CH-CH-CH-CHANGES: WHY BANDS YOU LIKE START SUCKING (PART 2 OF 6: YOU THINK YOU’RE PIMPSAUCE / JEFF FOXWORTHY)

Friday, September 9th, 2011 at 3:30pm by

There comes a time in the life of any moderately successful band where a decision must be made: to continue writing artistically relevant music or to throw on a cowboy hat and write about beer and puss—

I wonder which is more profitable.

Last week we explored the first of six stylistic pitfalls good bands/musicians so often fall prey to (click here to see part 1!), changes in quality of life. In this edition we will be focusing our attention on a very different, but equally devastating gaffe, and it’s a distinctly American problem at that (provided that Canada is basically America).

I recently interviewed Dead Letter Circus’s frontman, Kim Benzie, and he divulged a fascinating bit of knowledge: the whole “cock rock” craze that took the States by storm five or so years ago never happened down under.

“In America, rock got divided into two: it either got really heavy with the hardcore kids and the metal scene or it went to outback hick with stuff like Nickelback or Three Doors Down. What happened in Australia is that we didn’t have any bands like that at all. Nu-metal kind of got uncool there. Nickelback is uncool as a general rule. We didn’t have anything like that. What we did have was a new ground for people who were into Tool and the Deftones.”

Exqueeze me? You mean none of this?

Lots of these?

Rocko's Modern Life

and plenty of this?

Shit, I think I’m moving to Australia. Cock rock is an all-American problem, so for whatever reasons, this force that causes bands to change their sound so radically is localized very much to the States. It should be said, though, that like heroes and soufflés, cock rockers are not born, but made.

Even the bands that we so typically associate with the [bowel] movement didn’t start off as the titty-grabbing, beer-guzzling, all ‘Mercan rockers we know them as today. They all had humble beginnings as below average, semi-tolerable radio rock bands that got a little attention and found kissing and telling to be an easy transition.


(Yes! There was a time when even Nickelback could write a mediocre song!)

And that’s all well and good, but these cases are hardly interesting. You didn’t care about Theory of a Deadman when the singer had an ass of a mustache and wrote crappy breakup songs:

Theory of a Deadman

So what do you care if he’s now writing about his girlfriend slutting it up at the bar; you didn’t like them before and you don’t now.

But what about the edgy guys? Y’know, the dudes with the matching black outfits who stole Iron Maiden’s leads and rapped about “contemplating suicide” in 2000 (raise your hand if you learned a new word from this ditty!)?

How is it that nearly ten years later we find these boys in the company of money-flashing suit n’ ties and scantily-clad broads? Did all those sad white kids in the first video blossom into “Dirty”-era Christina Aguilera look-alikes? And at what point did the singer get a stupid haircut, drop the white thug act, and get laid?

It’s common sense, but in the music world timing is everything. People in 2000 weren’t universally more depressed than they are today, and people today aren’t having radically more sex than were in 2000. These are “flavor of the week” topics so to speak.

Why is it “cool” now to strain over three chords about all the sex you are or, more likely, aren’t having? The same reason it was soooo cool in ’99 to say “fuck” 80 bajillion times in a song. These are cultural taboos on the most shallow level, yet they add just enough zest to break us for three to four minutes from the doldrums of daily life.

We see this on the other end of the c-rock spectrum as referenced in the “outback hick” part of Benzie’s quote. Can you think of any other reason as to why Drowning Pool would simply let the quality hit the floor and move on to red-neck anthems and videos that look like Burger King commercials?

Why else would musicians from three awesome metal bands in the ’90s unite to form the backing band for the Blue Collar Comedy Tour?

If the buzz factor is eliminated, it don’t make a lick of sense.

If you’re a middle class, middle-aged regular joe who works 50 hours a week in a 6’’ by 6’’ cubicle maybe pretending you’re some no-rule-followin’ country fella’ on the ride home, it’s liberating. At least it sells records.

But that aside, how is it that the only certifiably Southern person in Hellyeah is the only one in their promo pictures not wearing a stupid hat? I’m sorry, having a mustache doesn’t mean you can speak Italian.

And wearing a ten gallon hat doesn’t make your band good (or turn them into Pantera).

Naturally, if your group’s appeal is rooted in following such popular whims, you’re gonna find that your sound is always changing and that your fans are always pissed.

To conclude, I leave you folks just with this:

Why? Because writing about all this swanky, feel-good, tunage has got me feelin’ pretty KICK ASS and I hope you do too.

Keep it sleazy.

-BS

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=506137459 Chuck Wagner

    If you liked any of those bands to begin with, then you must take the road of Samson.

    1. Get really buff and, assuming you already have long hair, cut it.
    2. Go down to the local ghetto, flash some gang signs, and as they approach you whip out a switchblade and scream “CUT MAH EYEZ OUT-TAAAAH!”
    3. Assuming you survive, live on the streets as a beggar until said bands come to your nearest arena (or equivalent local venue).
    4. Buy a ticket by first whoring yourself out by actually getting skullf**ked.
    5. Enter the venue and “enjoy” the music.
    6. While the last band is playing the final song (which consequently is a singalong with all of the other opening bands featured on stage), rip-off your shirt, position your hands to the nearing support beams, and cry out “O Lord God blahblahblah send me to HELL for my sins.”
    7. Die.

    That is all.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Corey-Mitchell/660352330 Corey Mitchell

      fuck, fuck, fuck! 

      Sorry. There seems to be lots of censored “fucks” around here lately. Was just testing to see if this was a Disqus issue, a MS issue, or a self-imposed censoring.Now back to your regularly scheduled programming. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Corey-Mitchell/660352330 Corey Mitchell

      fuck, fuck, fuck! 

      Sorry. There seems to be lots of censored “fucks” around here lately. Was just testing to see if this was a Disqus issue, a MS issue, or a self-imposed censoring.Now back to your regularly scheduled programming. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Corey-Mitchell/660352330 Corey Mitchell

      fuck, fuck, fuck! 

      Sorry. There seems to be lots of censored “fucks” around here lately. Was just testing to see if this was a Disqus issue, a MS issue, or a self-imposed censoring.Now back to your regularly scheduled programming. 

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Corey-Mitchell/660352330 Corey Mitchell

        Apparently, it was self-imposed.

        On a metal blog?

        • Huntermc

          Cocksucker
          Fuck
          Motherfucker
          Cunt
          Shit
          Piss
          Tits

          Just checkin’ for the censorships

          • Huntermc

            Nope, no censorships here, boss!

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Corey-Mitchell/660352330 Corey Mitchell

        Apparently, it was self-imposed.

        On a metal blog?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Corey-Mitchell/660352330 Corey Mitchell

        Apparently, it was self-imposed.

        On a metal blog?

  • Gecko

    I secretly liked the Hellyeah song.  Please forgive me, Ronnie James Dio.

    • Alex

      I will never forgive what Hellyeah to Mudvayne.

      • Alex

        *did

        • MachinaeSupremacist

          >implying Mudvayne was better before Hellyeah

          • blackjustice

            If I was forced to listen to Mudvayne ld50 vs. any hellyeah for 100 days straight, I could atleast take the mudvayne. Their bass player remembered how to turn his amp up back then since he was the only member worthwhile. 

          • SdA

            uh, the drums on ld 50 are pretty nuts. saying the bass player was the only worthwhile member is just ignorant. the guitar is the worst part of mudvayne. 

          • blackjustice

            I’m slightly biased because I’m a bass player. Maybe one of these days I’ll give it a listen and pay closer attention to the drums. 

      • Anthony

        The last 2 Mudvayne albums sucked, but they were heading in that direction anyway.

      • Anthony

        The last 2 Mudvayne albums sucked, but they were heading in that direction anyway.

  • lost goat

    im not even gonna go into how ridiculous those guys from mudvayne look trying to pull off that phony redneck rocker look………

  • http://twitter.com/orbsonb Ben Robson

    the first Drowning Pool album is actually kind of good. Dave Williams had a good voice, and the songs were pretty heavy/catchy/not totally retarded (other than Bodies which was still fun).

  • http://twitter.com/orbsonb Ben Robson

    the first Drowning Pool album is actually kind of good. Dave Williams had a good voice, and the songs were pretty heavy/catchy/not totally retarded (other than Bodies which was still fun).

    • Pastor of Muppets

      Ugh. I was a nu-metal loving 17 year old when that turd dropped and even I thought it was shitty.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jordan-Lunsford/100000821886561 Jordan Lunsford

    Interesting article, I honestly didn’t even know Papa roach was still around, and it’s crazy how much they have changed in the last 10 years.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jordan-Lunsford/100000821886561 Jordan Lunsford

    Interesting article, I honestly didn’t even know Papa roach was still around, and it’s crazy how much they have changed in the last 10 years.

  • Anthony

    Well Didn’t Drowning Pool switch singers twice? I know the first guy died (which sucked cuz he was pretty good and the band had a decent first album), and then they fired their 2nd singer who did that song for the Punisher soundtrack. So maybe they changed their sound to try and suit their vocalist’s singing style?

  • Anthony

    Well Didn’t Drowning Pool switch singers twice? I know the first guy died (which sucked cuz he was pretty good and the band had a decent first album), and then they fired their 2nd singer who did that song for the Punisher soundtrack. So maybe they changed their sound to try and suit their vocalist’s singing style?

    • EvilMoogle

      Yeah they have exSoil Singer now. He has always wrote “love” songs

  • Fred Durst

    Lol at calling Mudvayne great.

  • Fred Durst

    Lol at calling Mudvayne great.

  • http://heavymetalist.com theheavymetalist

    I am Aussie and the guy you interviewed is retarded… Check the ARIA charts idiot

  • http://heavymetalist.com theheavymetalist

    I am Aussie and the guy you interviewed is retarded… Check the ARIA charts idiot

    • http://www.facebook.com/stamopoulos Steven Stamopoulos

      + 1

      Indie hipster bullshit, and rap/hip hop/”swag” music is king here. At least in Melbourne. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/stamopoulos Steven Stamopoulos

      + 1

      Indie hipster bullshit, and rap/hip hop/”swag” music is king here. At least in Melbourne. 

  • Grindkong

    I sincerely hope you didn’t believe any of those bands you listed had any integrity to begin with.  Mudvayne was already for loser white trash midwesterners.  Even before they hooked up with Vinnie Paul and made Hellyeah.  The only difference is young Mudvayne fans have grown up and listen to the music of their parents.  Nu-metal and hick-rock have the same fan base anyways so it makes sense.

  • Grindkong

    I sincerely hope you didn’t believe any of those bands you listed had any integrity to begin with.  Mudvayne was already for loser white trash midwesterners.  Even before they hooked up with Vinnie Paul and made Hellyeah.  The only difference is young Mudvayne fans have grown up and listen to the music of their parents.  Nu-metal and hick-rock have the same fan base anyways so it makes sense.

  • Metalwolf

    Nickelback’s “The State” is a solid album.  Only when they started writing puke-worthy love ballads did they suck.  They even pump out a decent party rock song once in a while nowadays.  But fuck, their sappy shit must go.

  • Metalwolf

    Nickelback’s “The State” is a solid album.  Only when they started writing puke-worthy love ballads did they suck.  They even pump out a decent party rock song once in a while nowadays.  But fuck, their sappy shit must go.

    • http://daedalus-t.livejournal.com/ Dan

      I had this conversation with one of my professors once… he was like “If I get one murder scott-free, it’s going to be that dude from Nickelback.”  When I tried to say that “Leader of Men” had been decent, he amended it with, “Okay, if I get two murders, first him, then you.”

      • Metalwolf

        Lol witty, but seriously, I liked that album a lot this summer.  His vocals are a little wonky at that stage, but the songs are all solid.  And none of them are “If Everyone Cared”, “I’d Come for You” horsecrap.  Good modern rock record, check out “Diggin’ This”, great song.

    • http://daedalus-t.livejournal.com/ Dan

      I had this conversation with one of my professors once… he was like “If I get one murder scott-free, it’s going to be that dude from Nickelback.”  When I tried to say that “Leader of Men” had been decent, he amended it with, “Okay, if I get two murders, first him, then you.”

  • Sittininyourmamasbasement

    I wonder how HELLYEAH wouldve tunred out if they didnt get Vinnie Paul to play drums. I just figure it wouldve been less lame. I find it hard to believe when they got together they intended on turning themselves into retarded Texans. So, when Vinnie gets involved, they trade in a beanie for ridculous hat and a vest with motor oil and git r dun patches.

  • Sittininyourmamasbasement

    I wonder how HELLYEAH wouldve tunred out if they didnt get Vinnie Paul to play drums. I just figure it wouldve been less lame. I find it hard to believe when they got together they intended on turning themselves into retarded Texans. So, when Vinnie gets involved, they trade in a beanie for ridculous hat and a vest with motor oil and git r dun patches.

  • Sittininyourmamasbasement

    I wonder how HELLYEAH wouldve tunred out if they didnt get Vinnie Paul to play drums. I just figure it wouldve been less lame. I find it hard to believe when they got together they intended on turning themselves into retarded Texans. So, when Vinnie gets involved, they trade in a beanie for ridculous hat and a vest with motor oil and git r dun patches.

  • Sir Peras

    Well, wtf here I go. I personally like Nickelback’s All The RIght Reasons, it is solid. Furthermore, I REALLY like Papa Roach’s LOVEHATETRAGEDY, which to me is full of meaning in its lyrics, it deals with love, depression, homesickness and addiction in a straight, simple, yet visual and both cohesive and coherent way. I think I could write a “Justify Your Shitty Taste” article on this album lol

    As for Theory of a Deadman, I think they just moved on into Nickelback’s league, just push the button and make an album. IDK, I guess it comes to a point where you just want to start making money, having poolhouses and a whole entourage of ass-kissing assisstants, good for them, they will make more money in one year than most of us together in a whole lifetime.

    That’s it, gonna go crank that Papa Roach’s C.D right now.

  • Curmudgeon

    I almost wish the country rock sound and cock rock sound would come to long island.  Here, everywhere you go… and at every stop light, all you hear is Pitbull.  Rock music doesn’t exist around here. :(

  • Anonymous

    Stand up, Get your hands up!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=500736595 Kyle Walker

    Country Boy or what ever it is called by aaron “mommy didn’t love me” lewis would fit in great with this list

  • http://www.facebook.com/jacob.lyon1 Jacob Lyon

    Maybe when I was 12 I would care about these bands, but I’m 22 and have other things to care about, like, none of these bands