ANYONE WANNA LISTEN TO PANTERA WITHOUT LISTENING TO PANTERA?
Wednesday, November 4th, 2009 at 10:30am by Axl Rosenberg
Pros and cons of streaming the new Throwdown album, Deathless:
PROS
- As is so often the case with Throwdown, they sound an awful lot like Pantera. And that band’s argument that Pantera were AWESOME, so why wouldn’t you want to sound like Pantera?, is a valid one, as long as you don’t place too high a premium on originality. So, like their last album, Tears & Venom, Deathless is a forgettable, but by no means horrible, confection for those of us who are still mourning the loss of Dimebag.
- The dudes in Throwdown, at least in my very limited experience with them, seem like nice dudes, and there’s something to be said for supporting nice dudes in an industry full of d-bags.
CONS
- For at least the second record in a row now, the band is working with producer Mudrock, who also worked on a lot of Godsmack albums. And now vocalist Dave Peters is starting to sound an awful lot like Sully Erna – who I fucking hate. My Pantera never needed a dose of Godsmack, fuck you very much.
- It’s the least heavy Throwdown album ever. I know that it’s really a cliché to bitch about a band becoming less heavy, but it’s not like Throwdown were ever gonna be Muse – either write an honest to goodness awesomely catchy radio hit, or go back to creating music that makes me wanna punch an adorable monkey in the face.
- It sounds exactly like Pantera – and we have to place at least some value on originality, don’t we?
Deathless comes out November 10 on E1.
-AR
sellout
Throwdown are to Pantera what Godsmack is to Alice in Chains
Oh, and I see they took a screenshot of Slayer’s Eyes Of The Insane video.
after this comment, i’m never gonna bother to read the rest below.
pro: album art
con: it’s throwdown…
Imagine if Pantera were straight-edge and Dime never played solos.
I’m not sure which concept you mentioned is more against nature…
I’m not gonna listen to this after the bad experience with Venom & Tears.
yah i agree…haymaker was an awesome album for a HARDCORE band…then vendetta was a good metalcore album….then venon and tears and now deathless WTF?
Just riding hatebreed coattails
Raise your fist in the air drug free…
I listened to the first 2 tracks on their myspace and I appreciate them trying to evolve by playing somewhat complicated riffs and some fun drumming but come on Peters YOU ARE NOT PHIL ANSELMO OR RANDY BLYTHE. I loved their first record Haymaker so much and it pains me to see them not sounding like themselves. Guess I am going to be listening to The Faceless all day again….
Haymaker was NOT their first record.
Nothing Throwdown has ever down has been very original so what’s the suprise here?
You are insulting Pantera. Please stop doing this. You are making yourself look like an asshole and everyone associated with this website look like a HUGE bunch of assholes.
I beg the editors to stop letting your writers take steaming dumps on Pantera’s name. Plus, you are making me hate Throwdown when I am usually only mildly irritated by them.
Thank you,
All Metal Fans Everywhere Who Have A Brain In Their Head
This album is a straight 6/10 if I ever did see one.
It’s a shame too, because they are pretty fun live.
Fuck originality! there’s no need for it in this world anymore!
Even though their live shows our a blast and their jams are aggressive and fun in that tongue in cheek kind of way, the fact remains that Throwdown is still a bland, run of the mill tough guy, straight-edge metallic hardcore band (even if the tough guy part is a joke as well). The entirety of “Haymaker” consisted of the same lyrics written 13 different times in slightly different ways, and although they’ve strayed away from the sXe image and infused more of that southern, Pantera-like sound, they’re still boring old Throwdown. I enjoy them for what they are; mindless breakdowns and pointlessly aggressive lyrics, but reviewing them just seems like a moot point at this juncture.
I’ve listened to this entire album a couple of times already, and it’s actually worse than it’s described as being above. Not only are they ripping off Pantera (that’s expected), they’re also ripping off Down and Mudvayne on this album. It’s really, really bad.
How can a band sound “exactly” like Pantera if their singer is sounding more like Sully Erna? Those concepts are mutually exclusive.
Pantera I never got into, and Throwdown do just as little for me.
Why do they still bother with them ‘parental advisory’ things? No parents ever take notice of them anymore. At least, if they are to be used, they should be put on as stickers on the jewel case, not as part of the album art. There was another album some time ago, I forget which, that had a nice cover art I quite liked that was ruined with a ‘parental advisory’ logo stuck on the corner. Any expressive qualities and whatnot expressed through the artwork are killed stone dead.
Plus, imo, the sticker stands out more than when it’s part of the actual cover.
How can a band sound “exactly” like Pantera if their guitarist doesn’t incorporate shredding, dive-bomb solos? Again, mutually exclusive.
Seriously, I’ve always found them to be influenced by, but not a rip off of Pantera (with a few exceptions scattered throughout).
Okay, one backpedal: The song “Skeleton Vanguard”: yeah, damn close rip off.
That song really does go a little too close for comfort
I think it sounds alot like Lamb Of God, and In Flames on “The Soundtrack To Your Escape”.
I’m only on the first song though.
Ok. yeah on track two he does sound likky Sully Erna.
Not good. In fact, track two MIGHT IN FACT NE GODSMACK.
…and Five Finger Death Punch
THROWDOWN were a GREAT hardcore band.. Now they have changed their sound all thanks to the Singer realizing he sounds a bit like Phil Anselmo… He has ruined a great band.
nobody “sounds” like Pantera. no one should ever be compared to Pantera.
Damn, where’s Biff Tannen at??? I figure if someone even mentions Pantera in a reply he’d come screaming into the mix! But for the record…Fuck that guy in his over-stretched asshole.