I am on the fence about this song. Its OK and the video is meh. Bored with the same FF riff over several records.

I like FF but found the song and video rather boring

I like(d) FF, but I think it’s pretty safe to assume that neither Dino nor Burton can boast a long list of academic credentials beyond high school (or GED).

That this band is on the cover of the new Decibel is surprising. I read their reviews and they hate anything that sounds like this. I can’t see how this band is relevent. This sounds very tired, uninspired, and it’s boring. And the vocals are more nu-metal then anything else.

I’m always on the fence with FF. Sometimes, I really enjoy the style, and other times I can’t stand it. It was the the latter that found me watching this video.

http://www.metalsucks.net/2010/02/03/mechanize-a-thoughtful-review-from-a-person-who-actually-understands-fear-factory/

I was going to write a lengthy response to you Axl, but your co-worker wrote a solid review of the album and pretty much sums up how I feel about the “new” Fear Factory.

Soul of a New Machine, Demanufacture and Obsolete are fantastic albums (Demanufacture being their best album and that will not change IMO). Concrete is raw as hell but it’s still a cool album. The rest are pretty weak and I never listened to them more than once through.

I do not entirely agree with what you wrote about the video really but that doesn’t matter. We are all allowed opinions though. Love the site overall though. You are now on blabbermouth status where I check each site 5 times a day ahha.

i fully understand what axl rosenberg is saying when he says that what ever he says will be written off as race driven or even as bad as being pegged as the guy who “plays the race card”.

course these tactics are often used just to quash any persepectives regarding “issues”, or for some people they just are too lazy to deal with histories and fail to see how signifigant they are to our existence today. then there are those people who feel that we should all just get along and forget the past, live in the now.

how i know this is that i run into these attitudes with coworkers and fellow students, when discussions fall on native americans( im native american), i for one have alot of oppinions on this matter, but for some, my message is often overlooked because they think and they feel that with what ever i say is biased and is out the window. i fully understand that yea people are biased, but when a topic is discussed there should be an oppurtunity for all perspectives to be heard, if all perspectives aren’t heard then whats the point, nothing new is learned and there is no room for progression from moving away from ignorance.

now back to what this article started with, people already have thier mind made up of certain people and this gets in the way of them to have a open mind to learn something newor to even listen to others, then they want to peg and label somebody to tottally discredit anything they say, regarding the “issues” that have the power to divide the masses.

That’s pretty fucking good. Reminds me of an updated ’80′s industrial music video. I am totally down with this.

I liked their first album when it came out. And the De/Remanufacture albums were pretty good too. Once they teamed up with Front Line Assembly’s Rhys Fulber they managed to “manufacture” a sound that was actually really friggin’ cool. Unfortunately they completely wasted it on tired, big dumb metal. Then they managed to up the dumb factor with call-and-response jock metal. I don’t think much of this band. They seem like a bunch of idiots who happened to stumble on a killer sound and then had no idea what to do with it.

The drumming on this track is pretty damn good. And at least it sounds like old guys trying to make a “return to form.” But, in the end, it’s still just big dumb metal.

Its kinda of funny that FF get called out for Nazi imagery yet I havent seen any articles about Manson doing it live or Slayer putting it on all there merch. Hell, I have a Slayer t-shirt that looks like a dead Nazi crawling out of a grave with the Slayer logo.

On the topic of the logo issue…

I “THINK” (capitals and quotes there people) that previous press and interviews stated that the term Fear Factory, whilst the band’s name, was also representative of the fear creating aspects of tyranny… so whilst the band was called Fear Factory, they are not themselves a fear factory, if that makes sense?

In that respect adding the logo to the military insignia makes more sense as the point is to fear thought control (the fear factory) and not the band Fear Factory.

Although, as you said, it’s pretty dumb to not realise that (if that is the point they are trying to make) it’s going to get almost entirely lost due to the confusing nature of their logo/name/concept triptych.

Is his name pronounced deeno or dino(saur) cazares cuz i read deeno

I think the MS guys forget to realize how influential Fear Factory are, and that Demanufacture is a classic metal album.

Good, but this is the Burton C. Bell band. How much face time did he have in the video compared to the rest of the band? He has run the show all along and when he has a temper tantrum the band breaks up, or in his words “reorganizes” or whatever. I have a lot of respect and awe for Gene’s drumming, but it my opinion it drowns out the rest of the playing on the album. Ray never did that. This might be one of their best albums ever, but it came 10 years too late. The world moved on.