THINK YOU’VE “HEARD IT ALL BEFORE” FROM MUDVAYNE? THINK AGAIN.
Friday, October 30th, 2009 at 1:41pm by Vince Neilstein
Full confession: I haven’t had that much of an interest in Mudvayne since The End of All Things To Come. Even then I wasn’t too into the band, but I’ve always enjoyed a few of their songs. When Mudvayne’s label came to us about premiering their new track “Heard It All Before” I was a bit skeptical, but this is probably one of the best Mudvayne tracks I’ve heard in a while and it’s certainly the heaviest. There’s a killer guitar solo, and Ryan Martinie’s tasty bass licks are right out front throughout as always. This song is definitely one of the more original tracks the band has penned in quite some time; it still sounds like Mudvayne, but not in the same heard-it-all-before way (pun intended) the band’s been recycling for years now.
Stream “Heard it All Before” below. It comes from their self-titled album which will be released on December 22.











tits
Yea i dono if their ever gonna get back to what they use to be lost n found was the last good album in my oppinion. i’m goin to play the killer bass licks of l.d.50 now to bring back the old memories.
Sweet!!!
pretty sick song!
This song is not very good. When you’re doing things as ill-advised as taking musical cues from early Marilyn Manson, it’s time to hang it up.
dude this song is sick. i think its time you hang it up you tone deaf jackass
I fail to see the Marylin Manson connection. This is almost, ALMOST, an attempt to get back to L.D. 50. Which is a good thing.
Hey don’t disrespect mudvayne by comparing them to someone as low as marilyn manson. who thinks he’s all cool cause he can sound creepy and dark. He’s a poser who sounds like he has cancer. He’s horrible and was the first to sing and be the way he is. Which is FAILURE. And people who follow him like “the messiah” are fuckin retards. Mudvayne kicks his ass so hard. He can suck elephant dick mudvayne ROCKS!
first to be the way he is? what about alice cooper,kiss,or for that matter screamin jay hawkins,considered to be the godfather of shock rock.get your facts straight then come back here and TRY to act like you know something.
and i know,it dosent matter how much some think alice and kiss suck…but to say mansons the first…come on.just stick with your mall metal dude.
Im sayin not looks wise im sayin his music. His type of singin. It sucks. im a good fan of alice and all. And of course i know that. Im just sayin. Of course he wasn’t the first to do the makeup and shit. Everyone knows this. Im just sayin. Manson cannot be compared to bands like this. Cause he sucks! Period. He’s unoriginal. And tryin to be emo and suicidal is the only way he’s getting attention. Because everyone thinks its cool to be “goth” or “emo” nowadays. Everyone forgot how to be themselves. So I know what im talkin about. I listen to more music than just metal. And i actually know quite a bit. Oh and another thing Alice and Kiss. They were actually being themselves and just havin fun rockin out. Marilyn Manson’s just lookin for fans and comes up with alot of bullshit. He had a FEW good songs but even those were rip off’s of other groups. So thats all I gotta say.
You are a fucking moron. Look Im not one to champion that hack marilyn mansons cause but comparing him to alice cooper and kiss? Really? Manson WAS the first to do most of what he did. You compared him to bands that had reputations for being “darker” and that painted their face… Better or worse Marilyn Manson sucked someones cock ONSTAGE… DURING A SHOW…. Yeah, as far as musicians go, I’d say he broached a first or two.
So dont act like YOU know what the fuck YOU’RE talking about, jackass.
And what cues would those be? Both acts use guitars, drums and bass?
There is no connection.
if anything, im hearing Pantera in there
I also heard Pantera in there.
Me three. Maybe from his time in Hell Yeah with Abbot?
if your musical prowess and experience comes from manson what the FUCK are you doing here? I hear you mummy calling :)
Chuggity-chuggity chug-chug.
So says Greg Tribbet. Leave the real music to Ryan and Matt.
yeah mothafukers, thats what im talkin about!
This is stupid. Its every bit as bad as I expected to be. I’m honestly not even sure why I gave it a chance.
you dont even know what your talking about. this song is sick. you obviously dont know know good music
Shouldn’t you be doing your math homework, jr?
Oh my god! You’re right! You’ve totally changed my mind! I’m quitting my job right now, and following mudvayne around the country, allowing their sheer greatness and technical prowess to lead me into virtual orgasm every night! Do you think you could lend me some jelly bracelets and fishnets? I just don’t feel like I’d fit in with the academics that listen to mudvayne regularly.
You know, I’m good with Mudvayne… but you’re funny. Like seriously, I’m laughing really hard. Not being sarcastic.
You have some serious issues if you think Mudvayne fans are about fishnets and “jelly bracelets”, wtf ever those are. First of all, if you have to dress a certain way to like certain music, your an abomination. Yes Mudvayne are very technical and an amazing band live. If you haven’t had the pleasure of attending a show then your the one who missed something spectacular. The whole reason they stopped wearing make-up was because people like you got the wrong idea. They don’t need a gimmick or some silly costume to play great music. In fact they’re one of the best groups of talented musicians to still be playing today. I’ll admit this song isn’t groundbreaking, but it’s still good. I was totally blown away by ‘L.D. 50′, one of my favorite records still. Everything from the music to the lyrics are absolutely amazing. Some of the best writing ever. But on the other hand, I know people who like ‘The End of All Things to Come’ much better. I think this is building upon those two sounds. Besides, it’s only one track. How much can you judge by a single?
Dude! I was totally being serious! You’re totally right, L.D. 50 is arguably the most technical, innovative record of our time! I don’t know how I could have possibly been so stupid to think that the fuckin ‘vayne was anything less than the greatest band of all time! Thank you sooooo much for opening my eyes to this masterful group of musicians that are so kind as to bless my ear drums with their heavenly tunes! Keep it real brah! See you in the pit!
hey, would you look at that. a humorless tool fan.
I have not had the pleasure of seeing Mudvayne live. And it is fucking killing me!
You are a dick.
jelly bracelets ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha etc again. WHAT THE FUCK are you doing on this site? If you don’t like it and you’ll never get it FFFFUUUUUCCCCKKKK OOOOFFFFF!!!!!! comprehende?
oh and p.p.s john, you’d be very, very surprised at how many academics listen to these sort of tunes. probably quite alot with higher I.Q’s than you ;)
I can see why he doesn’t like it. I like it. It just doesn’t sound quite like mudvayne though
Honestly, I’m surprised at how good it is. Granted, it’s not groundbreaking or terribly innovative, but it’s a good metal song with some good riffs, which is something I never expected Mudvayne to do again.
I do not understand why these haters always comment on this stuff if you don’t like it don’t listen. I wish I could meet you wimps in the mosh pit where I can prove to you why you suck. That song is badass. Mudvayne delivers yet again. Thank you for yet another great album. I am so exciteded
what kind of asshole needs to prove themselves in a pit. You’re probably the douchebags who show up and try to hurt people.
I wish i could meet you in 10 years, unemployed and alone, where I could prove to you why you suck, at lfe.
hahahahahaha yeah………..
It isn’t prove yourself in the pit its take out your anger in the pit. And no that is not the case I bounce and jam and have a good time and in 15 years never hurt anyone. The point i was trying to make was if your gonna listen to someones music and just dis it that is stupid. I don’t go on a backstreetboys site and dog on them. No because i dont want to hear it in the first place. By the way I work for ups and have for 7 years and have a wife and two awsome kids. Way to let your opinon fly fuckface.
I think most of the haters are the past lovers who are disappointed about Mudvaynes evolution from a really good, innovative band into this.
But they kept a little hope and listen to every new song but if the song is bad, they have to make an disappointed comment.
yeah, i agree
BWAHAHAHAHAHA! You are a poser.
The reason you’ll have to keep wishing that you could “prove to me why I suck in the pit” is because I’d rather have my eyes and ears removed than see this garbage live. I heard they’re having as sale on jnco jeans and bondage gear at hot topic, have fun!
THIS!!!
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!! Mudvayne has done it once again!
Much better then Beautiful and Strange but I think I heard the chorus in a Hatebreed song before.
And if these solos are really necessary is open for discussion.
Fuck y’all, this song is more than sick /,,/,
DIG IT MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!
It’s not LD 50 quality stuff, but it’s definitely a step in the right direction.
nice solo, but the song itself is pretty boring
Man Sounds like new mudvayne… As a huge mudvayne fan im torn… they have there ups and downs(pros and cons i guess you would say) Guitar solos- a huge plus. I think ever since the singer went to Hell Yeah and did his thing he lost some of his awesome melodies he was able to incorperate in past cd’s( end of all things to come, Ld 50, and Lost and Found) the rest of the band(like always-except id like to hear some more melody in the guitar too to help bring out those vocals a lil more) sound awesome… Well that was my rant. peace yo
This sounds like a crossover between Pantera, Meshugga, and the only real Mudvayne essence that’s in it is the tone of the bass, it doesn’t really sound like the Mudvayne I’m used to hearing
come on guys your lettin us down we all kno you can do better than this i wanna here more shit like on the LD.50 that shit was great
Nothing sounds like mudvayne until you hear the new shits, mudvayne aways change the way of their songs!!1!
Mudvayne rullez \o/
I like the solo parts. I’ll check this one out. LD.50 has always been a ‘guilty’ pleasure
Funny title. I feel like I’ve heard all of these riffs before…. in other songs. I’ll still give the album a chance but I havn’t liked these guys since A New Game. Too bad. I really felt that Mudvayne stood out among the mainstream metal bands. Heres hoping System gets back together and Tool gets cracking on some new material before the ice caps melt. Learn to swim!
tool?
Eh not to bad not the greatest work by Mudvayne but not to bad
Oh man….this…….is…………AWESOME!!!!!! Suck says there’s no sound like Mudvayne and he ain’t kidd’n!
Fucking sick .. and to the retards who said that thing about mudvayne coping tool. your a fucking moron. Tool had glass’s to look a picture that didn’t make sense and Mudvayne is using a black light .. just goes to show that your a fucking douchebag… I love mudvayne and the new game album wasn’t very good.. i enjoy the album but i can admit it is more of a sell out album but this new one is gonna fucking rock
english is obviously not your first language…
A lot of people are criticizing this. Where’s your huge selling albums? Where’s your tasty, revolutionary riffs? Where’s your nasty chops? Really I think this is a sick song and if you don’t like it then that’s great. But don’t act like you’re the be all and end all in the taste of Metal. You’re just some guy or chick writing in anonymity. Silly internet people and their overblown sense of self worth. Go rice.
we’re not saying we are better were saying other bands and mudvayne have done better.
and id say it to your face to i dont need anominity or whatecer
I’m not in a band, don’t claim to be in a band, will never be in a band just because I’m not talented but I do know over production when I hear it and that’s what this album seems to be turning out to be.
all of my huge selling albums can all be found at http://theswine.bandcamp.com/ THANK U 4 UR INTERST I MADE THEM IN MY LIVING ROOM I HOPE THEY ARE TO YOUR SATISFACTOIN
well I am a musician and I have the common sense to know better than to bag anything mudvayne does…. see if you can play it , then go ahead and give us your critique. :)
so what? you mean to tell me that the only people who are allowed to have opinions about mudvayne are people who can play their music? that’s probably the most asshole statement i’ve ever heard. and that’s including all the asshole statements i’ve ever made.
regardless of whether or not i like mudvayne is beside the point – who are you and the douche fucker above to tell me that i’m not entitled to dislike mudvayne because i haven’t wasted my time trying to learn such br00tal classics as “dig” or sold as many records as them? fuck that shit and fuck you if that’s legitimately your opinion on the matter, because by that logic, the only musicians who are really allowed to think any band is bad are john petrucci and michael jackson, respectively.
and that’s something i think we can all agree is for the best.
i meant, “but that’s not the world we live in, and that’s something i think we can all agree is for the best.”
I have been a fan of Mudvayne’s since I first heard Dig and they really want the music to do the talking unlike Slipknot that are still wearing masks and asking fans to take them for just their music, It all an image and they all must get tired of playing the same songs over and over thats why they have slower songs like” World so Cold” “Happy” etc(slower meaning there are some harmonies)
Anyways we all have a right to complain as tats what humans do best and we do support them when we buy their albums, don’t like it? don buy it or listen to it
I think I’ve stopped feeling the power of the ‘Vayne ever since the New Game came out…. I’ve been and still am trying to get into all the stuff that came out after Lost & Found but it all just feels so-so…. all these kinda tunes just sound like stuff they’ve already done before. I like bands that keep exploring new territory.. maybe Mudvayne ain’t for me on the long run (which i dislike saying..)
Never dug this band, but their bassist is a monster player, and he sounds great here. He could do so much more with his talent, but hey, he’s probably not at his day job right now worrying about it! :)
to hell wiyh all the haters mudvayne you just keep pumpin out the hits and cant we all just get along and thrash to the jams so much violance …….lol
bland. i miss the old trippin out psychotic days.
yeah…not that good. sounds just like The New Game. i dont think we’ll ever get nething close to LD50 again :(
Mudvayne has lost all of their originality and it’s a real shame. This record seems heavier than the last, but it doesn’t seem like music I would have a desire to listen to (which I hate to say) because their first 3 releases were flawless.
totally agreed and the new game was a piece of shit. hopefully this wont be as bad as that album.
Yes, the new game was a major disappointment. I went to see them in portland oregon when they were touring with snot and 10 years. It was the new game tour and they only did on song off of the album. It was an awesome show. About a week after that show, the new game was released and my heart absolutely sank. This was an overly produced faux metal album and by far their worst project yet.
The music for the new game was amazing but Chad’s lyrics and vocal style has turned them into something close to Nickelback. Fucking Nickelback!
I saw them on that same tour. Chad hit all the higher vocal stuff just like on the album. I was pretty impressed with their live performance.
I think the new game was their 3rd best album….with lost and found being the worst, all the songs on that album sound almost the same and chad didnt really have any good melodies his voice sounded the same on that whole album…I actually was pleased with where they were heading with the new game, it was some great song writing
this CD is going to kick some major ass. :P
omg!!! mudvayne is still kickin ass and always will!! fuck yes!! great new song..metel f. cant wait for the new album, IT COMES OUR ON MY BIRTHDAY!!! hahahaa, fucking sweet!!……
This is one step towards slipknot for them.
Ok, I have been a huge mudvayne fan since the get go and I can tell you, with the last two releases, i have been truley disappointed. I have seen Mudvayne live several times (everytime they come through my area) but I don’t think I will be able to go see them again until they pick it up. I don’t like the direction that they are going.
Hey all why are we fighting like we are arguing over shit like whether we like Cleine Dione or the Backstreet Boys?
At least Mudvayne play their own music
I’m not fighting with anyone. I’m just stating my opinion. I do agree though, atleast they play real instruments and Chad actually sings. I know this is an immensely talented group of men, I just think they have become way over produced and washed out. When I say washed out, I mean you can’t hear the raw talent. I would give anything for them to produce another death blooms or -1.
well put
I like the song they have on their website “beautiful and strange”. But this one I don’t like as much, it doesn’t suck I could listen to it, but I never liked gregs solos, and this seems like one of the simplest mudvayne songs I’ve heard, the song sounds mostly the same the whole way through, and I’m not pleased.
so far i think ive got this album…its called lost and found, their worst album. so far the new songs sound exactly like the songs from that cd. Im really disappointed. I think they just had a few songs they didnt put on that cd and looked back and said hey, lets put those on a cd……RIP OFF….cmon mudvayne im one of your biggest fans. You guys keep taking a step forward then a step back. Maybe im looking too far ahead that all the new songs are going to sound like this but im not holding on to hope….
Wow there are so many opinions and most of them haven’t clue, Lost and Found is most deff the Best well rounded so far to date!! This new one is just a continuation of how great Mudvayne really is, Keep it going boys don’t stop now !!!!!
Not as strong as some of their earlier material, and I liked Beautiful and Strange just a bit better. Always have loved Mudvayne, though The New Game wasn’t a particularly outstanding cd. You can’t expect a band to continue to repeat the exact same sound and truly be successful, regardless of who it is.
I have seen them live and thought the show was well worth the trip.
I for one, will continue to support Mudvayne, because I love a good rock band and they piss off they upstairs neighbors, which is a plus because I despise drunk fratboys who think every weekend is an appropriate time to play rap at 4 in the morning. If they would listen to Mudvayne upstairs, then they would not have the cops at their door telling them to shut that stupid shit off and writing them a noise pollution ticket. Heh. I love making assholes pay fines for listening to garbage over my head.
I’m a true ‘vayne fan but I have to say, I don’t much care for this song. I did like the Beautiful and the Strange but this one is a little bland for me. Honestly, what I always liked about Mudvayne were the LACK of guitar solos and the massive funk overtone in Ryan’s bass. I feel since The New Game, that’s been sadly lacking.
I also miss the absolute deliciousness of the trippy lyrics found in LD and End of All Things.
A band does have to grow and evolve and they can’t sound the same forever. I will always remain a Mudvayne fan, but I think they might have evolved themselves too far from what made them great in the first place.
Perhaps they’re too happy with their wives, nice cars and plenty of beer to write the angst anymore! Oh well, I’m sure we all wish we had those things!
Love you forever guys!
While it doesn’t follow their been-done-to-death formula from the past two albums, it’s still not that good. Whoever above referenced Marilyn Manson is pretty right on.
Glad you see where I’m coming from. This song sounds like it was pulled straight from a movie soundtrack from the mid-90’s. The irony of the song title alone is fucking cringe-inducing.
eh this was shit, and to think i looked forward to mudvaynes new album..
THIS WAS A WASTE OF FUCKING TIME TO MAKE! THEY ARE TRYING WAY TO FUCKIN HARD IT PISSES ME OFF! THEY CAN DO BETTER THAN THIS SHIT! THE SONG WAS THE SAME FUCKING BEAT OVER AND OVER AND IT WAS FUCKING DULL! I DONT THINK THIS CD IS GUNNA BE THE SHIT BY THE LOOK OF THIS SONG!
Im a big fan of mudvaynes my favorite band of all time. The End Of All Things To Come album by far the best album they made. Thats just me. I have been listening to mudvayne since they came out but I like all their music. If you dont like mudvayne well to bad good music for damn sure ryan is the best and most technical bass player. But for sure mudvayne music may of changes but i still like it all.
Bad ass, back to being heavy. Let the haters hate, you know that on some other message board another hater is hating on their favorite band and they are dending them relentlessly. God knows I don’t have the time or desire to go listen to some band I don’t like and comment about how much they suck. Stay metal Mudvayne, I’ll always be a fan.
“tasty bass licks”
again…
“tasty bass licks”
Thank goodness this came out. Two good songs from the new album and it sounds less and less like “The New Game”. I appreciate what they have tried to do but that album had too much Hell Yeah’s influence.
Sounds like they have taken some notice to Chevelle’s new album…….when you have found your sound keep with it.
Awesome f#*cking song!
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON? WHAT IS THIS IS THIS A……..UMMMM BAD DREAM?? I AM ONLY MUDVAYNE….THIS ISNT YOU GUYS ……….WHOS IN CHARGE HERE:?
keep hell yeah out of mudvayne guys geez
Its soooooo close to being good.
Mudvayne’s not supposed to have guitar solos =/, but I like the sound of the bass and drums in this song. it sounds more familiar to mudvayne.
I don’t think you’d even have to read the article to know it was about mudvayne. Just check the grammar quality in the comments. It’s like I’m reading fucking blabbermouth or something.
this shows who the real mudvanye fans are. first of all, you people need to understand the way mudvany makes music. if they gave a shit about what you people think then every album would be an LD50 but if you noticed, each album is unique a d different in their own way. thats mudvayne’s style. they are always trying something new and their not afraid to step into new ground. if every album was a LD50 with the same face paint then you might as well call them slipknot. don’t expect the new stuff to be anything like the old stuff because thats not what mudvayne dose.
oh and the band members are getting old. people mellow out as they get old so newer music isn’t going to be as heavy as the older music. hey, the intelligent people will understand what im saying and the dumb asses are going to keep going on and on about how mudvayne will never be the same same since the music sounds different then their old stuff.
its all right, but i am dissappointed in mudvaynes last album and afraid i maybe in this one too, i dont know if its that the are older or have money and not struggling, or going through the shit calle dlife that made the first thre albums good, with ld50 being the best, it was craeted from some real deep seated mental anguish and had a lot put into, i love the badn and the music more than most, but it seems likeit has become to repeatitive. hope that this new record isnt something i have heard before
sweet baby shiva….i love this band…
Haven’te heard the new track yet (will in a second) but I loved “The New Game”. My absolute favorite Mudvayne Cd. I know I am in the minority here but I love it. “Fish Out Of Water” is AMAZING.
I heard “Beautiful & Strange” and thought it kinda sucked. That song sounds EXACTLY like “The New Game” stuff. Which yes, I loved, but wanted to hear somethign different from them.
I hope this song is amazing. Either way I really enjoy Mudvayne and will buy their new CD.
:S not what i expected but a great song.x)
I saw mudvayne in 05 it was great never though id hear them go back to a little bit of the original sound but I like it and yes mudvayne sounds as good live as they sound on cd.
mudvayne sold out and now are trying to get back to what they were because of all the shit they were given! my response…. eh
Like an idiot ill probably buy this alum like all the other ones and realize i’ve yet again wasted 20 or so dollars on a band i used to really love, that cant seem to satisfy me anymore. It’s almost like a real long term relationship………… You love the person, and you want them to be happy and spending time with them is great but…….. While you’re in bed together you find yourself thinking of someone else or a younger version of that person just to get through. Cuz I know while i listen to Mudvayne Lost And Found or The New Game I find myself thinking of a younger version that used to be wayyyyyyy more technical using off times and things of the like. I think they cant find their way back. And Chad should have never done the hellyeah stuff. it’s really changed his vocals. MuDvAyNe Please Please Please come back to us!
all you possers and johnny come lately fans let the bans evolve thats the great part let them be who they are not who we want them to be if you cant deal with that then go f yourself i thought lost and found and the new game was some of their finest work and the new stuff is set up to top that but not gonna beat them up over stuff i dont like just gonna sure as hell enjoy the stuff i do from one of the most amazing bands ever
It’s true. Even though this is the best song they have released since 2003 or so. it’s still not even close to LD 50 or the end of all things to come. People can say all they want that they need to progress and can’t put out LD part 4 and 5 but that’s what the fans want. most of their shit is very bland and will appeal to disturbed and half ass hard rock fans. they write straight forward songs now which is fine. one of my favourite bands is corpse and even though they progressed, they still stuck to their original game plan. but to be honest, i haven’t listened to mudvayne much since 2003 but it would be great if they went back to some odd time signatures and heavy ass songs. everything sounds weak and i am not a fan of chad’s new singing/screaming.
why do you think meshuggah, corpse, slayer, opeth, dark tranquillity, darkane, nevermore, amon amarth (just to name a few) have die hard followings? because they progress but they do not transform into a totally new band. it’s why in flames, soilwork etc.. have really pissed off fans like myself. you buy everything a band puts out and then they completely change their sound and write watered down shit like the passion is gone. if you really want to transform and explore new territories so much, at least release it as a side project
i’m a die-hard mudvayne fan. i’ve seen them 7 times, and they are truly an outstanding band live. there seems to be a lot of hating on their last album, and i wonder why. yes, it wasn’t the trippy, psychoanalytical lyrics of LD 50, but if ‘vayne had made their next albums with the exact same sound, it would have bombed. the bands that last change their sound as they grow. if the beatles had still been doing pop music in the late 60’s, they would have ignored and forgotten.
also, i wonder what was soooo wrong with The New Game? scarlet letter, same ‘ol, fish out of water, and a cinderella story were excellent songs. and have it your way was one of the most blistering criticisms of the bush administration i’ve ever heard.
i, for one, plan to pick this album up the day it drops, and i will definately be going to see them for an 8th time.
This track kicks ass. However I didn’t expect Mudvayne to be back in the studio so fast after The New Game.
I wish Godsmack would do the same thing soon.
sweet
i=I was in the studio when this album was being mixed and the two producers -Jeremy Parker and Dave Fortman are good friends of mine as well as Mudvayne, this Album is song for song the BEST ALBUM by them Hands down several number 1 singles are definitely a sure thing.
By the way chazzy69 Godsmack is in the studio right now with Dave Fortman and the album is starting recording Monday.
T.Moody
Personally i think that all mudvaynes cds sound different. from ld 50 to the beginning of all things to end, to the end of all things to come, to lost and found, to a new game, and now this.. i love mudvayne alwas have since i was in 4th grade, and even though im a senior in hs now they still blow me away with their live show, with their new music.
Why does everyone bash each other on here? Christ, it’s metal. Enjoy what you will.
Anyway, this song is alright. Not L.D. 50 by any means, but its not horrible.
dude this song sucks. the only good mudvayne shit was L.D. 50.
this song is bad ass.Ive been a Mudvayne fan since 99 when they did their first tour with Slipknot. I do agree when hes not yelling he reminds me alittle of manson. not a bad thing.. this song still kicks ass though.
Its an ok song, but I’m not completely impressed. I do like how I see similarities between LD 50 and the new game in this song, but I guess I’m one of few who like what Mudvayne has progressed to, more than I liked their older music. dont get me wrong, its all good, I’m just sayin…\ this song seems to me like Mudvayne is trying to please the LD 50 fans…. Idk, it just doesn’t sound like mudvayne to me. however, I thought that beautiful and strange was from the mudvayne I know and love.
when I say “trying to please the LD 50 fans” I mean trying to please the people who bitch about their newer music.
Totally cracks me up to read that the band has sold out or this new music isn’t as good as the old music. Music evolves, as it should. I have favorite songs and not so favorite ones, but to say a band sucks or has sold out is just stupid. Listen to the music you enjoy and don’t listen to the stuff you don’t like…pretty simple, if you ask me. Just my humble opinion. Mudvayne is amazing live & I look forward to seeing them soon.
Peace.
Nothin special. perfect title because we have heard it all before. that last release was tight though. I dk why people didnt like the games sound so much. I love how they went to little more good old rock sound on the drums and everything. And now back to the click bass drum. whatever, I’ll still buy the album guys. so far so good.
I DIG this, it’s another step in the right direction. Aggression is good.
these dudes have had their 15 minutes, time to shut the book.
i found this song bland as fuck.
Thank you John for noticing that academics are fans of Mudvayne… I have a Master’s Degree and it made all the difference in my ability to understand and enjoy Mudvayne… Wow with your powers of perception are amazing… You should become one of us…………..
Not impressed. Not saying all the songs on there last album were bad or the ones on this one will be but haven’t been impressed in a while.
It was a decent song, but Im still waiting for L.D. 50’s sequel.
This record is turning out to be so much better than their last 2 albums. I’m pretty excited.
its not old mudvayne but thank god its not “new mudvayne”! …………its a start. LD 50!!!!!!!
First off, the song is pretty good; nothing groundbreaking, but quality stuff.
Secondly, why does everyone and their brother seem to think LD 50 is this seminal album that everything needs to judged next to? I loved LD 50, but it isn’t even the band’s best album; that honor would belong to The End of All Things to Come. LD 50 was great because it was unique, twisted and raw, but it was still immature and unpolished. The songs on TEOATTC (awful acronym) were far more complete, great full songs instead of bits and pieces of greatness next to mess. Maybe I’m the only person that likes Mudvayne that thinks this, but I don’t want them to revert back to an album like LD 50; I think they are way past that musically; to return there would be a step in the wrong direction. Just to put it out there, I also liked Lost and Found; although I admit it was a bit poppy. The New Game was definitely boring and uninspired.
I think Mudvayne is definitely overlooked by musical snobs/elitists, especially in metal circles. I think most of these people who hate on the band constantly and make sweeping generalizations have heard about 3-5 songs in the band’s entire catalog. They base most of their hate on what they think is the “prototypical Mudvayne fan;” a teenage goth/nu-metal aficionado who dresses badly, hates the world, and has gained all of his musical knowledge from a Hot Topic store. I have seen that type of generaliation made here in the replies to this post, and it’s really weak. I think a lot of people would be into the band if they gave them a fair chance instead of immedialty pigeon-holing them based on stupid assumptions. The band is actually quite technical, unique, and far more mature than people give them credit for…and the band’s fans are – like the fans of most bands – actually quite diverse.
hey go to a mudvayne concert and you see who the real fans are. i will tell you its not the “teenage goth/nu-metal aficionado who dresses badly, hates the world, and has gained all of his musical knowledge from a Hot Topic store,” doubt they could survive at such a concert, but it is a well mixed age group of differnt types off people, most above the age of 20 and even some above the age of 40. many so called “metal bands” cant even grab an audience above the age of 20 so their fans lable them as underground and say they have not sold out like the rest.
I know and agree that a real Mudvayne fan isn’t a ““teenage goth/nu-metal aficionado who dresses badly, hates the world, and has gained all of his musical knowledge from a Hot Topic store,” I just think a lot of people have unfortunately came to this incoorrect conclusion about Mudvayne fans, and thus have also used this to discredit the band’s music. :/
I know Mudvayne has sort of moved all over, I think L.D. 50 owns it all, but at least this is sounding better than shit like Lost and found, the new game was slightly disappointing too. Still a big fan of them
Totally, Bitchin!
I’ll give this band a high-five for staying [somewhat] relevant. They haven’t dropped off the Earth like so many nu-metal bands. And that was a coo-lass solo! Something the ‘Vayne isn’t known for. All I’m trying to say is, good for them for trying.
wats with all the hating on manson? everything from the golden age of grotesque back was good, his new stuff is not anywhere near as well-done (but then again he IS in his earley to mid 40’s now so wat can you really do about i?) i dont think that mudvayne is reaching for l.d. 50 in this alum, they realize that they cant really attain that again but they can still get the feel of end of all things to come
Love MUDVAYNE always have, enjoyed the song and can’t wait till the 22nd …..Oh and love it or hate it, fine whatever but for all the Whinny Fucking babies who can’t stop bitching and bashing just fuck off already …GOD DAMN
Mudvayne is band of variation. They suprise me every time. They now the key to songwriting en fucking core shit. Respect
They’re well on their way to being Mudvayne, without repeating themselves. This is the first time they’ve showed a little influence from Pantera. I think its a pretty good song.
They fucking rule and there could never be another that has the same sound….we only got a 45 second clip, has anyone listened to only 45 seconds of any of their other albums?…..I guarantee you we’re all in for total amazement once again….can’t wait !!!!!! and you backstreet boys should probably go curl up in your blankets. if you don’t like it THEN FUCKIN GO HOME ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Mudvayne quite possibly one of the best with the exception of for the people by the people (king of pain and dull boy were good) and the new game (scarlett letters) they have always put out good music and this is almost as good as dig or death blooms or even determined so you mudvayne bashers and mason lovers put the dick back in your mouth and shut the fuck up
So far this album is getting watered down. I think having a back-to-back album release within a year is to quick.