayhem) has admitted that even though Varg killed one of his best friends, he can’t deny that he can make damn good music.

    When I buy his albums it’s not like I’m giving him money to go kill a bunch of Jews (and I doubt that is what he is using the money for), I’m giving him money, because I want more of his music. How much importance you put into lyrics or the views of a musician is a personal choice. But I listen and buy his music because he is a talented musician.

    He has called himself ignorant and close-minded, he already knows who he is and is willing to admit it. Also he has the right to say what he thinks of people.

    And I know you already said this (kind of) in the article, but I’m sure we could all name a lot of metal bands who bash Christians in every single song (some of them serious, others not so much), should we stop supporting them too.

    You think metalheads should not be associated with him. I thought Metal was about being who you wanted to be and not caring what anybody else said and Varg is doing exactly that.

  • Herpleford

    You’re absolutely right. I do enjoy Burzum, but there really is no way around the fact that Vikernes is a horrible human being and even listening and enjoying his music is in a way supporting him. In some weird, moneyless way (if you pirate his music.)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tyson-Jennett/100002201299290 Tyson Jennett

    A question I have is in regards to where we would “draw the line” in cases like this.

    In the example of a band like Dissection, should I have stopped listening to them while they were still active because Jon Nodtveidt was accessory to the murder of a gay Algerian? Or is it still morally permissible for me to listen to them because this was only one member that committed the crime and not the others?

  • Chris

    if you dont like him dont listen to his music or support him, if you do then go for it. common sense 101 people. there didnt need to be a whole post whining about what someone should or shouldnt listen to. its all up to the individual.

    • Deatharm

      I enjoy Burzum. I buy Burzum (those albums which I like, anyways).

      His whole philosophy is against the second-handed nature of ideas, including assumptions taken from articles about a horse rather than hearing it from the horse’s mouth. I’ve read many of Varg’s writings (Vargsmal pending) and find much of what he has to say about pre-Judeo Christian culture refreshing–especially as an American suffocating in an invisible mental orthodoxy.

      Speaking of orthodoxy, isn’t the article writer just preaching conformity? And on an extreme metal site, no less.

      • Dirtman73

        Varg’s whole philosophy is based on “second-handed nature of ideas”. For fuck’s sake, he practices a religion that never had an established set of ideals and practices to begin with. Pagans make it all up as they go along by exploiting and embellishing shit they know absolutely nothing about.

        A razor for a goat, as the saying goes.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Max-Barnett/1293543162 Max Barnett

    I think that Gary felt that Sergeant D took all the attention away from him and wrote this comment factory of an article

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tom-Arquillo/100002159392127 Tom Arquillo

    Sorry i totally disagree with this article. I feel Varg has a right to his screwed up views. I disagree with him but whatever. I am not a Satanist, but i enjoy Marduk. I am not a christian but i enjoy Edens Curse. I am not a rascist nazi, but i enjoy Burzum.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robochrist-Feuerzauben/1328586275 Robochrist Feuerzauben

    this place is like the tmz of metal

  • Buriedandforgotten

    I’d rather shun the guy for being a convicted murderer than for his asinine beliefs. The “metal” world is full of people with retarded beliefs and stupid lifestyles. Misogynists, racists, drug & alcohol addicts, vile political beliefs, all-around obnoxious assholes; you name it. Burzum is a fringe band, easily ignored if one so chooses. Politically correctness and metal will never mesh, it’s the nature of the beast. If you look hard enough you can find something to hate about pretty much everyone.

    I mean speaking for myself, I’ve always found Phil Anselmo to be a total asswad, but I still enjoy some of his music. Likewise Danzig, Mustaine, Billy Milano, and so on.

  • Djurico

    Vargs an asshole. A talented asshole, but an asshole all the same. He’s put out some GREAT music (not as great as some people would lead you to believe), but because of his racism and the murder I will never buy anything he puts out. The endless fellation he gets on some parts of the internet make me laugh. Hvis is a great album but it is not the be all end all of metal. And he is by no means compareable to fucking Mozart.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Romanow/708036302 Richard Romanow

    Um well first of all this is coming from someone who gave a 5 star review to the Oceano album… So on could say that GS opinion on music is completely invalid and should be immediately disregarded.

    Second if you read Varg’s statement he does disapprove of the attacks in Norway and he reminds everyone that he hates Jews, didn’t we already know that? Why is everybody butt-hurt?

    Music is music, Varg IMO put out some of the best, and if i want to listen to it on vinyl then I’ll buy a copy, heck people still buy KFC even if they torture their chickens.

    • http://www.coreymitchell.com Corey Mitchell

      Vikernes doesn’t say he disapproves of Breveik’s bombing and massacre that killed at least 76 people, but rather that Breveik was possibly a tool used by Jewish people and also that a true nationalist doesn’t kill children. Of course, his inclusion of the parenthetical “yet” could easily be interpreted to mean that the execution of adults opposed to his (or Breveik’s) beliefs would have been entirely acceptable.

  • http://www.flickr.com/francoiscarlduguay Dreadlash

    hahaha those Charlie Sheen dubstep remixes are fucking dope man!

  • phishcage

    Never been a fan of Burzum, (but I do enjoy Filosofem) but Black Metal does tackle the provocative subjects and being anti Jew is one of them, it just the mainstreaming of this extreme metal subgenre that such views are now considered offensive by internet metalheads when it is really how it is in the first place during the early 90s

    if you don’t like it then just listen to your glam rock and post-metal, and just ignore the guy, but jeez stop WHINING about not supporting Varg in a metal forum when you have a link to his CDS… it is embarrassing, it is stupid and it shows a lack of creditbilty.

  • Misanthrope

    Dood, that’s like not listening to The Beatles because Paul and John did acid.

  • Brah

    but…. I don’t listen to Burzum because they suck.

  • Blut

    Ezra Pound was a Nazi sympathizer and a traitor and somehow the vast majority of the academic community still consider him a stellar poet worthy of contemplation. Varg might be a murderer (still mostly self-defense in my opinion, and Euronymous was not much less of a dick than Varg himself), a racist, and a bigot, but the fact is that he has produced music that is largely devoid of those elements and should be considered on its own merits. Besides, last I recall all the royalties from his album sales go to Euronymous’s family and the Norwegian government, so its not like you’re funding some far-right terrorfront or something.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tom-Arquillo/100002159392127 Tom Arquillo

      Well said.

    • Blut

      As for where I “draw the line,” I’d say that any music that explicitly and clearly advocates for racist/fascist ideologies in a violent manner (ex. RAC/white power punk bands, Aryan Terrorism, etc) in their lyrics and/or imagery I stay away from. Bands whose members may hold racist views but who mostly just write about folklore, nature and/or satanism in their music I have little problem listening to. I do get slightly uncomfortable listening to certain songs from bands that I normally like though, like “The Call of the Aryan Spirit” by Nokturnal Mortum, due to the presence of ns pseudointellectualism.

  • Joe LaForm

    I’ve read his “statement” on the attacks on Norway. Nowhere in it does he agree with what the terrorist pussy did. He does have some agreements with politics, but that’s where it ended. We have people here in this country who agree politically with the Norwegian terrorist; Glenn Beck, Ted Nugent, Sean Hannity, etc. The difference between Varg and our “mainstream” hate mongers is that Varg is very open, while the others hold back. Not saying I agree with him at all, I enjoy his music, that’s it, I’m as far left as they come. But if you put it into context, Varg Vikernes is a lot LESS dangerous than our own right wing extremists on tv and radio. They skip around to let the viewers decide, leading them on to believe they are not as hateful as they really are, attracting giant audiences and gaining corporate sponsors which in a way totally gives them credibility. And with Varg, he puts it out there, most don’t take him seriously because he is fucking nuts.

  • sjhelmet

    90% of metal is anti-something. 75% is anti-christian. 25% is Satanic. Being against something is the foundation of the genre and its “extreme” nature.

    I’m in the camp that doesn’t pay him any attention because he murdered someone.

  • jared

    Thats bullshit. Like it or not and despite what Varg himself says. He is a real example of metal ideology. Unlike those stupid kids in the USA who think their Satanists or vampires or whatever and kill their girlfriends parents and then bend over to the media and denounce all that and say “i love god, i’m so sorry for what i did blag blah cause i got caught” Varg did what he did, never apologized, never twisted it, did his time and kept living and stuck to his personal guns, I’m a proud metalhead and proud hater of christianity. I agree with a lot of things he says. other times yea hes ignorant and racist which i cant agree with. BUT if i want anyone to respect my opinion i can respect theirs I’ve read similar comments from Varg so at least hes honest about who he is. i know i wouldnt be friends with him but i respect him for standing up for his personal beliefs and for whats important to him which is his sense of truth and culture, might make him a racist but thats his life. all that aside I love burzum i remember being the only dude in my school who wore metal shirts let alone a burzum shirt. and i do separate him from the music, the music is not racist it stands on its own and is excellent.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Ziegler/1650217583 David Ziegler

    frankly I dont give a shit about his beliefs. I will not judge a musician, nor person by what they believe in. regardless of how crazy his beliefs are. I like his music. I think it’s creative. His new album is great. You people can hate what I say all you want. But It’s my opinion. no one is changing it.

  • Randy

    Heres a good question:

    Since when has been being a racist been the worst crime a man can commit?

    The mans a murderer and arsonist, but god forbid he blames the attacks in Norway on the Jews and NEWSFLASH we cant listen to his music.

    Varg has some sick repulsive and vile opinions. But thats what they are, OPINIONS. He has the right to say whatever he wants and he also has the right to publish it. We, as the audience, have the right not to read it and completely disregard it. Why, because its BULLSHIT.

    You know what? I LOVE Burzum. Black metal is the music that defined my high school years and has made a deep impact on my life. It reflected the inner turmoil and darkness all adolescents experience but for me it spoke to my soul. Burzum was definatly in the forfront.

    Did Varg do some fucked up things. Yeah. Does he say some fucked up things? You have to be a complete moron to deny that. But get a grip. The man sucks but his music is amazing. Let him have his own opinions and if you dont like them deal with it.

    “I may not like what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”

    Voltaire said that. Let this man say what he wants, not matter how vile it is. His music rocks, deal with his opinions. Lets grow up people.

    • Randy

      Oh and why do we only care about what he says when he talks shit about Jews? What about the COUNTLESS times Varg and his associates have talked shit about Muslims, foreigners and the Great Satan of Christianity?

      Please guys we should unit against ALL intolerance not just that directed at the groups we belong to or have a special connection to. Nobody gets special treatment. If we should stop listening to Varg because he talks shit about Jews, then we should stop listening to Glen Benton because he talks shit about Christians.

  • KickMyJunk

    Varg always was and always will be a comlpete idiot and a talentless hack. Burzum is proof that metalheads are just as gullible and stupid as everyone else and will support a musician based on image and misdeeds instead of musical talent.

    • Blut

      No, Varg’s music is good and you’re just making stereotypical assumptions about metalheads. Now gfto

      • KickMyJunk

        Nah, I’m not. It’s a very valid general statement that metalheads are just as dumb as any other subculture. Take a look at all the comments on here defending one of the worst metal musicians in all of history. No one ever would have cared about him or Burzum had he not burned down churches and murdered another musician. The former I’m indifferent too but the latter warrants ostracizing and is far worse than his anti-semitism or vandalism.

        • Blut

          Speaking for myself, I wouldn’t give a shit about yet another white supremist murderer/arsonist if he didn’t also make great music. Most people defend this guy because they feel that his music is overlooked due to his actions, whether in a positive or a negative light. Of course you do get the occasional white supremist, but they don’t really come around metalsucks much.

  • Dude

    How come less than 10 people mention that he is a murderer? And Metalsucks interviewed him even though he is a murderer!

    Seriously, Metalsucks has become just like every other media outlet in America: telling us what’s right and wrong, who to vote for, what to buy, who and who not to listen to.

    Seriously, you guys need to take a step back and look at yourselves before you start telling us what to do. I mean, just by interviewing him you are endorsing him. Sometimes you guys can be truly hypocritical.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kasey-Williams/1613231866 Kasey Williams

    fuck vARG ANd burzum is brutally weak music!
    props to GS

  • grossj

    “Stop supporting Varg, he’s a bad guy! However, we will continue to spread the word about him (and his message) as long as it gets us hits!!”

  • the pair

    if it makes you feel better i pirated every album i ever owned and then deleted them because they were garbage with production that sounded like he used analog telephones instead of microphones. he phoned it in in every sense. i find it odd that anyone would like his music even if he was the saint of cuddles and puppies…his one claim to fame is a knife in a guy’s skull. fuck him.

  • G

    I think we should stop supporting metalsucks! Since when was Metal regarded as being safe? Metal is a genre, the only genre, that has always been recognized for it’s extreme ideals, pushing boundaries, and adhering to the truth behind absolute freedom! I’m disappointed that a “metal” site would tell its readers to stop supporting an artist just because “they” dont support those ideals. If those at metalsucks want to hold hands and sing ‘Ring Around the Rosies’ go ahead, but quit calling yourself a metal site! You have showed your true POSING colors…

    Benedictions

    • Johnny

      how fucking dumb is this comment lol

      • Driven9

        really dumb.

  • ishtak

    dotn know why someone would bring up “hipster black metal” and mention agalloch as it is some kind of defference against nsbm. the drummer aesop dekker is into a shitload of nsbm and makes no apologies for it. dont be a cry baby and be smart enough to discern music from ideology .

  • Jesus

    Varg flip.

  • Rusty McThulhu

    Burzum really sucks, we don’t need to even get into his personal beliefs to know better than to support that man.

  • Matthijs

    Varg is ten times smarter than any of you could ever dream of being.
    He is a legend and the father of Black Metal while you are nothing, cheers
    go buy some shares in Goldman Sachs and F.O.A.D!!!!!

  • B-RAD IS RAD

    i never understood the hate for Jews. Every Jewish fellow I had known was good people. Its religion in a whole thats the problem for me. Its just what certain folks do with that mind set of religion in every day life that makes them good or bad. Like a “Christinan” protesting a dead Marines funeral, or one that killed over 90 children, kids who have no idea or understanding what the dude was so upset about.

    Religion in itself can be, and is at times, very poisonous.

  • Anthony

    I don’t let Varg’s political views affect the way I feel about his music. It’s the shitty music he makes that affects the way I feel about his music.

  • amelia

    And thought metal was supposed to be one of those no b genres where the music matters most.
    The music, as others have mentioned, is largely apolitical, so really, that is all that should matter.
    And besides, liking/buying his music does not mean you sympathize with his views, which are not in his music (for the most part). It makes as much sense as saying that liking Cannibal Corpse means you support actually carrying out all of the things described in the band’s lyrics.

    This article is so fucking ridiculous in so many ways.

  • Red

    Since when is it unacceptable for a metal artist to be intolerant and prejudice towards Jews, but its completely fine to say the most horrific and honestly bigoted things towards Christians?

    With all my years listening to metal, I’ve heard and seen things that if it was directed towards any other group it would be considered hate speech. How is Varg saying that the Jews cause all the problems in the world or the Holocaust never happen any less offense than Gaahl saying all Christians should be eradicated from the earth or Glenn Benton branding an inverted cross into his forehead?

    If you’re gonna boycott Varg and Burzum for anti-Semitism, you shouldn’t sit back and watch other artists say the same offense things towards other groups. There shouldn’t be a double standard.

    • Blut

      Well, to be honest, neither Gaahl nor Benton ever murdered anyone (though Gaahl came pretty damn close).

    • B-RAD IS RAD

      because this site is ran by jews? j/k.

      good point. theres plenty of hate towards christianity in metal, but its always acceptable. maybe its just “more metal” to hate on jesus?

    • amelia

      Perhaps because, in general, being Jewish implies you are of a certain blood (though some people of other bloods do convert to Judaism) and being of a blood isn’t something you can help (remember, even born Jews who converted to Christianity were killed in the Holocaust). However, Christianity isn’t the religion of a certain racial group and is something you can change if you want.

      Not defending religious hatred, but this could explain where some of the acceptance towards hatred of Christianity stemmed from in the minds of some.

    • Anthony

      I agree, though I think that mindset is influenced by society in general. Attacking Christianity is fair game but say anything bad about Jews or Muslims and you’re in trouble.

      • Red

        Lets not forget Varg burned down at least 3-4 churches, and if he did that to lets say a synagouge it would be immediatly labeled a hate crime. There’d be a worldwide outcry, and probably most moderate metalheads would abandon Burzum because they’d see him as nothing less than a Nazi. If he burned down a mosque he would be dead within weeks.

        But no, he burned down a church, an act that isn’t considered a hate crime by the overwhelming majority of metalheads, but (by some of the more extreme parties in black metal at least) as “cool” or “nescisary”.

        I sense a LOT of hypocrisy here within the metal community, that if a guy has a completely anti-Semetic yet illogical (and frankly hilarious) opinion the only response is a complete boycott of his music. But then the same man went ahead and burned down a church, a hate crime in every sense of the word, and no one does anything, he probably even got more fans.

        • grossj

          lol at your attempt to spell “necessary”

  • Thegreatadrianing

    I don’t dig burzum. But I could care less if someone else listens to him. Its their choice. Its like not listening rap because they talk about killing cops. I’m not pro cop killing but ill still listen to it if it tickles my fancy.
    You don’t have to love the man. Just the music.
    Art from a psychopath is just as interesting if not more as someone you can dig ethically.

  • http://satanicpowerpop.tumblr.com Isaac

    His music is, at best, decent. I wouldn’t pay for it.
    That said, quit whining. Despite the fact that it’s clear Vikernes is retarded, morality ain’t objective.
    Also, I mean, come on, Jews.

  • Himmlers Ghost

    Butt hurt heebs that run this site don’t like him because he speaks the truth about their insidious race of leeches.

  • Johnny

    Gary, never really been a big fan of your columns as I can’t really agree with some of your musical tastes, but holy shit did you hit the nail on the head with this one. Fuck this guy, I don’t get why people support him either. His music sucks too.

  • Bierko

    Cosmo has always been softball about these topics on Invisible Oranges, which is especially retarded considering all of Varg’s works come from his pronounced racist ideology.

    Second, it just plays into europe’s hope to suppress the existence of legitimate nazi parties in most major countries from the outside world. How many of you were shocked to find out in the articles that we don’t only have skins here, but most countries have powerful nazi parties in europe?

  • Jacob Maxey

    I will always support Vikernes and his music. You are fools to disregard his influence on Black Metal and pretending he did not happen and that he is no longer relevant just proves that you are fools. I don’t support everything he believes, I have nothing against Jews, in fact my cousins are Jewish, and I don’t believe in the Atlantis theory, but he makes, and always had made, fantastic music that is very relevant to any who consider themselves of Black Metal. I will always support Vikernes. Trying to make him the scapegoat in this horrible tragedy will do nothing.

  • Jacob Maxey

    I might also add that some of your facts are wrong. He did not serve 21 years. How about you at least get your facts right before criticizing the man who made Black Metal what it is. I will always support Varg Vikernes. Not all of his ideals, but him and his music. And by the way, nowhere in his music has Vikernes ever addressed anything even remotely political. You people accuse him because he follows a code set forth by his ancestors, I see that as something to respect someone for. I have nothing against Jews (my cousins are Jewish) and I do not support National Socialism (neither does Varg by the way) but I love Burzum and I will always respect who Mr. Vikernes is.

  • Anthony

    Anti semitic is about a race and technically hes not rascist . He hates judeo christian relegion. Who the fuck cares if he hates on people for their beliefs, you hate on ppl for their taste in music all the same to me . Religion is as stupid and made up as fucking harry potter

  • Baron

    Varg is a fucking moron.

  • PCC

    Soooo… let’s all support Lady Gaga instead… at least she doesn’t hates Jews!
    “Good point” mr.Suarez…

    I am almost convinced that this article itself is a “false flag” operation! Genius!

  • lolipops

    wait, metal is often controversial? no fucking way…..

  • Real Black Metalhead

    I cant even entertain the idea of listening to any Burzum records, I get the idea of seperating the man from the music and I apply this to a lot of other genres and situations like when “x perrson says they hate x artist’s music and wishes they would come to a unpleasent end, generally I say well I’ve read a few interviews and seen them on t.v and they seem kind of cool so while i dont like their music I dont wish them any ill will”. However when the man is such a racist douche it renders that pretty much impossible.

    I think a lot of people can overlook Varg’s shit simply because they dont fall into one of the groups that he has directed his vitriol at. Its so easy to say well this doesn’t apply to me so I’ll just ignore it and just treat it as art. Being black and reading him describe me as subhuman I just dont have it in me to seperate the music from the man.

    This being said I do think that his antisemetic rants are pretty beign (i’m not jewish so I cant really state this as fact just opinion). It just seems to me when an aging wing nut starts laying into the jews as if they are some kind of massive shadow government (which I’m sure must be flattering on some level) its just the ramblings of defeated old coot getting his last few jabs in before people completely stop paying attention to him. They only problem is people still are giving him attention so it just going to carry on.

    • Blut

      Very good point, his ignorance definitely hits closer to home for you. Then again, the owners of this site are jewish and seem to have had no problem hosting interviews done with him in the past.

  • Richard

    Gary, does the quality of your research reflect the time you spent thinking this piece through? Vikernes did not serve 21 years in prison, but 16. A simple visit to the Wikipedia(!) page on Varg will tell you that…

  • T.J.

    There is and always will be this weird correlation between “the Man and his music” for any music genre, while I don’t think it’s fully right to separate the two I also don’t think it’s really the right way to completely bleed the two together as well. take an extreme example if you will (I by no means am saying anyone involved in this conversation is as important as this example, but I wanted to use someone everyone would know.): George Washington owned slaves. Is that deservedly appalling? yes, absolutely, does it discredit the good the man has done? I don’t think so, tarnished perhaps yes, but the elements by themselves stand true. I enjoy Burzum, but not varg, is that something I can do as long as I am conscious of it and not naive to the truth of it? I think sometimes it takes a level of crazy to make good music as well, look at Metallica after they cleaned up, pure garbage. I think I’ve heard that Devin Townsend has bi-polar. And I think it was put well when someone said that they listen to what they do because it challenges them. I understand the ethical question raised is about supporting him, but I think we can only support the music, people only talk so much when others listen, I only listen to his music, and if everyone else only listened to his music, that’s all we’d have of him. I guess all in all I agree with the idea that we shouldn’t support these people who are a problem but it raises strange questions about who we censor from ourselves and what we can learn about who we are by being aware of the existence of such ideas appalling and misinformed as they are.

  • Josh

    It’s always an individual choise whether an artist’s political/whatever opinions can be separated from his musicial output. My view is that, yes, it can.

    Some great music has been written by people whose opinions and general worldview I detest, but I believe that my ideals are strong and independent enough not to allow me running the risk of getting “infected” by what I listen to. In Burzum’s case, the lyrics don’t reek of propaganda, but are pretty abstract, invoking some kind of olden vibe through mythology.

    It’s this an overlooked aspect of the download issue? Despite me being liberal/leftist in my views, I find the music of some NSBM bands spine-chillingly good. However, I wouldn’t *buy* their releases, as that would feel like contributing to something I’d never support.

    Also, there’s a huge grey area here. Those of us who have been around for a while know that most of the Norweigan BM bands made overtly racist statments back in the day. Would you boycott Dimmu Borgir for the statement made in 1995 saying that they’d “[...] gladly cut the throat of every black person in the world” and ends with hailing the arian (sic) race? http://hatpastorn.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/dimmu-borgir-darkness-zine-1995.jpg

  • Martin

    I’ve heard Varg is just a marionette for the almighty conspiracy of the international jewry, Mel Gibson and Aquaman!

  • Matthijs

    It is a fact that the major brokerage firms that are screwing the world are run by Jews. Kissinger’s murderous foreign policy decisions are a fact and he is considered by most sane people to be a war criminal. It is a fact the “Israelis” that have little to do with the original Israelites treat the Palestinians like the Nazi’s treated them. This does not mean that all Jews are bad but these facts have to be examined, none of this has anything to do with Burzum. Burzum is great, nothing you can do or Varg can say will take away from that. Shalom to all non-Zionist awesome Jews listen to Burzum.

  • Sharp Harp

    Author can’t prove that Jews didn’t do it, therefore argument is invalid.

  • Anthony

    He does not think any race is subhuman and if anyone thinks he has a low iq you have obviously listened to to much sergeant d

  • Ernst

    Rather hypocritical. We already knew what Varg was standing for. Why suddenly now? If you couldn’t deal with it you shouldn’t have listened to his stuff in the first place.

  • Richard

    Hahaha, being disgusted at a black metal musician’s viewpoints?

    People obviously don’t understand black metal.

    Also:

    “Oh, and by the way; true nationalists don’t kill children of their own nation, even if someone tries to brainwash them, like AUF did. They were not (yet) Marxist extremists; they were just children.”

    Just because he’s a conspiracy nut, doesn’t mean he condoned the attack.

  • Rick Javic

    Burzum fucking sucks. Who the fuck listens to this shit anyway???

    Whether Varg is right or wrong and whether his bat-shit loony, ranting and rambling anti-semitic diatribes have any real social or cultural value is kind of a moot point, because Burzum fucking sucks. If people would stop listening to shit music none of this would be an issue.

    That is all.

    • Richard

      Well, being one of the most popular black metal bands out there, i’d say quite a few people, because y’now, they’re fucking class.

  • Fritz!

    If you absolutley have to listen to the music of rasist mad men, why don´t you listen to Wagner? At least he rocked! Even if his merch doesn´t do much for your mystic vberkwlt image.

  • bernd

    Burzum sucks so much ass.

    this

  • Noisemeadow

    Why the hell would any of this make me not want to listen to Burzum anymore? The murder and arsons didn’t do it. A little racism sure as hell won’t either.

  • Eloli

    Completely agree, Gary. Never supported that racist asshole, never will.

  • Spoondizzle

    In his autobiography Ice-T said that during the Cop Killer hysteria Ice-T the biggest mistake his critics made was giving him power. At the height of it he could make a phone call and have all three major networks cover his thoughts.

    Burzum doesn’t sell enough albums for anyone to give a shit about and, honestly, Varg is only famous because he’s a waste of life. Had he not killed anyone hipster journalist wouldn’t be on his dick and the vast majority of people, even in people in metal, wouldn’t be exposed to his ridiculous views. As someone who ticks of multiple, multiple boxes on his hate list (Black, Liberal, Christian, American. I’m sure there’s more) yeah, ignore him, he’s not worth the time it took to write this response and any Burzum I’ve been unfortunate enough to hear has been horrible, an occasional half decent idea in a string of poorly executed crap.

  • dhs

    If you aren’t Scandinavian you’ll NEVER understand.. So shut the fuck up!!

  • MooseMan

    Honestly, I never even knew about his (apparently overt) ignorant views of humanity in general, and more specifically, everyone that is not Vikernes.

    Why was I unaware? Because his music sounds like a sun-dried dog turd & after hearing it, I rarely ever gave the guy a second thought. Now that I know his views, I wont give what’s his name a crap-shred of my brain energy.

    Wait, who were we talking about again?

  • sonas76

    As a visual artist, I find that I have to support Varg having freedom to express his beliefs. That’s because I certainly wouldn’t want to be censored myself.

    Does that mean I have to support his beliefs? Absolutely not. I also don’t have to give him any of my cash, the same way I have never given any money to the Westboro Baptist church or bought any of Glenn Beck’s books (I believe Stephen Colbert is completely correct when he said that Glenn has ‘Nazi Tourette’s', BTW).

    As for all the odd statements by other commenters about Jews secretly running the world, I have a question:

    How can I get in on this? I am part Jewish, and could certainly use some cash so that I could drop my ‘Joe Job’ and devote my life solely to art. Do I need to file paperwork somewhere? Do I need to know a secret handshake/code word? If regular meetings are held at some clandestine location, will my parking be validated?

    • Spoondizzle

      I should not attempt to multitask while writing a reply. I will be flayed alive by the internet typo nazis…

      • sonas76

        Don’t hold out on me! Tell me where to pick up my cash! Be a dude!

  • MooseMan

    @ Fritz – the Wagner comment was hilarious…I wonder if I could get a job running the Wagner merch stand.

    @ dhs – I’m sure lots of Scandinavians would agree with the fact that Burzum and, more specifically, Vikernes are made of poop.

    @ Noisemeadow – I would think that, even if the murders, the arson & the racism never existed, Burzum would still not be worth listening to…I would rather throw sun-dried dog poo in a blender and listen to that…it would be so kvlt .45

    @ the “Why get mad at Vikernes’ views, when ‘this’ is the whole point of black metal?” crowd. Get a life. By jumping on the black metal ‘mission statement’ bandwagon, you have become part of the cycle of self-defeat that was inevitable with black metal. Because of the hypocritical nature of humanity, black metal & it’s “original purpose” whatever that is, has imploded on itself, and become another redundant ideolgy of the very type of elitist arseholes that black metal supposedly opposes.

    • Blut

      ^ Your last comment is easily one of the most elitist, redundant things I’ve seen in a while.

      • MooseMan

        I never claimed not to fall in the ‘hyocritical arsehole’ category. Calling someone an elitist, by nature, puts you (generally speaking) in a place of judgment…by default making you an elitist hypocrite. I’m guilty of it, and so is everyone else in the world. Welcome to the club. Kvlt .45 cans are in the fridge, grab me one while you’re there.

      • MooseMan

        Also, I was simply pointing out that, with humanity, it’s inevitable to watch our shortsighted goals cave in on themselves in the long run…black metal is just one example…the redundancy was completely intentional. Completely intentional the redundancy was . The intentional redundancy was complete.

        • Jewcifer

          Your moms are redundant elitists.

  • http://metalshock.wordpress.com Ciccio

    I really REALLY don’t understand the point of this article.

    Glad to live in Europe, where we just don’t have all this politically correct paranoias, probably it’s because we have centuries and centuries of history and art so we know well how to separate the man from the artist.

    I consider mr. Vikernes a psycho that should have been jailed for life and his statements are utter bullshit but I always loved his music. So what? Caravaggio was a perverted drunk weirdo, probably an assassin, but also one of the best painters in history.

  • cocksucker

    So many butthurt jews in 1 thread. Holy shit, man.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Hoefer/25511007 David Hoefer

    Richard Christy was on the Howard Stern Show. That’s always bugged me a little.

  • http://priapusgrind.bandcamp.com jeremy

    I haven’t read through all the comments, so apologies if this point has already been made, but journalists like writing about Varg for the same reason people like reading about him: its weird, disturbing, and interesting material, much moreso than the next Exodus album or whatever.

    For bloggers, there’s also the financial element – I’m not sure what the most commented on MetalSucks post is, but this one is nearing 300. These numbers are used to determine cost for advertisers. Plus, MetalSucks gets a percentage of the revenue generated from clicks on these ads (IE, the contextual ads about Burzum below this post). It’s the same reason Sergeant D writes here – controversial shit is fun for readers and good for website owners.

    That said, I completely agree with this article. But when Varg spouts off with some nutbag shit, everyone wins.

  • Big Jesu Trash Can

    Burzum is the metal equivalent of PBR. It’s one of those things that sucks and no one really likes it, but they’re convinced being into gives them some sort of street cred. In other words, it’s an image over taste sort of deal.

    • Not the biggest Burzum fan

      Agree… except its not just Burzum but any black metal band. The whole genre is approached with ironic acclaim now.

  • Trux

    I dont support Burzum not for his ideology or his political points of view or because he killed someone nor even because he is a racist….

    I dont support him for just one simple reason that is the one that matters the most : HIS MUSIC SUCKS !

    End of story.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Will-Morley/618112437 Will Morley

    There will always be a debate for or against Burzum along these lines, and while ever you validate Vikerness’ right-wing ideologies by getting mad at them/repeating them/analysing them, he is going to profit from it more and more.

    I don’t have a problem separating the person from the music. Furthermore, I’m not ashamed to admit that I like the music. Burzum have released some incredible albums. The last two albums released under the banner were still fucking good. I own Burzum albums. I own Burzum t-shirts. And I don’t care because I am comfortable with my stance regarding his politics. If that makes someone else uncomfortable then that’s their problem.

    In listening to his music, people aren’t glorifying his ideology. His right-wing views barely even make it into the music, particularly not in any overt way. But by acknowledging his ranting about things like the Norwegian massacre, you are giving him a forum to publicly air his political/social/racial opinions. Think about it, Vikerness is going to put out one album per year, at the most. He doesn’t tour. If you only covered his music, which would make sense, then how much press is he really getting? A few album reviews, a few interviews regarding said albums. However if you constantly allow yourselves to get riled up just because of shit that the guy says, you’re giving him a constant stream of media attention.

  • drowningincorn

    I can’t ever seem to grasp why people get so butt hurt over Varg not liking them. My wife is Korean. We both love Burzum. Why? Because the music is brilliant. The same reason why Varg is a racist is real life, that stubborn myopic craziness, is the same reason his art is so unique and powerful.

    Varg may be a racist in real life, but as an artist, that aspect of him never creeps in. There are never racist themes expressed in his music. That’s not the point of the art so I don’t have any problems getting into it. On the other hand, I can’t listen to say Arghoslent even though many think they are musically brilliant. They won’t allow you for a second to stop thinking about their racism. I can’t remove the theme of the art from the art.

    Varg gets flak for being open and honest about his attitudes. At least he’s honest. Maybe it’s because I’ve grown up and spent my life around musicians this doesn’t bother me. The majority of musicians metal or otherwise are horrible flakes, cheaters, abusers, thieves, and scum of every sort. They usually just don’t allow you to know about it.

    Hate teh guy personally, that’s fine. If you’re judging art by the artist though, the more you get to know people, the more you’re going to realize you no longer like anything you own.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Luciano-Avendano/1022646620 Luciano Avendano

    This makes me laugh. The same site that promotes iwrestledabearonce, Suicide silence and born of osiris chooses to bash varg and ask us to boycott all things burzum (despite giving him more publicity) Also ironically im sure when the next burzum album comes out they will be quick to feature it in a review.

    I for once love varg both as a musician and a person. Sure he may spout some contraversial nonsense every so often but does he give a shit what you think? No and thats what gets you all so butt hurt. If he wanted to take other peoples opinions into account about his music or political ideologies he wouldnt be the only member of an amazing music project or choose to separate himself from society by living out on his farm.

    Get over it.

    • Nordic

      +1

  • Frampler

    I remember reading lots about Varg in the 90s and thinking that he seemed like a demented cartoon character, the guy who took the whole black metal thing a little too far and ended up with blood on his hands. That anyone would take the prick seriously truly baffles me. Nevertheless, the idea that we should ignore someone’s artistic output because of their views or even actions doesn’t wash with me. Where I would draw the line is in wearing merchandise of a band with views diametrically opposed to my own, as that is more likely to be interpreted as a tacit endorsement of those views.

  • busboyblues

    LOL at indignation by guy with Nightstalker avatar.

  • Marchosias

    Obviously, this man is an idiot. Can he write good music? I wouldn’t know because I never liked Mayhem, so the motivation to listen to Burzum has never been strong, or even close to it. Reading and hearing about shit like this has made that motivation even weaker. But writing music is one thing, going on and on about Jews, blacks, etc. is like pissing in the wind and more importantly, short-sighted in a very juvenile way.
    If Varg and his supporters took over Africa, after a few generations, their spawn would adapt to the climate and have darker skin. If they wised up and realized “Hey, these people will exist wether we like it or not” and took the time to understand some of the ancient Jewish writings, they might find out how to become better, more tolerant people, and even (this is a stretch) realize that the Jews as a people are much more enduring than their oppressors as the oppressors have changed many times over the centuries, while the religious philosophy, bloodlines, and heritage have all survived.
    Unfortunately, however, some people are so closed minded that they just stick with something as pointless and tragic as persecuting all those who aren’t the same as they are. I learned a long time ago that every race, gender, creed, etc. has their own behaviors that can get on the nerves of others, but that there really is nothing worth condemning an entire group of people over, from minor annoyances stereotypical of a people to the acts committed by misguided groups.
    One thing that old Varg forgets to mention in his pointless bellowing is that he belongs to the most offensive, most oppressive race of all, the same as I do – Whites. Once the majority, so many whites (regardless of religion or affiliation) are scared that themselves or their descendants will be slaves in time, and they don’t realize that they have all this time to improve the world around them, and instead, they’re just bringing it all down around themselves (as Varg claims to be the intentions of the Masons).
    I’ll always believe in one thing and one thing only – that being a human being is about making the world a good place for everyone. There will always be unsavory folk around, and if they won’t work towards the greater good, then it is better to know the threat that may be presented and make the best of it, defending against bigotry when necessary, never forcing those views on any who would be unwilling to hear them. It’s a struggle whose end may never be realized in this lifetime, but that’s life.
    Regardless, if the guy writes good music, someone else can listen to it, because after reading that, I just am not even curious anymore.

  • Michael Effertz

    I wanted to comment on all the people that have argued against buying Burzum albums on the grounds that such purchases (in)directly fund and endorse Varg’s ideological views. This is a lazy argument. Paying for a Burzum album does put money in Varg’s pocket, but you can’t then take a leap and say, therefore, that money supports his ideological stances. Your purchase reimburses him as a musician for making a musical product.

    Saying “don’t buy his records because he’s racist,” is essentially the same thing as saying, “Varg shouldn’t make money for anything because he’s racist.” If he wants to flip burgers for a living, your argument obliges you to accuse Burger King of thereby funding anti-Semitism. Poor argument.

    If you like his music, buy it. If you don’t like his views, disagree with them. Done.

  • HaHaHalocaust

    Metal community in not your personal army. Think im going to buy all Burzum material as double copies just to piss off all liberal, PC metallers to utter maximus.

  • http://giantofthemountain.bandcamp.com Lordassenfroth

    we’ve known varg was a racist murderer for years now, if you wanted to stop supporting him you should of done it years ago. why is this suddenly a thing?

  • Jason Craig

    Never heard this guy’s music. Hearing Popeye vomit over shitty, too-fast drums and guitars that sound like they’re plugged into an old shitty stereo pretty much killed black metal for me…

  • CreptorStauts

    Well, his music sucks dick so I would never listen to it anyway.

  • jadedkid

    Lets make a deal. This site stops covering ASP and Periphery. I stop liking Burzum.

  • Killdozer666

    i like this dude, it seems very closed-minded not to

  • totescolin

    Love him or hate him at least the guy lives what he writes about, plus writing an article about not writing articles about someone is a bit silly, almost as like a metal forum with an Add for the new 311 song on it.

  • Burzum Fan

    I like how this moron tells me not to visit his website.. yet provides a link directly to it.
    This is the caliber of pseudo-journalism we’re presented with here.. YAWN

  • Metalguy

    The fact that you people stopped listening over this really shows how much you care about your music

  • hatersgonahate

    if it didn’t exist how would you know you didn’t like it?

    how would you feel if someone wrote an article that we shouldn’t listen to any metal at all oh wait…..

    valid critique of the art is one thing, you can disagree with anything but as soon as we start censoring – it opens the floodgates for NOTHING being ok. Just cause you don’t like swastika’s doesn’t mean someone else can’t enjoy that. So we ban swastikas and then pentagrams are next.,,.then circles…until noone can have anything because it all offends someone.

    Neil Gaiman (har har) wrote a great article defending another writer who was labelled as Pedophile literature. read it he makes good points.

    ps- by calling for a ban on something you increase its popularity…look at what happened to asshats trying to get rid of metal. i didnt know who this guy or this band was until you wrote this article. totally checking it out.

  • Ryan

    When Varg Vikernes created the music of Burzum, it was his. When he released it, it ceased to be his alone. When I consume the music of Burzum, it’s mine. Not Varg Vikernes’. I did pay for it. I paid for the experience, and I stand against everything he wrote in his manifestos, and books. Do you defend the actions of Monstanto every time you buy an orange? Every time you drink an orange juice? Are you required to explain yourself every time you buy a piece of electronics that exploited, killed, a labourer in the Tiexi district? Is this your notion of humanity? Do you really think things are that simple?

    I respect defying his ideology, and I respect boycotting him if you feel that strongly about it. I won’t stand on trial for allowing music I enjoy to affect my life in it’s own way, however. Blind, aberrant hatred of an obvious sociopath isn’t productive, effective, or meaningful. If you really cared to deny Varg Vikernes, you wouldn’t dignify his actions with a response.

  • Penile Intruder

    Stupidest fucking article I have ever read.

  • jd091

    Will still listen to Burzum

    Will still listen to Arghoslent

    Will not care in the slightest.

  • parasitesafari

    I’d love to see a Venn diagram documenting the relationship between metal fans who think you can separate Varg’s politics from his music, and metal fans who can’t take a band seriously if there’s a woman in it. I’m thinking there’s a lot of overlap between fans who can separate the racist, anti-Semitic, nationalist opinions from Burzum but dismiss any band containing breasts and a uterus.

    • Ryan

      I would love to see a venn diagram of metal fans who seek to accuse others of indecency due to their musical tastes, and right-wing fundamentalist preachers or politicians accusing others of indecency due to their religious beliefs.

      • parasitesafari

        That would be a good one, too.

  • Erik

    You can’t just pick an choose which artist to support based on political beliefs. If you are willing to boycott Varg for his, you should also boycott H.P. Lovecraft for his racism, as well as the bands that are inspired by him; they’re just propaganda for racism, right?

    The famous children author Roal Dahl was a nazi sympathizer, and a misogynist. Should we burn his books because of this? Do you see the point I’m getting at? Burzum’s music doesn’t reflect his rhetoric, and there has been intolerance in artists since time began. To say “don’t support Varg, he’s a bad guy” you would have to apply this idea to every artist, or else you’re just complaining for the sake of nothing.

    If you don’t want to support Varg, fine. Leave us alone about it, at least. Your opinions are short-sighted and naive.

    • mrslippy

      +1

    • alex

      If you had read Roald Dahl’s autobiography you’d know he most certainly wasn’t a nazi sympathiser.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Schroeter/1325539630 Brian Schroeter

    His views arent what keep me from liking Burzum, the music to me is just boring and uninteresting. I cant promote crap.

  • Ricardo Clement

    This one made me put my Burzum shirt on, just to piss off you “black metal moralists”.

  • http://jimsfear.blogspot.com/ ferocious_fetus

    So there’s no problem listening to “normal” dudes insane music (about Satan, gore, strip/rape/strangling women) but listening to one insane guy’s music about Tolkien-ish fairytales is unacceptable. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

    I’ll go back in time and NOT watch Until The Light Takes Us also…since Varg is like the centerpiece for the film. How about unsubscribe to Decibel since they ran that Varg cover story?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kyle-Leary/1534936505 Kyle Leary

    Nice touch with all of the Burzum albums for sale on the bottom of the page…

  • stretch it over your head like a swimcap

    This guy is seriously misinformed and obviously incredibly paranoid.

    Aside from that, his “music” sucks.

  • 138

    It’s as simple as this, if you don’t like it, don’t listen to it. You have no right to tell others what to listen to, we can all make our own decisions on whether or not to listen to Burzum based on what we find acceptable or appropriate, or hopefully (and more importantly) whether we enjoy the MUSIC. I’d sooner boycott this website than Burzum, as no-one has the right to impose their own standards, views or opinions on anyone else, and the only one doing this is you. Get off your moral high horse indeed, I have my own mind. Extreme music will usually come from extreme people, if you can’t handle it, maybe black metal isn’t the genre for you.

  • Rep

    At least i’ll stop reading this webzine now. Varg is a great black metal musician, one of the best!

    And he’s articles are just funny, you cant take em that seriously.

  • Oldestfart

    Yeah, *you* at MS cut the crap already and don’t interview him, don’t write about him anmore etc, ok?

    Btw, why are you pissed so much now? Now you can see (and you could see it before) that he *is* real black metal – he *is* evil. *Really evil*. Aint that the thing you like in metal music..? Hypocrites.

  • David Fisthammerthrone

    Varg was only in jail for 15 of the 21 years he was sentenced to. If he had actually served 21 full years, then to have been released in 2009 means he would have had to have been incarcerated in 1988.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Mollica/9373117 David Mollica

    You know, Fallen is a good album and I enjoy the music. You can seperate the man from the product he creates, especially when you don’t actually pay for the album in the first place, then aren’t you harming Varg by enjoying his music? After all he’ll never play live so music and merch are his only income.

  • Psvt

    While you’re at it,

    - stop listening to Wagner, or Liszt,
    - stop buying Ford cars
    - stop using electricity and incandescent lightbulbs (Thomas Edison was an anti-semite on Henry Ford’s level)

    I have no respect for Varg’s personal or political views, but I do think he is a good musician and will listen to old Burzum songs when in the mood (and have paid for his service of writing and performing those songs). So, no, Gary, I won’t stop listening to him because he makes you uncomfortable. Why don’t you listen to a less offensive genre, if it makes you so uncomfortable to be in the company of those that separate personal views from product/services?

  • Etch

    Burzum’s music is art. End of. Just because someone doesn’t agree with Varg’s personal beliefs on some topics doesn’t mean they can’t appreciate his music. Why is it so wrong to buy his albums when the lyrics deal entirely with norse mythology and the music is as good as it was on Fallen or any of his classic albums. All of that aside, I actually consider Varg to be a very intelligent person. I think that he has some…questionable beliefs that tarnish his otherwise intelligent viewpoint. Example? Legitimate concern for the integrity of one’s culture and country= good. Blaming the Jews= very very bad. I also have speculated this, possibly because of some linguistic or cultural seperation, some of the things he says are…lost in translation. I won’t get much more into that, but I will if I must explain myself. Ultimately my point is that music is art. The action’s of the artist must be put aside when considering art, or the whole point of art is ruined. Art is something above man; it is created by man, but exists in a realm of existence different than that of the metaphysical actions of men. Werd?

  • ThulsaDooom

    I own Burzum, Arghoslent and Grand Belial’s Key albums. Guess what? They destroy the shit out of whatever Brooklyn hipster bm Decibel and other horrid metal journalism ilk want to peddle as if there’s even a hint of originality. I don’t care about a metal band’s views, I’m not some fucking kid looking for a role model.

    • Misanthrope

      Burzum also destroys the fuck out of shit like Deftones.

    • Misanthrope

      Burzum also destroys the fuck out of shit like Deftones.

  • Dark Father

    As if supporting bands that sing about gore and rape is better? ‘scratches head” Ohh, and rap is such talented and positively messaged music? Kill a hoe and gat a bitch. Yes, that’s family time music. Those things are just fine and acceptable to society. But, no, don’t listen to Burzum, because it’s just not politically correct and you wont “fit in” to the liberal Marxist communistic psychobrainwashing. These people who post articles like this don’t know what metal is and should go back to the mall. They probably hang out with ANTIFA setting around bashing and attacking people’s freedom just like the true Fascists they really are!!!!!!! I am not a Burzum or Varg fan, but art is art and has no boundaries. Censorship goes against creativity and freedom. If it’s OK for one side of the fence, then it’s OK for the other. You show your true colors by even posting this article, YOU are the FASCIST!!!!!!!! You do exactly what you claim to be against by posting this article.

  • Nail

    I wouldn’t give a shit if Varg was muslim and went to a gay bar every night, I still like his music.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dylan-Jones/1052640748 Dylan Jones

    I’d just like to say that I don’t listen to Burzum much, but I understand what a piece of shit he is. I think the SO IF HITLER MADE AN ALBUM AND IT WAS GOOD IT’D BE OKAY TO SUPPORT HIM is bogus. 1. I don’t see Varg getting in a position of power anytime soon so his views are his stupid fucking views which most people just look at with disgust. 2. Its not like I’d buy any of his albums, thats what the internet’s for. God bless youtube and such, don’t let the fucker see a penny of my money. And as for the tour deal, if I want to see Dark Throne, then I’ll pay to see them, not like I have to buy any of Burzum’s merch.
    So yeah he’s a piece of shit motherfucker, but my policy with music is if I enjoy it then I’m going to listen to it. Works for me.

  • Pete

    This really made me laugh, lol. I love Varg’s music and I dont give a shit about his beliefs, philosophy or whatever.

    “So cut the shit; stop supporting Burzum. Don’t buy Vikernes’ records” OH OKAI GOOD SIR

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Will-Smith/816922953 Will Smith

    for comparison this is what Morrissey has said about the Norway shootings.

    http://www.metro.co.uk//music/870664-morrissey-says-norway-massacre-nothing-compared-to-actions-of-kfc?ITO=socialnet-twitter-button

    IMO this is even more of an offensive and ridiculous statement than Vargs

  • Jewcifer

    Varg’s momma is a Jew.

  • Angry homo

    Didnt Varg donate all incoming money from Belus for Haiti earthquake victims because state of Norway would take his money otherwise? Go ahead and boycott him and boycott people of Haiti! HAHAHA you loose bastards.

  • jawknee

    MEXICANS FOR BURZUM! there patch aint comin off my metal battle jacket!

  • Wargod

    METALHEADS: CUT THE SHIT AND STOP SUPPORTING GARY SUAREZ

    His stupid childish whining is the textbook anti-metal attitude.

    “I don’t like Michaelangelo’s womanizing so I won’t like his art!”
    “Ozzy bit the head off a dove, he’s an animal killer! Never listen to Ozzy!”
    “Heavy Metallers all worship the Devil! They’re eeeeevil! BAN THEM ALL!!!”
    “Hendrix supported illegal drug use! DIG HIM UP AND PUT HIM IN PRISON FOR HIS BELIEFS!!”

    Suarez can’t separate the man from his creation. He wants to make music political, not entertainment. And he’s trying to use YOU as a political tool to suppress and silence free speech. Since *HE* doesn’t agree with Varg, he wants to bankrupt him, effectively censoring his free speech just like the PMRC tried to do.

    Free speech is messy, yes. There is room for incorrect or evil arguments to be had, yes. But free speech also comes with the opportunity to counter those arguments with your own perspective, allowing the masses to decide who is right–in their own minds. In this case, Gary Suarez didn’t counter ANYTHING that Varg said. Instead, he allowed his little inner tyrant to come out, demanding we ignore our own self-interest and boycott this musician, whose music many of us love. By what authority does Suarez do this? Why do we allow him to control us? I don’t. I don’t recognize Suarez’ arguments as being valid (because they don’t exist), and I don’t recognize him as having power to force me to hate a man just because Suarez commands it. Don’t make up my mind for me, Mister Suarez. Explain to me logically exactly where Varg is wrong, and I will weigh your arguments against his and decide FOR MYSELF.

    And, NO, Mister Suarez, I have NOT stopped listening to other bands for less. I didn’t drop Queen when I found out Freddy Mercury was gay. I didn’t drop Ted Nugent when he started talking about arming the children of America. I didn’t drop any black metal band for their nationalistic or racist beliefs. I didn’t even drop Motley Crue because Vince Neil is an irresponsible alcoholic murderer who has killed people while driving drunk REPEATEDLY. I dropped Motley Crue because MUSICALLY, they suck (IMHO). If Varg’s MUSIC sucks, I won’t buy it. Music is a product, and if the product is good, and I want it, then that is all that matters. Once you start judging the product by the actions of the creator (and I’m sure that Gary Suarez believes he is *PERFECT* and has never done anything stupid) you find yourself living like a monk, because people have died so you can have that cup of coffee, people have died so you can have your computer, people have died so you can wear those shoes. Whatever politician you lovingly support is 1000 times as dangerous TO YOU as Varg ever was. Everybody in power has some more or less crazy viewpoints, though for the most part they know not to tell you the truth about what they’re thinking. Varg doesn’t play the PR game, he holds nothing back from us. In essence, Suarez wants to punish Varg for being honest. And that is completely antithetical to the metal ethos. I would rather have ugly honesty than beautiful lies any day.

    Mister Suarez, you are new Metallica. You are a watered down politically correct sellout and your tyrannical ranting is devoid of reason or content. You are brutally incorrect in trying to shortcut free speech, instead rushing us to boycott Varg without a valid argument on your behalf. I have heard that you like punk music; every punk I know would despise what you’re saying. Every metalhead should despise what you’re saying. Every free citizen should despise what you’re saying.

    To me, murder is wrong, and racism is wrong, but he has paid his price for the murder, and by the law, his hands are now clean. I personally disagree with some of his ideas about a Jewish conspiracy, but I am still glad I read his article, and if you can prove that he is wrong, please stop trying to marginalize his ideas through a boycott and step into the ring with your counter-arguments. The way to marginalize his ideas forever is to prove him wrong. I am assuming you have facts and wisdom that CAN prove him wrong and are not just calling for a boycott based on your “feelings”. Proving him wrong will benefit us, yourself, and Varg. When faced with your overwhelming truth, Varg will have to see your side of the issue and convert. A boycott benefits nobody and is a short-cut to thinking.

    We are waiting.

    • http://voltronfutura.tumblr.com Voltron Futura

      tl;dr

      • Monitor

        nobody cares, why would you even waste your time posting “tl;dr”?

        • http://farbeyonddriven87.tumblr.com Voltron Futura

          Why would you waste your time to tell me nobody cares?

          • Sad Ghost

            why would you waste your time asking him why he wastes his time?

  • kmfcm

    Well, to paraphrase the Decibel article, you think people should stop buying this guys music because he’s racist, but not because he killed a guy?

    I downloaded Filosofem not too long ago, because after seeing a vegan band play MDF and refer to the crowd as murderers I thought “well, if I can tolerate this, what’s stopping me from googling a Burzum record and downloading it?”

    Only the first song is any good anyway.

  • Loyal MS reader

    I’m all in, wait till u see my big fat veiny anal perpetrator and u’ll fall on ur knees! I don’t like burzum though, how about some Mastodon and strawberry flavored condoms? I luv this blog, lots of people like me!!

  • Adam

    Okay first of all Varg doesn’t support nazism so let’s not try and throw that word around. Although I in no way share his view for extreme European nationalism, I do respect the fact that he isn’t afraid to shit on every religion almost equally, and I think he get’s shit for the things he says against Jews, which in itself is a religion and therefore should be open to the same scrutiny Christianity does. You can say Christianity is a pedo populated, fat-American infested group of war mongers but if someone says the Jews manipulate Christians and Muslims in some secret Twilight-esque two way romance, which is just as ridiculous, it hits the same as saying something the KKK would say about killing all the Blacks, which from what I know Varg doesn’t have a problem with as long as they stay in Africa. Once again, I am not a nationalist and am not racist nor condone the murder of people on such basis. He burned down churches and most of the Metal community has respects him for it, yet when he strays from Christianity he’s all the sudden a Nazi. Religion is Bad, Christianity is Bad, Judaism is Bad and Islam is bad. All should be taken out, and I can tell you, for me, there’s no racial motivation behind that, although I guess I can’t really know if I can say the same for Varg. Regardless, in the end, Varg is really kind of harmless. His music don’t contain any of his views AT ALL, He doesn’t tour, or throw racist rallies…he’s definitely not in the public eye and the only insights into his more extreme opinions are the blog posts he puts up on the internet that i read and laugh at for their insanity. I’d say Glenn Back is a hell of a lot more dangerous then Varg.

  • Jewcifer

    Has anyone heard that new Beatles album?

    • farkyoo

      I’m boycotting the Beatles. John Lennon was a communist; George Harrison dabbled in the occult; McCartney did drugs in the 60′s and Ringo just sucks.

  • Fat Mangouste

    Burzum is a pillar of black metal and Vikerness is Vikerness. If you’re not able to listen to a record without adhering to ideologies buy yourself a conscience. Yes, Vikerness is an extremist, yes he thinks jews are dangerous etc… So what? Is it because you don’t agree, you, the little nothing that you are, that you must practice your own Fascism on this website? Varg has the same right as you to speak. And if you’re a journalist, you probably heard about “impartiality”, something that you’re not, so not journalistic. Everyone is free to make its own point of view about Burzum music and Vikerness purposes. Beside, metal music is full of extreme men, not only Vikerness. They just don’t talk. So what are you gonna do? Boycotting every extreme band that have a different opinion from yours? Metal music has never been a music for “right-thinking nice little boy”. So stop believing you’re a hero who’ll save the people’s mind… and let the people free to juge themselves what is good or not for them.

  • DidgeryDo

    OK I never liked Varg because he’s a douche or his band because most Black Metal is just plain terrible….

    STILL

    I want to preface this with the fact that I’m not a Christian or a member of any religion…

    The writers of this site don’t have a leg to stand on. I’ve follwed Metalsucks for about two years and one thing that keeps coming up is the articles they write against Christians. They are constantly railing against them and spouting their anti-Christian hate all the time and promoting bands that incite hatred and violence towards them.

    What if a white supremacist had a hateful website against black people and on that website he wrote an article that says, “CUT THE SHIT DON’T BUY BAND X BECAUSE THEY HATE WHITE PEOPLE.” That would be kind of like a blog written by Jewish people who constantly preach hate vs Christians and write negative articles about them but then tell you to boycott someone for being anti-semitic. If you ask me it’s sanctimonious bullshit like that which inspires anti-semetism in the first place. The holier than thou hypocrisy. We are the chosen ones and its ok for us to do it but not you. These assholes and the metal community at large looked the other way with Varg when he murdered his bandmate and burned churches to the ground but now he’s being anti semetic so NOW let’s boycott him. You morons if anything he should have been boycotted LONG ago but obviously you are so self absorbed it takes him attacking YOUR people before you give a shit.

    I do give Varg some meager amount of credit because even though he is a piece of shit, It’s taken his rants to illustrate how you are the assholes too.

    Here’s an idea. How about we give ALL religions and religious people an equal degree of respect. I know that would mean the apocalypse for metal writers. After all every hack who writes metal lyrics or blogs are allways attacking Christians because it is the metal status quo and without this they would have VERY little to say about anything.

    I dont know its just me but hypocrisy and double standards piss me off and the writers of this site are full of them. Gary Suarez is a self-impressed smug prick. The “D” in Sergeant’s name stands for douchebag and he writes like a fourth grader. This actually lends creedence to the fact that 90 percent of the time he’s attempting to troll 14 year olds so technically he is going after larger prey so let’s give him credit. Axl, I apreciate that you try to impose progressive thinking on a mentally backwards scene like metal because it does have it’s merits and hopefully we will see the day when it’s less stupid….but honestly…your principals mean nothing to me if you don’t practice them yourself, If you want people to boycott Varg over slandering and inciting violence towards Jewish people that’s fine but if you don’t extend that same respect to Christian people then I don’t think anyone should take you seriously at all. You are merchants of the hate you supposedly are against.

    That’s not even all. Anti-Christianity arose in metal NOT because they actually deserved it but because metal was the sound of rebellion of youth vs. old people and the at the time the Judeo-Christian ethic was the status quo. WAS the status quo. This is 2011 people. The bands and writers that continually rely on this tired old schtick are idiots devoid of creativity. Do you think it’s any surprise that the truly original bands and artists like BTBAM or Devin Townsend don’t really go there? Maybe because they are actually creative and talented I don’t know….

    I keep slipping away from metal. I am definitely growing out of it. I still get a record here and there that I find really fun to listen to but If the most intelligent members of the clique are hypocritical douchebags then there is little hope for the mongoloids who come to this site and hang on your every word ( or the ones ).who intentionally do the opposite of what you say for the sake of being contrarian.

  • http://Totalfail! Henrik

    Cost of having you own cool metal-blog: 200 dollars.

    Paying for bandwith for a whole year: 500 dollars.

    Telling people to stop following, supporting or buying anything from Bruzum, while advertising for his new t-shirt after your angry article: Priceless!

  • Federico

    The author of this article is a fucking stupid fascist. He is telling us that we can’t listen to Burzum.

    “No amount of pseudo-philosophy or separating-the-music-from-the-man is going to make it okay.”

    What piece of shit is that? Vikernes, as a human persona, is not all evilness, even if he is a racist, that part of Vikernes is not reflected in his music. Have you read the lyrics, idiot? That’s why people ACTUALLY CAN enjoy music while disagreeing with several of his ideas that are ACTUALLY not represented in his music.

  • TNBM

    Metal is about the music not the personality behind it. If they can make great music then so what? Yeah, some might not agree, but then again don’t we give money to huge corporations anyway? Better give to something that is pleasurable(depending on your tastes)

  • Chris

    Guys, rap music has done this for forever against whites. Tupac says, “BLACK POWER!” in some of his lyrics. No one seems to have a problem with rap music though. Or at least not offended by it. Reverse racism.

    • Adam

      “Black Power” doesn’t mean anything racist against white people, it means for black people to stick together and rise up against ignorance. The slogan was created back in the 60′s when there was still a lot of racism against black people.

      • Chris

        What if I said “White power” in a song.

  • Jan

    hahah. I’m going to listen to whatever the fuck I want, whenever the fuck I want…even burzum if I feel so inclined.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Quentin-Wilkins/100001046551530 Quentin Wilkins
  • Fuck You

    “Stop liking what I don’t like!!”
    Seriously, I won’t stop supporting Burzum, cause I like him.
    And if you disagree with him, then don’t support him, but don’t think I’ll do the same.

  • Baz

    I haven’t read Vikernes latest but I do note an interesting irony. Most extreme metal fans will blaspheme against Christianity with no problems whatsoever. It is common place to read scathing comments and see artwork that clearly implies hatred of that particular ideology. But when it is directed toa different group suddenly everyone gets very queasy indeed. The fact is that Christianity is now a majority non white religion and its adherents may well feel threatened by much of metal’s iconography. And yet some metal fans consider this completely okay, but draw the line when such vehemence is directed to another group within society. My point is that if metal’s ‘job’ is to push the boundaries of what is considered extreme musically and ideologically, then Burzum fulfills that role admirably, and any attempt to censor him is ultimately arbitary and subjective. Scathing criticism of one branch of Abrahamaic religion is totally okay it seems, whilst the exact same behaviour towards another isn’t – this is the double standard that obviously some metal fans find hard to reconcile.

    • alex

      You win this page

    • GMAN

      You would win………… except Christianity is a religion not a Race

      • alex

        Hence why i said “You win this page” and not “You win Christianity”.

      • Misanthrope

        Judaism is a religion as well. And if you categorize Jews as a race, that makes them the biggest racists of all, since they categorize non-Jews, regardless of race, as “goyim”, which means “cattle”.

        • brzrkr

          Goyim is from Hebrew and simply means “nation,” but has come to mean non-Jews in much the same way that Gringo refers to non-Hispanics. Big effing deal? Where did you find this “cattle” crap? Also, Jews don’t consider themselves a race. No doubt you can find some Jewish bigots out there, but you’ll find those in any group of people. Here’s an idea: base your arguments and beliefs on reality instead of going from your paranoid gut feelings. There’s stupidity and insularity in every group of people.

      • Misanthrope

        Judaism is a religion as well. And if you categorize Jews as a race, that makes them the biggest racists of all, since they categorize non-Jews, regardless of race, as “goyim”, which means “cattle”.

  • Maxwell

    Is this a fucking joke? Stop listening to a band’s music because the artist is a racist? Fuck off. Listen to the goddamn music, not what Varg says.

  • Burzum sucks

    I hate burzum. They’re over rated as fuck. The only good songs he has is War and the intro to Lost Wisdom. The rest of his songs are boring and an ear sore to listen to.

  • BuffHotwell

    LOL You guys are THE biggest cry-babies on the metal sites out there. You don’t seem to have a problem ripping off Burzum’s artwork to make your little shirts do you? Then you actually deleted ALL of the 350+ comments that were up because you probably didn’t like seeing all Pro-Varg posts instead of everyone sympathizing with your point of view? Wow. Keep bellyaching about someones point of view in metal, jesus christ guys, get a set and keep it about music and quit trying to make things about politics.

  • BuffHotwell

    LOL You guys are THE biggest cry-babies on the metal sites out there. You don’t seem to have a problem ripping off Burzum’s artwork to make your little shirts do you? Then you actually deleted ALL of the 350+ comments that were up because you probably didn’t like seeing all Pro-Varg posts instead of everyone sympathizing with your point of view? Wow. Keep bellyaching about someones point of view in metal, jesus christ guys, get a set and keep it about music and quit trying to make things about politics.

  • Dybbuk

    Who gives a shit about what your small brain thinks Suarez! Is it an AIPAC boycott initiative for community interest? You’re just pathetically ignorant but you care to judge high of your political correctness…

  • Dybbuk

    Who gives a shit about what your small brain thinks Suarez! Is it an AIPAC boycott initiative for community interest? You’re just pathetically ignorant but you care to judge high of your political correctness…

  • Dybbuk

    And if you want nazis to boycott go to Israël, you’ll be more useful!

  • Dybbuk

    And if you want nazis to boycott go to Israël, you’ll be more useful!

  • Metal_mike12

    I agree completely.  And who are we kidding how many ppl only listen to Burzum because of the infamy surrounding them?  I’m sure there weren’t that many Burzum followers before 1993.  Varg is a disgrace to humanity and on top of all that he’s a mediocre musician at best….I’ve never understood why ppl bow down and lick the guy’s sack and proclaim him to be this artistic genius.  There’s much better bands out there that deserve ppl’s attention and admiration, it’s a shame ppl continue to and always will follow the piece of shit that is Varg Vikernes. 

    • Misanthrope

      Maybe people listen to Vikerners because his music is unique, otherworldly and infused with a feral ferocity that puts shit like suicide silence, killswitch engage and their ilk to shame.
      But wait that’s just my opinion, which doesn’t carry any more weight than yours.

    • Misanthrope

      Maybe people listen to Vikerners because his music is unique, otherworldly and infused with a feral ferocity that puts shit like suicide silence, killswitch engage and their ilk to shame.
      But wait that’s just my opinion, which doesn’t carry any more weight than yours.

  • FARKYOO

    Keep your politics out of our music. If people can enjoy one without delving into the other then so be it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/herzeleid1995 Jesus Enos

    I, as a Jew, thought I listened to Burzum because I liked the music, not because I supported or was at least blindly ignorant of Varg’s antisemitism and racism. Thank you for bringing me to light on this. Now that I know, I will go get uncircumcised so i may keep listening to Burzum without hating myself.

  • http://www.facebook.com/herzeleid1995 Jesus Enos

    I, as a Jew, thought I listened to Burzum because I liked the music, not because I supported or was at least blindly ignorant of Varg’s antisemitism and racism. Thank you for bringing me to light on this. Now that I know, I will go get uncircumcised so i may keep listening to Burzum without hating myself.

  • Fucku

    i don’t support burzum
    i don’t support kikes
    i don’t support niggers
    i don’t support sand niggers
    i don’t support spics
    i don’t support gooks

  • Fucku

    i don’t support burzum
    i don’t support kikes
    i don’t support niggers
    i don’t support sand niggers
    i don’t support spics
    i don’t support gooks

  • Fucku

    i don’t support burzum
    i don’t support kikes
    i don’t support niggers
    i don’t support sand niggers
    i don’t support spics
    i don’t support gooks

  • yourallabunchoffaggots

    his music fucking sucks you guys are all a bunch morons trying to be so fucking cool and dark and evil his music is a complete pile of droning shit.you fuckers make me sick its the most untalented heap of shit ive ever listened to one day you fuckers will wake up and realize that black metal is positively bullshit and those who play it are untalented fucks who cover there mediocraty with distortion.It is the epitimy of shit ive been there myself and thank god i can now recognize it for what it truly is a bunch of pathetic talentless wannabes strumming out there oh so gothic shitty drop d chords you guys need to grow the fuck up and learn what real music is and stop dressing up like a  bunch of stupid vampires or whatever the fuck your going for your not cool and all of society laughs at how stupid and pathetic you look.BLA BLA BLA liberal marksist neo nazi bla bla bla im so opinionated fuck this fucking loser and the shit he released in prison makes me want to barf when will you people realize that a catholic quire and orchestra hits and medievel shit dont belong in music theres a reason your shit is so underground…because it fucking sucks and youve slowly aquired the taste for it by venturing further and further bit by bit into the land of complete horseshit