EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH THE ACACIA STRAIN’S VINCENT BENNETT

Tuesday, December 30th, 2008 at 11:00am by

I reviewed The Acacia Strain’s latest album, Continent, a couple months back and I remember being suitably impressed by its seamless integration of death metal intensity and hardcore attitude (both flavors of breakdowns, too). It might still be the only record I’ve heard that really makes sense to be called “deathcore” in a descriptive, non-pejorative way. After having said that, however, I am just glad that vocalist Vincent Bennett was on a different continent (hah) at the time of our interview, or he might have just terminated me. Read more from Vincent’s emailed responses about the dirty d-word and touring in Oz after the jump.

How has the touring been since the release of Continent? How have the fans reacted to it?

Touring has been awesome. We have done a couple tours that I think opened us up to a bunch of new kids. People who already knew who we were have been reacting better to this album than to any other. When we play the songs live everyone sings along, and we have been getting a multitude of requests for new songs live. It’s awesome.

How’s Australia? Have you toured Australia before?

Australia is amazing. I just want to thank Graham at Resist Records and Parkway Drive for giving us a chance to come over here. People are reacting really well. I get literally 50 to a 100 kids coming up to me every night telling me that they have never heard of us before, but now we are one of their favorite bands. I’m trying to change lives over here. Haha! This is the best thing we could have done for our first time over here. Parkway Drive is bigger than Jesus.

What’s life on the road like for The Acacia Strain?

It’s pretty laid back. We have been doing it long enough where each of us have our own routine and we know how to stay out of each others way. Band arguments from tour induced stress are one of the major reasons for bands breaking up. Some people just cant take being around the same people in such an enclosed area for such a long time. We got through that and we get along really well. We always come away from a tour with a bunch of new friends. We love touring with new bands, but we won’t turn down a tour if it is with old friends. This is really the only life we know anymore.

Now that you’ve had a few months to tour behind it, what do you think about the album? Are you still excited or were there thing you wanted to do differently?

I still feel that this is the only record we have done that I actually like. We have only played a select handful of songs off the new record and I’m still looking forward to playing the rest of the songs. Like I said, kids are requesting a lot of songs off Continent, so I’m excited to be able to play them for kids who actually want to hear them. I don’t know what I could have done differently, everything is going pretty smoothly.

There’s a lot of pop culture references in your music. For instance, on the newest album, there song titles that make references to comic book characters, The Terminator, mythical beasts, etc. How do these titles reflect the lyrics of the songs?

The album titles are merely a reflection of the album concept.They are all names of fictitious beings that have had a hand in the destruction of the human race and the planet earth.

What was going through your head when you wrote the lyrics “Four funerals….no fucking weddings?”

That is my version of a “tour” song. It’s about us dying on the road. There are four of us… I’m sure you can put together the rest of that yourself.

Tell us about your DVD video shoot.

Well, we are having a DVD shoot on December 28th at the Palladium in Worcester, Massachusetts. It’s 10 bucks to get in. There was a golden ticket for 50 bucks but they are all sold out so I won’t even get into it. The Red Chord, Shipwreck, Whitechapel, Cruel Hand and Thy Will Be Done are all playing, as well as us obviously. We are going to be playing for a really long time and we are going to be playing a lot of songs that we haven’t played in forever or have NEVER played. I’m hoping a lot of people are coming or its going to be a pretty shitty DVD. HA! But seriously, it’s going to be a fucking party. So if you can get there, get there. I don’t care if you live in California. Buy a plane ticket! It’s only 10 bucks to get in and be forever immortalized.

What do you think is most important to capture for a concert DVD? Is there a lot more pressure on the performance from the cameras?

Capturing the band as they were meant to be captured is the most important. Every band has a certain something they put forth in every show. Sometimes you have off nights though. And that’s the only thing that worries me. We are going to be doing the same shit we do for a show normally, but what if its an off night? I don’t think there is camera pressure. When we step out on stage normally there are a bunch of faces looking at you, that’s no different than a camera. We give 110% every time we step on the stage, and that’s what you will (hopefully) see on this DVD.

What do you think about the “deathcore” label? Do you think it describes The Acacia Strain? Do you embrace the term or is it a “dirty word?”

I have said it a couple of times: deathcore is the new nu-metal. You see the same kids and the same ethic. It sucks. And if anyone calls us “deathcore” then I might do something very bad to them. We aren’t deathcore. We are heavy. Any band that calls THEMSELVES deathcore should not be writing music. It just goes to show you that the weak minded need to label things.

Now I don’t mean to shit stir but there was some dead buzzing on the internet about beef between The Acacia Strain and Emmure – any truth behind that?

I don’t want to talk about it. The internet is stupid and full of lies most of the time. I don’t like that band. Bottom line.

-DBR

  • jonowev

    Like it or lump it, they are deathcore. Whether they have made a concious effort to become a deathcore band or not is besides the point. I personally like some bands of that niché, but I downloaded Continent and found it be very pinnacle of uninspiring and generic deathcore.

  • I, Monarch

    I don’t want to read the interview simply based on the way I see Mr. Benett dresses.

  • jonowev

    ^^ Fucking pathetic and childish.

  • TedTedPoleyPoley

    is that Necro?

  • RobotScythe

    Not too impressed with the tuneage.

    But I will say this…if you’re old enough to have stubble on your face, straighten your cap the fuck up. I’ll never understand why grown men want to look like 12 year old’s cruising the mall waiting for their balls to drop.

  • Alex

    Wow, really? Who fucking cares how he dresses or the direction of his cap. I feel people who rip on others for what they wear should grow up.

    Yes, I’m not a fan of the straight brimmed cap turned to the side, but I have better things to do than care about it.

    • david

      wow EXACTLY what i was thinking

  • mike

    Deathcore the new nu-metal? Funny. Nu-metal was a mainstream fad that was all over mainstream radio and TV…while all the major labels signed and signed 100′s of Korn and Limp Bizkit clones trying to cash in on the next big thing. The biggest deathcore band I can think of that has had an impact on the charts is Whitechapel’s latest album. Deathcore in fact won’t even reach the heights of metalcore at its peak (which has its share of quality bands).

  • http://reaper-x.deviantart.com Reaper-X

    Mike, its not about how successful it is. It just how much of a cancer it is.
    Ever notice how when nu-metal was popular, people were going “DON’T CALL US NU-METAL?!” including the shameful nu-metal bands that had “pioneered” the genre?

    Metalcore just took Nu-Metals place as the annoying pop-metal subgenre that more people get into because “its more accessible” and just begs to be accepted.

    Notice how this genre has bands that mostly take the few “catchy” ideas and PLAY THE FUCK OUT OF THEM. Nu-metal took the groove riff and angsty lyrics. Metalcore took groove riffs and added breakdowns, swoopy hair and lyrics with more pitiful angst.

    I hate to make the /b/tard come out of me but I’m going to fucking say it.

    “This is the cancer that’s killing /m/etal.”

    If not killing it…at least making it horribly sick and annoyed with its idiocy.

  • http://www.myspace.com/dyslexicfudgicle Dyslexic Fudgicle

    Sick party neck, Vince!

  • strengthbeyondstrength

    I have to say that i had given Continent couple of spins earlier in the year, it was growing on me but then I saw them open for Unearth and Protest and only then did i learn to hate this band. Uninspired generic awful music played with what appeared utter contempt for both the audience and themselves. Never have I gone into a show relativity excited to see a band and fully ready to become a believer only to leave the show vowing to never listen to that band again. My biggest problem was with the lead singer, his singing and his stage presence were garbage. I don’t care what he looks like, it is simply a coincidence that he both looks like a douche and is one.

  • Walker

    Love them, hate em, lets get one thing strait.

    I AM THE END OF THE WORLD!!!

  • forrest dump

    Man, what a cool look!

  • Carl

    I saw the Acacia Strain at Infest and was so impressed I went and bought “The Dead Walk” soon after, and i also have Continent.

    Labels today are so silly because so many band influences can be from so many different genres. Whether its trendy or popular now is irrelevant because obviously trends dont last long, but bands like this do.

    I agree with Vince, they are just a heavy as fuck band, and if you really have the small genitals needed in order to have to label them “deathcore”, then at least recognize that they were one of the original bands to experiment with merging the genres unlike bands like Emmure who just ride their coat tales.

    And regarding his look; Watch interviews with them. He is just a goofy guy in general, whether its a stage persona or not, me thinks it is not to be taken too seriously.

  • B-Dizzle

    to Strengthbeyondstrength

    you thought his stage presence sucked? Because I’ve always thought he had a good one.

    Also, they love their fans, but Vincent has made it blatantly obvious that he hates everyone.

  • 36Thoughtless

    An elephant, a bear, and a whale are all very different animals, but they’re still all mammals. Classifications aren’t developed from simple-mindedness: they’re the result of examination of recurrent patterns among several things. So, for anyone to bitch and moan about genre classifications when their output is a prime justifying example of that classification is absolutely ridiculous. “If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and acts like a duck, it is a duck.” The Acacia Strain, aside from the opinion that they are “heavy as fuck” (whatever the hell that’s supposed to mean), is part of the deathcore trend. It has nothing to do with whether they classify themselves as such. I’m tired of this meatheaded bullshit bands try to pull whenever they’re confronted about their genre, as if it’s some stain on their career to admit the obvious.

  • PatrickF

    Saw this band live and thought they were generic as hell. Funny thing is Vincent had a “call and response” article in Decibel magazine, which for thos who arent familar, is where a band member is given 6 songs, given the song title only and asked to write down their opinion. He ripped every song and called them all generic.

    Now I will say that other online videos he does seem like a goofy, cool dude…so i dont know.

  • http://www.countshockula.blogspot.com ezra

    Is that Brian Posehn?!?!?

  • Carl

    @ 36

    Well I do agree with you that bands totally disown themselves from the “deathcore” genre like they had nothing to do with it when they clearly did, but regardless, the reason why i think its pointless to play into that is because its really not so obvious.

    I mean what classifys a band being deathcore? Is it simply a band who uses fluctuating growls and who emphasizes blastbeating and breakdowns ala Doom era JFAC? Because if thats the case, then Acacia cant be deathcore becuase they dont blast beat.

    But if not then perhaps its down tuned groove type metal with with pitch fluctuating growls? Well if thats the case then I guess bands like Skinless or Meshuggah or Aborted are deathcore right? Or is it any band who uses deep growling and utilizes breakdowns period? If thats the case I guess bands like Bloodbath and Pig destroyer are deathcore too?

    But wait arent those bands considered grindcore, or math metal, or just straight death metal???

    You see 36, once you get into “examining” them it all falls apart because there are so many different ways people can interperate things. For example when people hear high pitched screaching some people associate that with metalcore influence while others assosiate it with say black metal influences.

    Yes there are bands who follow trends, but then again i believe alot of bands are roped in by trends and get caught up in them and become unfairly stigmatized.

    The new generation of extreme metal is not (or at least shouldn’t) be defined by what genre you are, but by how well you utilize the tools that the original genres have developed through the years.

  • Joe

    Bloodbath is deathcore according to what? Man, who would give these people a forum to voice the sheer absurdity of their opinions? Oh right, Metalsucks. Thanks a lot guys. Well anyway, the reasons why Bloodbath aren’t deathcore are as follows:

    They are not teenagers.

    They have reputable musical origins.

    They are from Sweden.

    You’re an idiot.

  • PD

    @ Mike: Last time I checked, Deathcore or Metalcore is a trendy genre with karate kicks and stupid haircuts and is becoming quite mainstream in the metal community. Anything that is suffixed with a “-core” and isn’t Hardcore is just a fucking stupid name for music people want to label.

    And the only reason Whitechapel sell so well is because they make catchy music. It doesn’t strictly focus on having heavy breakdowns and being as brutal as possible. I mean, shit, listen to Father of Lies, and just around 1 minute in they pick it up with some melodic stuff. They sell because their music is catchy and “fun” to listen to while not being confined to the horrendous labels that most bands in the genre try too hard to conform to.

  • I, Monarch

    “Anything that is suffixed with a ‘-core’ and isn’t Hardcore is just a fucking stupid name for music people want to label.”
    Except for Grindcore. A lot of it is actually legitimate since it truly did grow and you can still hear influences from TRUE hardcore punk. A lot of the modern music labeled “Hardcore” nowadays has very little to do musically with the original hardcore bands like Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, Bad Brains, etc.

  • I, Monarch

    And goddammit people, the difference in labeling different bands grindcore, death metal, hardcore, metalcore, etcetera fucking etcetera comes from experience in listening to those respective genres. If it DOESN’T sound like fucking death metal it probably isn’t or is a failed attempt at trying to sound like death metal.

  • Fucks sake

    goddammit guys

  • 36Thoughtless

    @ Carl

    “You see 36, once you get into “examining” them it all falls apart because there are so many different ways people can interperate things. For example when people hear high pitched screaching some people associate that with metalcore influence while others assosiate it with say black metal influences.”

    I disagree that it falls apart completely, though it may throw some kinks into the process. I, Monarch has a good point, though. It’s about listening, although it would be more than that if we actually had the written music in front of us. So, while we may differ on specifics, general pictures tend to be agreed upon. And granted, it’s never an exact science, but it’s not simply opinion. Different people will walk up to a tree, and still say it’s a tree based on similarities with all the other things defined as “trees”; they may still differ on what type of tree it could be, or characteristics of the tree. While there is room for interpretation, we shouldn’t throw the baby out with the bathwater.

    That all said, I listened to Acacia Strain once more after I last posted to check myself, and I disagree with my original assertion that they are deathcore. Reasoning being, I’ve always considered Ion Dissonance, Despised Icon, Job for a Cowboy, and See You Next Tuesday to be deathcore, and the Acacia Strain don’t “sound” like they do (I’ll spare the specific details why). I probably pin them as more of a groove metal or groovecore in the vein of the Red Chord.

  • Adam

    Acacia Strain is just heavy. I agree with Vincent.

    I started to like metal in the first place because it was an accepting and open community. In the last five or so years, this whole deathcore thing has made everyone into assholes.

    No, I don’t like the straight billed hats and karate-core fucktards.
    No, I don’t like Nazi black metal, and I am not any less of a metal fan for it.

    So if you’re a militant for either group, go fuck yourself, stop bitching and allow metal to progress.

  • Carl

    @36 and adam:

    Good points well said.

    @Joe

    Dude, read the post before you post.

  • RayRay

    Joe- So their from Sweden so therefore their not “deathcore”. Now lets talk about being an idiot. It does not matter where a band hails from moron. I understand Bloodbath are not a deathcore band but shut up.

    PD- I agree about Whitechapel. They are slowly taking over the All Shall Perish throne as best “deathcore” band. I listen to This is Exile everyday and it never gets old. Oh yea…whoever said deathcore is killing metal….go jump off a bridge. Metal is stronger than it ever was. Regardless what genre.

  • DeafMetal

    Joe defends hed P.E. with most of his posts and insults people who don’t like them. What are “reputable musical origins?” There’s teenage bands of a lot of genres so, what does that have to do with anything? A lot of deathcore bands have members well over 20. What does anything you posted have to do with deathcore or anything at all?

  • I, Monarch

    Metal is stronger than it ever was? I’d say the early 90s were better. It’s just probably more popular now…just look at the shit that plays on Headbangers Ball.. pure shit most of the time. The abundance of “deathcore” and “metalcore” indicates the popularity that metal has reached among the younger crowd. This is not necessarily a good thing. When bands cite Korn and Suffocation as their metal influences in the same sentence I automatically become wary.

  • Carl

    @ Rayray

    You know its funny because i was totally making the point that Bloodbath wasn’t deathcore but alluding to the fact that their current album (which is awesome by the way) DOES have groove parts that are synonymous with the type of grooves that a “deathcore” band like Acacia Strain utilizes.

    So if Joe only took the time to read the whole post, me thinks he would not have probably not felt the need to post so abrasively.

    @I,Monarch

    I think you have pointed out something very true talking about headbangers ball. As much as it is suddenly a sin to say you like mcore or dcore it has its crowd because these bands are doing well.

    But ther reality is there will always be the underground and there will always be whats popular. Cannibal Corpse and Suffocation made it when Death metal was almost completely unheard of in the “mainstream”, and think about how many people they are getting exposed through the “deathcore” crowd.

  • Dr J

    Really nice post, Carl.

    I was all for labeling things Deathcore if need be, but you changed my perspective man.

  • dicknballs

    Great band but goddamn they all look like baggydouches. Yeah the look doesn’t matter, it’s only the music that matters, but Vince looks like he hearts the cock.

    Continent is a bad ass fucking album however…

  • http://Kingdomofnoise.blogspot.com Qella

    I like Acacia Strain and Continent is a killer album but I agree with the comments about their image. I am fickle enough that if I had seen Bennett before I heard the music, I wouldn’t even had checked them out. I’m an asshole that way.

  • Belphegor

    I’ve come to read some good opinions and some that were not thought out at all. Okay, now, here’s what I think about classification. It’s for people to better define a band’s sound. Some people take it to extremes that I personally find unnecessary. If you like the way a band sounds and want to find more bands with similar sounds, that’s all genres are good for. I use them to find bands that share a common sound. If not that, they wouldn’t be good for anything. They divide people who should share a common interest in extreme forms of music. They divide people based on material BS: the way they dress, the way people assume they go about things. It’s all a waste of energy.

    I first started listening to punk, heavier rock and metal music when i was ten. I enjoyed and still enjoy bands like Iron Maiden, Cannibal Corpse, and blink-182, Bright Eyes or Less Than Jake. My friends listened to all sorts of rock music, and just that brought us together. We didn’t need to classify and stereotype one another. Now, despite the amount of people I meet who claim to despise stereotyping, everyone stereotypes. Also, I know since we have organization or an attempt there at in society, everyone is guilty of it.

    Between emo and scene, metalcore and deathcore, I’m seeing it has gone beyond the music. People are hating on others for what? Their tastes? Musical tastes are almost involuntary; you just like what you like. “Emo” kids whether they want to be in a category or not, are lumped into one and ostracized. Same can be said for “metalheads” and “hardcore kids”. What started out as something meant to unify people with certain tastes has started an undeclared war amongst people who have no real justifications to abuse eachother.

    @Adam: I too saw metal music and the community who enjoy it as an open group and that was the appeal. That has drastically changed. People who claim to be “metal” are bigoted and in some cases very cruel about it. As if not being metal was a kick in the nuts. It used to upset me, but I do what I want now.

    @dicknballs: You’re right when you say the look doesn’t matter. I can be cool to dress a particular way, however you take something positive and turn it to shit with the Vince hearts the cock thing. Now, I’m not saying this because I am homosexual (believe me, I give two shits about “the gay community”) but does the way someone dresses and physically appears have to do with their sexual orientation? I wasn’t aware, and if that’s the case, someone needs to straighten me out. I have long hair and a full beard. I wear denim jeans and cheap band shirts which showcase the likes of one of my favorite bands since youth, Slayer. Also Opeth, Municipal Waste, Flogging Molly, whatever. The point is, does that make me appear liker I “heart the pussy”? Didn’t think so… I have friends who love Newfound Glory, Paramore, Brand New and Hellogoodbye. These friends are in the armed forces and can get more pussy in a week than some will probably see in their entire lives. I’m not a huge fan of the aforementioned “emo”bands. I like Blue October and Death Cab for Cutie. Does that make me any less a fan of Slayer or Behemoth or Pantera? No. Really, no. And do I put down my buddy and call him names which would render him homosexual? Fuck no.

    Anyway, defining the sounds of different bands is one thing, discriminating living breathing human beings is in a whole different ball field. The Nazis did some extreme discrimination if I recall.

    It’s ironic how ideally so many people will proclaim, “I hate racism, stereotypes, gender roles, bigotry, and I want everyone to be at peace and get along” and yet look at us…I’m guilty of some form of prejudice as much as any other human being to walk this earth. However, music, the one thing that should bring people closer to an ideal sense of humanity is now looked at in ways that’s senselessly tearing us apart. I don’t mean to sound high and mighty, I’m rather humble (and i hate holier than thou bullshit), but I’m just pointing out what I see right or wrong. I’d be curious to hear other opinions. Music shouldn’t be taken this seriously, let alone its genres.

    • metalhead7517

      Dude, you just put it all in perspective for me. I had never thought of it like that before now. Thank you for opening my eyes.

    • Black Metal Sean

      I fucken love you, dude.

    • Doctor Lipshits

      that was so well said. you opened my eyes to a lot just reading that.

  • D.T.

    Hilarious stuff. Not Deathcore.

    Nu Metal bands started to distance themselves from the name as well when it became apparent the mainstream was getting wind of what people with half a brain had known all along.

    Also its funny he refuses to pick am existing genre, or even use one to help describe their sound, because obviously their publicist or whoever knows people, online and otherwise, who know that genre will disown and/or speak up against these chumps and shame them, and rightfully so.

    ReaperX:
    “Ever notice how when nu-metal was popular, people were going “DON’T CALL US NU-METAL?!” including the shameful nu-metal bands that had “pioneered” the genre?”

    EXACTLY

    And as soon as you add bitchy, teen topics to metal , its not metal anymore. These bands are no different to Greenday and Blink182 for punkl.

  • R.Saars

    Oh and for all you people commenting on how hes dressed….

    Its called “scene” , basically an amalgam of all that is popular.

    Anything that is sold to todays kids, whether thats externally or peer based “sales”, is just mashed up.
    Its impossible for them to align too hard with one genre or subculture or such, as you leave yourself open to ridicule.

    So what is popular is being nothing and everything , and making sure anything that stands out too much is “ironic”.

    Hence the useless genres like metalcore, deathcore, whatever the hell Bokencyde and Enter Shikari are…etc…and the one, grey and amalgamating scene/sales pitch that follows them.

    Also for these crap bands, well they want to target a wide audience , so they do exactly the same, regardless if they are supposedly grown men.

  • http://myspace.com/summer4545 Summer

    The Acacia Strain is not deathcore, you fucking faggots.
    They are hardcoremetal and they are the best band in the world, so stop talking shit, you fucking gays.

  • http://myspace.com/summer4545 Summer

    And btw, Vincent Bennett is not dressed like a SCENE KID.
    You guys are the biggest pathetic douches online.

  • KillCannon

    Honestly………..

    Seriously……….

    it’s a word. stop crying over spilled milk. Who cares what someone wants to call a genre of music, it doesn’t affect you. Who cares how someone dresses or what their hairstyle is, it doesn’t affect you. The problem with the fucking whole world is people are too god damned busy focusing on other people’s shit and not on their own. Stop fucking bugging over what other people think and do. Manage your own shit and live your own life.

    buncha assclowns I swear it.

  • really?

    I agree with KillCannon. Stop stressing so much over how the people in the band dress and what “genre” they are. If you like the music than you like it, if you don’t then don’t listen to it. And as Vincent said at a show, “Love your own life and hate everyone elses”.

  • Derik

    KillCannon Knows What He’s Talking About. That’s What I Always Say; People Worry Too Much, It’s Pathetic. And As Far As I’m Concerned, The Acacia Strain Is Their Own Fucking Genre. They’re Better Than Any Other Metal Band, By Far. Except For Slayer Of Course ;)

  • wow

    this site is just full of chronic masturbaters who have no lives and sit at there computers all day criticizing legit music.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gavin-Uglypants-Hairgrove/100000832551690 Gavin Uglypants Hairgrove

      I masturbate too much.

      A lot of you guys are pretty silly. Just listen to the music you like haha.

      This band is pretty tight.

  • fabro

    Hola esta pagina esta buenisima p solo critican a los musicos. Por favor dejenlos trabajar

  • fuck you
  • fuck you

    all of you should go do what bud dwyer does in that video.

  • fuck you

    cept for killcannon

  • metalhead7517

    I fucking love this band. Enough said.

  • ThatGuy

    Fuck a genre or classification or image. Shit is so unimportant. What is important is that The Acacia Strain brings the party wherever they go!

  • Acaciastrainsucks

    This guy is a self-important douche, it gives me chills to read what he says. Definition of a dude who let his band’s success get to his head.

  • Acaciastrainsucks

    This guy is a self-important douche, it gives me chills to read what he says. Definition of a dude who let his band’s success get to his head.