MARILYN MANSON VS. TREVOR STRNAD, THE RAPE TRIAL
Monday, August 17th, 2009 at 10:30am by Vince Neilstein
UPDATE: According to Lambgoat, this story is bunk. Oh well.
Is this summer’s Rockstar Mayhem Festival trek the nail in Marilyn Manson’s coffin? Manson appears to be fucked up beyond belief in the press he’s done this year, and by all accounts his headlining stage show is a complete wreck night after night (we didn’t even watch). And now this: Manson has threatened to “rape” Black Dahlia Murder frontman Trevor Strnad’s face at a recent fan meet-and-greet in Florida.
Reports the New Zealand Herald:
The incident erupted as Marilyn was signing autographs for fans at a meet-and-greet in Florida, US, when Strnad shouted: “Welcome to the freak show,” prompting Marilyn to write “I hate those ****s” on the tablecloth in front of a fan.
The self-styled ‘Antichrist Superstar’ made a comment about wanting to “rape” Trevor’s face before swinging a punch at him. Security then intervened to break the fight up.
I’m sure there’s some background beef that precipitated this fracas, and being the metal paparazzi that we are, we ask that anyone with such information kindly come forward (you may remain anonymous if you wish). But regardless of the facts, we’re wont to side with Trevor Strnad. The guy is hilarious and was probably making a joke at an easy target, and he seemed like a pretty level-headed chap when we interviewed him a couple of weeks ago.
Round 2, after these messages…
-VN
[Thanks: Chris A.]
If i were Strnad id be laughing my ass off right now
Manson’s stage show was a complete wreck at the Tampa Mayhem fest. For all that hype I’ve heard about shit he does at his shows in the past this one is just like any other rock act. The most he does at any point is burn a Bible and confetti falls down on you. Confetti….from the Antichrist Superstar. It was nice hearing some songs from that album live like Little Horn and Beautiful People but when you look at the rest of the day Marilyn Manson doesn’t belong on the same stage with none of these bands especially Slayer. Next year Manson needs a co-headlining tour with KISS. That’s how far he has fallen.
Man, I was there too and i found it odd how after every song he needed O2.
Was it o2, or nitrous? Because that guys gone waaaayyy beyond the pale.
Yea I was there too. My girlfriend pointed out that after he humped the stage monitor for the 3rd-4th time, his assistants ran out and picked him up. Hilarious.
The only good track he played all night was Little Horn. Every other songs he either forgot to sing half the time, blatently forgot the lyrics, or sang the wrong ones (come on man. How are you gonna screw up the lyrics for Beautiful People? You’ve played it every night for the past 10 years at least!).
P.S. this story is bullshit anyway b/c Manson didn’t do any signings at the Florida shows. There may have been a fan club/backstage thing I don’t know about but we were told by everyone that he wouldn’t be signing that day or the next day in his fucking hometown. WTF?
Oh and also, WTF was up with Kerry King back door charging for autographs? They told me you have to buy something from the Jagermeister tent to get a ticket for his meet and greet. Fuck that!
AND ANOTHER THING!!! “Job For A Cowboy won’t be signing today”. WTF?!?!?
Sorry /rant off
I wonder what the attendance was like at this “fan meet-and-greet”…a dozen?
Marilyn Manson is going to die from an overdose. Or suicide. Or auto-erotic asphyxiation. All I know is he is going to be the next big celebrity to die. Either that or he will be the next celebrity to hit rehab and find Jesus. Either way it will be pure entertainment.
We can only hope…
the next “big celebrity” seriously?
I bet he finds jesus. That dude is everywhere.
They both fucking suck.
AGREED
i dont know what’s worse, goth kids or scenecore br00t41 kids
I’m sorry, but I have to ask, are you fucking retarded? TBDM is not scenecore br00t41 music, that’s shit like Carnifex, Suicide Silence, Emmure, etc. TBDM is fucking death metal.
No, they’re generic “scenecore” crap just like the other bands you listed.
In what way are they scenecore? Have you listened to their music? They sound like death metal to me. What would you consider death metal?
Go listen to Morbid Angel, Possessed, Bolt Thrower, Cannibal Corpse, Death, Suffocation, Immolation, old At the Gates (only first two albums), and Atheist. That’s death metal. This scenecore shit is just shitty -core with some melodic death metal parts thrown in.
At the Gates is one of TBDM’s bigest influences. The 2 bands music is soo close together you’d be retarded to not put them in the same genra. Theres nothing “core” about TBDM, they are melodic death metal.
Most shit music has taken influence from At the Gates, but only from Slaughter of the Soul (like TBDM). I bet none of those -core kiddies have ever heard The Red in the Sky is Ours. Do people even know that the album has fucking violins? VIOLINS DAMMIT! They at least tried to spice things up. Bands like TBDM only take influence from SotS, since that’s the record with the most mainstream appeal.
um, Ziltoid? a lot of the bands you’ve listed are TBDM’s influences. TBDM has done plenty of tours and festivals supporting cannibal corpse and suffocation. Also, they’ve listed Morbid Angel and at the gates as their main influences, like taog said. There are very few breakdowns and no girl jeans or scenesters haircuts to be found in the band either.
TBDM is death metal, and if you think otherwise then you need to get out of the fucking 90s and realize death metal has evolved into more than just the shit you grew up on…Ziltoid, one day pull your head out of your ass and realize just because it has melody doesnt make it some scene shit. Go listen to Nocturnal and then tell me they’re “scene,” because I know how you label EVERY fucking band that actually has production value and isnt from the 90s as scene
@kak: Who they toured with proves nothing. If I recall correctly, Shadows Fall toured with Death and Hammerfall. THE FUCKING AGONIST JUST TOURED WITH ATHEIST!!!!! That’s all reliant on who booked the tour. And anyone can list influences, but since they don’t show up in the sound, they’re not really influences. And they have way too many breakdowns.
@Matt: You’ve obviously never read my posts before. I need good production. But good doesn’t mean glossy like Andy Sneap. Good means fitting to the sound. Sometimes raw production fits (Immortal), sometimes clean production fits (Meshuggah, Mercenary, Anubis Gate, etc.). And all music has melody, idiot. I love melodic bands that are actually god, like Mercenary, Kamelot, and others. It;s just that many shitty scene bands rely on nothing but catchy and simplistic melodies to support their otherwise vapid music. Nocturnal is a scene album from a scene band.
This Ziltoid guy is pathetic. There is no ‘core’ about TBDM, end of discussion. You’ve obviously never listened to their music because there aren’t any fucking breakdowns in it. I guarantee that you’re pushing 35 and can’t accept that TBDM are the best Death Metal band coming up through the ranks. They’ve paid their dues, and respected the greats before them. If they consider themselves Death Metal, their fans do as well, and they’re headlining tours with other Death Metal bands, chances are… they’re Death Metal! Get it through you thick skull, they’re not ’scenecore’ or whatever the fuck name you can come up with to try and dis them. Go listen to Deflorate when it comes out and tell me there is any ‘core’ to that you fucking old prick.
scenecore kids are the new goth kids…
As usual, Canvas is spot on.
But what type of insult is “rape your face?” That sounds like it would come from a 12 year old (i.e, Manson’s target audience).
I consider that pretty insulting, that you would assume I’m some ignorant dumbass who doesn’t know his roots. I love the bands you mentioned, but I’m sick of this elitism in metal. Death metal has evolved and changed, incorporating new aspects. I think TBDM is melodeath. I honestly don’t see any of the core in it at all.
The Black Dahlia Murder is fucking death metal. period. Fuck these so called “purists” who think they have all the answers. Music’s music. get over it. When The BDM headlined for Nocturnal, they brought out 3 Inches Of Blood, Hate Eternal, and Decrepit Birth. What is scene bout this tour at all? Nothing you retards
TBDM and 3IoB are pretty scene. The others are just boring.
So basically Ziltiod is an old creepy man. The rest of us havent gotten to that age were we dont try new things. Or to the age were we cant hear anything new in music.
Damn those kids in there tight jeans with there crazy hair cuts! I just hate them so much! I could fart! I remember back when I rode a dinosaur into work, we listened to REAL metal.
BDM is more blackened death metal. i never saw what’s so -core about them. They’re popular. Whoop de fucking do. They still fucking kick ass live.
Blackened death metal? Seriously?
Zilty’s right that it doesn’t matter who you tour with… but he’s dead fucking wrong about them being scene just because scene kids like them. Sure, they were influenced by SotS, but honestly, do you REALLY see much of SotS on ANY of their albums?? SotS had very groove oriented riffs that focused far less on technicality than their previous albums, and while I do love the album, most of the songs were pretty cut and dry. I can name probably 10 BDM songs off the top of my head that are more technical, faster and darker than any song off SotS…. for fuck’s sake, show me a song on any At The Gates album that discusses turning into a fucking werewolf and killing women and children (ala “The Blackest Incarnation”)… oh wait, there isn’t one… and oh wait, what bands do concepts like that remind me of… oh that’s right all the bands you listed before, especially the glaring omission on your blatant name drop occasion of fucking CARCASS.
Seriously, dude, I think you have a lot of good opinions and your elitism kills me sometimes in a good way, but cut the fucking pretension and realize that just because kids that like deathcore dig BDM doesn’t mean BDM themselves are deathcore (or br00t1l shitcore as you would call it). Actually go back and listen to Unhallowed and rid yourself of preconceived notions and you’ll see what i’m talking about.
Team Strnad!
i just spilled beer on my Nut sack
My only contribution to this: I added him to my MySpace on a lark and, if his status messages are any indication, someone needs to take his iPhone away from him. Permanently.
Manson is such a fuckin homo who ever listens to his gay ass music needs to fuck their own face…Black Dahlia Murder owns manson…
i second that. lol
Yea dude, Black Dahlia fucking rules, death metal that actually sounds distinguished compared to the 8,000 other shit bands out there, and Trevor needs to knock his freak show ass out…I hope he ODs soon so I can laugh at all of his, “fans” mourn and watch their makeup run
fuckin lol, i bet it was a joke
I don’t like either band, but I’m siding with trevor on this. MM just can’t take a joke or criticism of any kind, and he’s just a shit talker. It’s a very safe bet that Trevor could knock him out anyway.
Manson is a fucking junkie who is screwing all his fans over with his shitty shows every night. TBDM work their dicks off and put on a fucking awesome show every time iv’e seen them. Also i would wouldn’t doubt Trevor was provoked one way or another by manson or his creepshow fans before he made this comment. But i want to see this escalate into a steel cage match.
Pity a IED didn’t go off in the vicinity.
black dahlia murder are an awesome band and just a bunch of goofballs. polar opposites of manson… he has his big convoluted persona while BDM don’t take it seriously at all. i’m sure trevor was joking around as always and manson can’t take it
You can expect more out-of-character( HAHA) bs from Manson since he knows his time as a “rockstar” is short.
His popularity is dying a slow plodding death and he will try to stay in the limelight by making himself look like an ass to stir up news.
He is a smart guy, but his music sucks and he should just go away.
Manson can take lessons on how to rape Trevor’s face from this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_4-p2pZexM
The funny thing is, if Manson tried hitting anyone, he’d probably shatter a couple of his own bones without even bruising the other guy. A fight between him and the chick-dude thing from Attack! Attack! would be pretty funny…..screams, snapping bones, “OH THOP IT!”, slaps.
Fight of the century.
Thank you, my first good laugh after a long day.
I think if Manson got into a fight with his own limp dick, he’d lose.
He couldn’t – it’s permanently lodged next to his tonsils.
Hasn’t this guy been relegated to the county fair circuit anyway?
FUCK Marilyn Manson he looked like he was pregnant when he came to Indianapolis i left after his first homosexual song TBDM played and awesome show along with every other band there
“we’re wont to side with Trevor Strnad”?
I’m surprised it took this long for someone to complain about that.
What’s the problem?
I think it just sounds weird to him.
Look it up dumbass
Yeah, thats some pretty complicated english.
MM was easily the worst band of the entire tour. In Pittsburgh goddamn Mushroomhead kept me more interested than MM. Never again should a fuck like him be on the tour with such great bands, Slayer should have been given a two hour slot and MM should have been left off of the bill to sniff his O2. idk about any one else but i didnt pay money to watch anyone sniff O2, i pay to see some good music, which sadly MM was not even close to.
Rape? More like Statutory Ape!
ba-doom chisch!
JUST LIKE THE SONG TITLE!
Marilyn Manson is about as intimidating nowadays as Brokencyde. He should tour with them.
Black Dahlia Murder rules, though. “Nocturnal” was a great album.
Drama queens. They should get a reality tv show together.
this didnt actually happen
http://lambgoat.com/news/view.aspx?id=13176
Lol nice find.
if only this were actually true though……*daydreams*
More reason to love Black dahlia murder..
does manson realize that trevor is a dude?
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww
who will win when the unstoppable has-been meets the immovable who gives a shit?
The Black Dahlia Murder>Marilyn Manson
Saw him at Graspop….walked out of there after two minutes, it was quite embarassing to see hundreds of Manson-fans leave the field at the same time.
I saw him at Pittsburgh and pretty much the same thing happened, more and more people left as the set progressed. I was disappointed because I used to have a lot of respect for the guy and what he did, not so much music-wise, but he really did have a message at one point. Both me and my friend, who feels the same, almost got disgusted with Manson as the night went on. He really needs to get his shit together if he wants to retain ANYTHING he once had.
Alright everyone if you think ziltoid should be raped in the face by Marilyn Manson say aye!
Who cares about Manson. He sucks. He is gay. And his music is just horrible.
the comment about the oxygen machine, i saw korn recently and john davis did that same thing after every songs. coincidently both are a little (or alot) heavier in the belly then they once were.
wow i didn’t know marilyn manson was like aggressive but i knew he could F@#$ pretty good from heart shaped glasses but i didn’t know he would fight people
Straight up? Marilyn Manson= Washed up poser who acts more hardcore than he is.
Trevor=MeloDeathGOD
ooo man manson is so stupid he is a shit The Black Dahlia murder Rulz lol