WHICH IS BETTER, “GRINDCORE” or “DOOM”????

Thursday, August 25th, 2011 at 4:30pm by

I like to think of myself as a little more open-minded than the average metal fan. If you look at my Zune playlist, you’ll find everything from As I Lay Dying to Killswitch Engage, from Lamb of God to Pantera, right next to Chimaira and DevilDriver — a pretty diverse mix to say the least, right??! As you can see, I am always looking for new music, but at the same time my Zune only has a 512MB hard drive so I can’t just buy every new metal album on the Zune Marketplace!

With that in mind I need your help. I’m really excited to learn more about GRINDCORE and DOOM METAL, but tbh I don’t know a lot about either one and like I said I only have so much space on my Zune, so I am trying to choose which one I like better!

Which do you guys think is better, GRINDCORE or DOOM??? What are the best artists in each genre?? What exactly is the difference between the two????? Please add your comments to the discussion! (Just click on the “ADD A REPLY” button to add a comment)


GRINDCORE

From what I can tell, all GrindCore songs are basically this: a really really REALLY long sample from a porn or horror movie, then a really short song about buttholes, poop, cum, or some other grose subject. I think that kind of stuff is effing hilarious, so that is definitely a point in favor of GrindCore, but to be honest I don’t think many of the bands are good at writing songs!

I’m the kind of person who just says what I think and if people can’t handle it that’s THERE problem so I’ll just say what we are all thinking: why do GrindCore bands always play so fast?? Why can’t they have a few slow songs, or least some breakdowns every now and then??? Do they think it’s cool to be all, “ALL OUR SONGS ARE FAST OUR BAND IS NOT ACCESSIBLE, IF U DONT LIKE IT THEN UR A MAINSTREAMER WHO DOESNT LIKE EXTREME MUSICK”? I don’t care if it’s not the cool thing to say, I think GrindCore is too fast!

Meat Shits “Surgically Removed Vagina”– this song is about cutting a girl’s ‘vajayjay’ out and saving it (presumably so he can use it to fap later on). Like in one part it goes “I need more piss flaps / it makes me so excited / I shit out a stool.” Ummmm ok??! I guess that’s what people from Modesto are into lol. That’s kinda weird but whatever this song is sweet! #209

“Cock And Ball Torture” is one of the best grindcore bands I’ve found, because they have a lot of groove riffs like Lamb Of God, only with way more brutal vocals and the lyrics are not as dumb as LOG’s

 

DOOM

IMO, doom is metal that is like half hippie, half emo. The hippie part is that their songs are really long and slow like the Doobie Brothers or Grateful Dead (probably because when you smoke a lot of weed you lose track of time and space out, so you think that playing the same riff for 10 minutes is a good idea). The emo part is how their lyrics are always about being sad, suiciding yourself and other stuff that overweight teenage girls with low self-esteem and My Chemical Romance tattoos are into. Is it considered cool to be chubby, smoke weed and write “dear diary”-style lyrics?? IDK :(

As far as the music, IMO the biggest problem with doom is the lack of dynamics. The songs are all sooooo long and I feel like they just kind of go on forever! Sometimes I am like OMFGGGGG WHEN IS THEIR GOING TO BE A BLAST BEAT?! I dunno I mean I like slow songs when they are done right (like Avenged Sevenfold or 18 Visions) but omgggg I feel like doom songs are never going to be over!!! Is that bad?? haha

IMO a band should be able to play at least 3.5 songs in 10 minutes, but don’t tell that to “Skepticism”!! They’re like “IF IT’S TOO LONG/BORING, UR TOO MAINSTREAM!!” Um ok but explain why this song couldn’t be like 25% as long as it is???

This song by The St Vituses is called “Born Too Late,” and it is about how he wishes that he was a hippie, and how people point and laugh at him because of the way he looks. IMO they probably just think he is a homeless person, and that his band sounds like bar rock.

Which sub-subgenre is better, ‘GRINDCORE’ or ‘DOOM METAL’??? Which is better, slow music or fast music??? Why don’t GrindCore bands play more breakdowns? Wouldn’t Doom Metal be like 1000x more awesome if it had more blast beats??????

-Sergeant D.

Sergeant D. plays breakdowns and blast beats every day at Stuff You Will Hate.

  • Internet Hardass

    grindcore personally

  • Internet Hardass

    grindcore personally

  • Dental Damnation

    Grindcore is way much more better.

    Insect Warfare are easily the best with blistering attack and actually incorporate small moments of slower groove.

    Props to Brutal Truth as well.

  • Dental Damnation

    Grindcore is way much more better.

    Insect Warfare are easily the best with blistering attack and actually incorporate small moments of slower groove.

    Props to Brutal Truth as well.

    • http://www.facebook.com/alex.maskill Alex Maskill

      “…way much more better.”

      Sure. Listen to THIS guy.

      • Dental Damnation

        engrish?

  • Frank Mullen

    now I know you’re trolling sgt. d, your were very involved with the grindcore scene in your youth, spazz wrote an album about how much they disliked you. so this whole “I want to learn more about grindcore” is just an act so so you can make fun of it.
    fyi, nothing you posted is grindcore anyways.

    • c.bronson

      Blasted in Bangkok?

      • Frank Mullen

        what the fuck does hirax have to do with anything being discussed here?

  • Frank Mullen

    now I know you’re trolling sgt. d, your were very involved with the grindcore scene in your youth, spazz wrote an album about how much they disliked you. so this whole “I want to learn more about grindcore” is just an act so so you can make fun of it.
    fyi, nothing you posted is grindcore anyways.

  • Frank Mullen

    now I know you’re trolling sgt. d, your were very involved with the grindcore scene in your youth, spazz wrote an album about how much they disliked you. so this whole “I want to learn more about grindcore” is just an act so so you can make fun of it.
    fyi, nothing you posted is grindcore anyways.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eirik-Kjøs-Usterud/1067091137 Eirik Kjøs Usterud

    Sarge, you fanastic asshole. You’ll always be my favorite writer on this site, not to mention SYWH.

    Grind and doom are my favorite genres though <3

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eirik-Kjøs-Usterud/1067091137 Eirik Kjøs Usterud

    Sarge, you fanastic asshole. You’ll always be my favorite writer on this site, not to mention SYWH.

    Grind and doom are my favorite genres though <3

  • brandonmetal

    grindcore is definitely the metal subgenre i listen to the least.  i’m far more likely to go to a doom show.

  • brandonmetal

    grindcore is definitely the metal subgenre i listen to the least.  i’m far more likely to go to a doom show.

  • brandonmetal

    grindcore is definitely the metal subgenre i listen to the least.  i’m far more likely to go to a doom show.

  • James

    I prefer Grind, don’t really use the term “Grindcore”.

    Pig Destroyer, Agoraphobic Nosebleed, Nasum, Phobia, Wormrot, Brutal Truth, etc…..

    Doom in small amounts, for me it tends to get boring after a while.

  • James

    I prefer Grind, don’t really use the term “Grindcore”.

    Pig Destroyer, Agoraphobic Nosebleed, Nasum, Phobia, Wormrot, Brutal Truth, etc…..

    Doom in small amounts, for me it tends to get boring after a while.

  • axe vs throat

    grind is the SHIT brutaltruth magruderGRIND insect warfar n rotten sound…hmm o ya ed gein

    • andy

      Finally an Ed Gein mention.

    • andy

      Finally an Ed Gein mention.

    • andy

      Finally an Ed Gein mention.

  • axe vs throat

    grind is the SHIT brutaltruth magruderGRIND insect warfar n rotten sound…hmm o ya ed gein

  • axe vs throat

    grind is the SHIT brutaltruth magruderGRIND insect warfar n rotten sound…hmm o ya ed gein

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=6410765 Nick Benigno

    the st vituses

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=6410765 Nick Benigno

    the st vituses

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=515200062 Jon Buckley

    I have a 16 gig Zune Sarge.  Yours be ghetto.

    • http://twitter.com/Meemperor Matt P

      I have an 8 gig, although only half as good as yours it’s still 16 times better than Sarge’s. 

      • Douche Baggins

        You’ve got to be kidding me.  Zune’s are the laser disc’s of MP3 players.

      • Douche Baggins

        You’ve got to be kidding me.  Zune’s are the laser disc’s of MP3 players.

    • http://twitter.com/Meemperor Matt P

      I have an 8 gig, although only half as good as yours it’s still 16 times better than Sarge’s. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=515200062 Jon Buckley

    I have a 16 gig Zune Sarge.  Yours be ghetto.

  • Gasrocks

    sarge I want to eat a cheeseburger with you

  • Anonymous

    If you actually dig that Cock and Ball Torture song you should check out the first few Blood Duster releases. Str8 Outta Northcote and Yeest are super groovy stoner/grind albums.

  • Anonymous

    If you actually dig that Cock and Ball Torture song you should check out the first few Blood Duster releases. Str8 Outta Northcote and Yeest are super groovy stoner/grind albums.

    • Chalmers von Magnussen

      Good call dude, yay for yeest

    • Chalmers von Magnussen

      Good call dude, yay for yeest

  • Anonymous

    If you actually dig that Cock and Ball Torture song you should check out the first few Blood Duster releases. Str8 Outta Northcote and Yeest are super groovy stoner/grind albums.

  • Spanky

    It’s all about Doomcore, son. Check out Napalm Bride and Agoraphobic Paradise. Das some good shiz right there, yo.

    • MonochromicSound

      Shit, you beat me to it.

  • Spanky

    It’s all about Doomcore, son. Check out Napalm Bride and Agoraphobic Paradise. Das some good shiz right there, yo.

  • Spanky

    It’s all about Doomcore, son. Check out Napalm Bride and Agoraphobic Paradise. Das some good shiz right there, yo.

  • Chris Berseth

    Sarge, you are the main reason I keep coming back to this site…

  • Chris Berseth

    Sarge, you are the main reason I keep coming back to this site…

  • Thekillbot

    Grindcore wins. songs about poop and fucking corpses are awesome. anyone who disagrees is a pussy

    • Dred Furst

      What about songs about fucking corpses with poop?

      • Douche Baggins

        How about fucking poop with a corpses’ severed penis?

      • Douche Baggins

        How about fucking poop with a corpses’ severed penis?

  • SourDeez

    I’m not the hugest grindcore fanatic, but Pig Destroyer is one of my all time favorite bands. Probably because they have moments of pure grindcore, but most of their shit is really thrash on meth. As for doom, I’ve never really been able to get into it although the epic bands like Ahab and Thou are really cool.

  • SourDeez

    I’m not the hugest grindcore fanatic, but Pig Destroyer is one of my all time favorite bands. Probably because they have moments of pure grindcore, but most of their shit is really thrash on meth. As for doom, I’ve never really been able to get into it although the epic bands like Ahab and Thou are really cool.

  • SourDeez

    I’m not the hugest grindcore fanatic, but Pig Destroyer is one of my all time favorite bands. Probably because they have moments of pure grindcore, but most of their shit is really thrash on meth. As for doom, I’ve never really been able to get into it although the epic bands like Ahab and Thou are really cool.

  • Metalguy

    Said it before, but this shtick got really, REALLY old. Its not even funny at this point, its cliche

    • sweatdripsfrommyballs

      yeah agree with you brah, theres only so much one can put up with stupid pretentious hippies playing one chord for 10 minutes straight and dirty homeless bum lookalikes screaming and beating their instuments for 30 seconds, shit gets old really fast, its not even funny anymore. Sarge go listen to some real music like Enter Shikari or Asking Alexandria, least they know how to play more then 1 chord

      • Douche Baggins

        Yeah real music like Suiside Silence and Emmure brah.

      • Douche Baggins

        Yeah real music like Suiside Silence and Emmure brah.

      • mark d

        lol, pissed my pants…

    • sweatdripsfrommyballs

      yeah agree with you brah, theres only so much one can put up with stupid pretentious hippies playing one chord for 10 minutes straight and dirty homeless bum lookalikes screaming and beating their instuments for 30 seconds, shit gets old really fast, its not even funny anymore. Sarge go listen to some real music like Enter Shikari or Asking Alexandria, least they know how to play more then 1 chord

    • Trev

      Ya, Jokes become less funny when you hear the same one a few times a week, all year round.

    • Whoabro

      I hate to say it, but I agree. I usually laugh whenever I read Sarge’s posts, but this one didn’t even make me smirk. I think it’s time to space these out a bit.

  • Sporto

    Doom. Get YOB, those dudes destroy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ken.wilhelm Ken Wilhelm

    Talk about Apples VS. Oranges….These sub-genres couldn’t be any more different!  I’m a doom addict though, not big on grind.

  • Dred Furst

    GRIND.

  • Shredderovgnar

    Save the Zune space for some Doom bands. I never “got” grindcore. I guess you could say I never “got” 30 seconds of screaming about gore over guitars that have way too much treble in the mix, and no bass. If you are leaning towards the grind route at least grab some crusty d-beat instead.

  • Milroyborden

    ” If you look at my Zune playlist, you’ll find everything from As I Lay Dying to Killswitch Engage, from Lamb of God to Pantera, right next to Chimaira and DevilDriver — a pretty diverse mix to say the least” - that made me laugh my dick off.

    Pig Destroyer’s Natasha. That’s a grindcore band playing a long ass doom song.

  • Mitch K.

    Grindcore.

  • http://www.facebook.com/FlannelBastard Dylan Jones

    Doom for me personally, Dark Castle and Cough just blow me away everytime I listen to them, and Winter commands my attention like I’m a new born infant trying to figure what the fuck I’m looking at.
    Grindcore is really good too though, fucking love Rotten Sound, Brutal Truth and Primate to name a few.

  • Greg

    Doomgrind

  • Anonymous

    Considering the limited storage space, I’d go with grindcore. You could probably fit like a thousand songs. Especially if you include “You Suffer”.

    Also, I never heard of a Zune player but. I assume it’s like a Walkman or something? You should put old batteries in it, so that way the tape starts slowing down a bit. Then you get the best of both worlds cause it won’t be too fast for you.

  • The Gooch

    Why can’t we all just say both and listen to dISEMBOWELMENT?

    • Thekillbot

      FUCK YESSSSSSSS

    • Thekillbot

      FUCK YESSSSSSSS

  • http://twitter.com/vyrm j isaac

    i knew this was D when i read the title in my rss. no need to read another of his hypothetical trolls.

    • Guestlove

      yet there exists need to comment

    • Guestlove

      yet there exists need to comment

  • http://twitter.com/vyrm j isaac

    i knew this was D when i read the title in my rss. no need to read another of his hypothetical trolls.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Branden-Salah/100000730343151 Branden Salah

    Doomcore xD

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Branden-Salah/100000730343151 Branden Salah

    Doomcore xD

  • Jaw666knee

    GRINDGORE!!! check out fukin Wormrot sgt.

  • http://www.facebook.com/MCMXCIJOTA José Mendes

    lol.

  • http://www.facebook.com/MCMXCIJOTA José Mendes

    lol.

  • Jaw666knee

    GRINDGORE!!! check out fukin Wormrot sgt.

  • Entangledaeon

    This has been one of Sergeant D.’s finest

  • Entangledaeon

    This has been one of Sergeant D.’s finest

  • holy bad metal batman

    HAHAHA!!!!

  • holy bad metal batman

    HAHAHA!!!!

  • holy bad metal batman

    HAHAHA!!!!

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/TacticOgre TacticOgre

    Doom all the way. Haven’t read the article yet though, and something tells me choosing doom is gonna make me look like an ass.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/TacticOgre TacticOgre

    Doom all the way. Haven’t read the article yet though, and something tells me choosing doom is gonna make me look like an ass.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/TacticOgre TacticOgre

    Doom all the way. Haven’t read the article yet though, and something tells me choosing doom is gonna make me look like an ass.

  • Fred Durst

    Breakdowns are the leading cause of homosexuality in the western world.

  • Anonymous

    I’m laughing so hard at the Modesto link, my stomach hurts so bad. Way to go.

  • Anonymous

    I’m laughing so hard at the Modesto link, my stomach hurts so bad. Way to go.

  • Wilhelm187

    http://www.circleofdefeatgrind.bandcamp.com

    this is an entire grindcore album. if you get many albums like this you will have a far bigger selection of grindcore to choose from. But why pick one? that seems redundant. do an equal ratio by song length for doom and grind, so naturally you will have more grind but in case you get sick of it you have some nice doom.

  • Wilhelm187

    http://www.circleofdefeatgrind.bandcamp.com

    this is an entire grindcore album. if you get many albums like this you will have a far bigger selection of grindcore to choose from. But why pick one? that seems redundant. do an equal ratio by song length for doom and grind, so naturally you will have more grind but in case you get sick of it you have some nice doom.

  • Willkriss93

    My Dying Bride is one of the best doom metal bands of our time, with almost poetic lyrics. Doom metal is melancholic, but not in the same way as an emo band would be considered.

    Doom has a lot of diversity, and often includes violins and things like that.

    • ChuggaChuggaDeedlyDeedlyDoo

      Here’s to hoping MDB actually manages to do another American tour by the end of the decade…

      • Willkriss93

        I agree. MDB is on my list of must see bands before I die.

    • Rodríguez

      Not really. The name sounds like those emo bands out there, and the music is depressive even by Doom Metal standards. Not to mention, I feel they are too comercial. I kind of like them, but I wouldn’t put them as one of the best Doom Metal bands.

  • Willkriss93

    My Dying Bride is one of the best doom metal bands of our time, with almost poetic lyrics. Doom metal is melancholic, but not in the same way as an emo band would be considered.

    Doom has a lot of diversity, and often includes violins and things like that.

  • Andrew

    I realize this is a complete troll article (especially trying to say there is a Zune with a 512mb hard drive) but a great grindcore band would be Discordance Axis and a great doom band (actually death/doom but w/e) is November’s Doom. In case behind the troll aspect you really would like to try the genres out…

    • Ian Williamson

      nerd opinion

  • Ron Deuce

    I’ll help you out on the grindcore:

    Brutal Truth
    Pig Destroyer
    Phobia
    Magrudergrind
    Shitstorm
    Wormrot
    Afgrund
    Rotten Sound
    Discordance Axis
    Noisear
    Insect Warfare
    Napalm Death
    Relevant Few

    Just to name few.  I don’t enjoy the bands that employ frog farting as a vocal technique so the ones you posted don’t qualify

    No Doom for me, I don’t have that kind of time on my hands.

    • Shane

      you forgot Cemetery Rapist dude.

  • Ron Deuce

    I’ll help you out on the grindcore:

    Brutal Truth
    Pig Destroyer
    Phobia
    Magrudergrind
    Shitstorm
    Wormrot
    Afgrund
    Rotten Sound
    Discordance Axis
    Noisear
    Insect Warfare
    Napalm Death
    Relevant Few

    Just to name few.  I don’t enjoy the bands that employ frog farting as a vocal technique so the ones you posted don’t qualify

    No Doom for me, I don’t have that kind of time on my hands.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Aaron-Feigenbaum/720858223 Aaron Feigenbaum

    Doom is so much better. I don’t like grindcore at all. To me, grindcore just sounds like noise. The vocals/music are atrocious and the lyrics are even worse. Granted, some grindcore bands like Napalm Death write intelligent lyrics but they still sound like noise to me. Maybe it’s because I’m not a big punk fan which is where grindcore gets its influence from. Anyways, doom/doom-influenced bands like Kyuss, My Dying Bride, Katatonia, Black Sabbath (of course), The Sword, Candlemass, Ahab, Shape of Despair, Agalloch, Electric Wizard, Sleep, Draconian, Daylight Dies, Isis, Novembre, Pelican, and Alcest are all awesome picks IMO. Definitely check them out if you haven’t done so already.

    • andy

      Isis is doom?! Really? You be trollin’.

    • andy

      Isis is doom?! Really? You be trollin’.

    • andy

      Isis is doom?! Really? You be trollin’.

  • Victoria

    Doom. All the way. Go for Saint Vitus, Candlemass, and Church of Misery for starters.

  • Victoria

    Doom. All the way. Go for Saint Vitus, Candlemass, and Church of Misery for starters.

  • Anthony

    Do you really use a Zune?

    • Douche Baggins

      lol

  • Anthony

    Do you really use a Zune?

  • Justin

    there is really no excuse for that Skepticism song to be so fucking long though…

  • Justin

    there is really no excuse for that Skepticism song to be so fucking long though…

  • P-Jack

    i prefer grind, but more on the death metal side of things. Misery Index, Circle Of Dead Children, Maruta, Cephalic Carnage!

    • P-Jack

      p.s. grind is better when it is socially aware or about politics. Gore based grind bands with shitty production are what give that genre a bad name

    • P-Jack

      p.s. grind is better when it is socially aware or about politics. Gore based grind bands with shitty production are what give that genre a bad name

    • P-Jack

      p.s. grind is better when it is socially aware or about politics. Gore based grind bands with shitty production are what give that genre a bad name

  • P-Jack

    i prefer grind, but more on the death metal side of things. Misery Index, Circle Of Dead Children, Maruta, Cephalic Carnage!

  • P-Jack

    i prefer grind, but more on the death metal side of things. Misery Index, Circle Of Dead Children, Maruta, Cephalic Carnage!

  • P-Jack

    i prefer grind, but more on the death metal side of things. Misery Index, Circle Of Dead Children, Maruta, Cephalic Carnage!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Corey-Mitchell/660352330 Corey Mitchell

    1st three paragraphs + Modesto Wikipedia link = comedic gold. Thanks, Sgt.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Corey-Mitchell/660352330 Corey Mitchell

    1st three paragraphs + Modesto Wikipedia link = comedic gold. Thanks, Sgt.

  • http://earthlings.com Peter Singer

    Cattle Decapitation FTW
    Ahab FTW (because Funeral Doom > Doom)
    = m/

  • http://earthlings.com Peter Singer

    Cattle Decapitation FTW
    Ahab FTW (because Funeral Doom > Doom)
    = m/

  • MonochromicSound

    Doomcore is where it’s at, brah.

  • Balls

    Only good grindcore band : Rotten Sound

    Good Doom: Swallow the Sun, Insomnium, etc

    • Trux

      “Good Doom: Swallow the Sun, Insomnium, etc ”

      No Cathedral, Trouble or Candlemass ” ????

    • Trux

      “Good Doom: Swallow the Sun, Insomnium, etc ”

      No Cathedral, Trouble or Candlemass ” ????

    • HRUGHHHH

      how horribly wrong you are about rotten sound being good

    • HRUGHHHH

      how horribly wrong you are about rotten sound being good

    • http://www.facebook.com/ryanchristmastimeschwartz Ryan Schwartz

      Insomnium is melodic death there, chief.

      Also, Swallow the Sun is melodic death plus doom…

      But yeah, bands to add to everyone’s posts so far: Daylight Dies, A Storm of Light

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Seth-Jones/736964211 Seth Jones

    I enjoy grindcore quite a bit, especially with new bands coming out like wormrot and looking for an answer. Plus old bands are writing new stuff, Lock up and Ed gein both realeased new albums this year.

    Don’t know enough about doom to have an honest opinion but I will say I picked up the new disma album because of the good reviews it recieved and I found it to be pretty boring. 

  • Dario Sycco

    Grindcore all the way. All those other bands you mention are so mediocre, it hurts. I fail to see a musical diff between As I Lay Dying, Killswitch Engage or Chimaira.

    • Douche Baggins

      Pay the troll…

  • Dario Sycco

    Grindcore all the way. All those other bands you mention are so mediocre, it hurts. I fail to see a musical diff between As I Lay Dying, Killswitch Engage or Chimaira.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=9391234 Ryan Sean Heron

    doom. easily. fuck this stupid question. grind core is bullshit. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=9391234 Ryan Sean Heron

    doom. easily. fuck this stupid question. grind core is bullshit. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1303988250 Andrew Höwë

    One of the best doom metal bands is Novembre. Not only are they kickass doom metal, but they occasionally have death metal-esque passages. They have some songs that will be easier for you to get into as they have some shorter songs.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1303988250 Andrew Höwë

    One of the best doom metal bands is Novembre. Not only are they kickass doom metal, but they occasionally have death metal-esque passages. They have some songs that will be easier for you to get into as they have some shorter songs.

  • Xenthis

    Love both genres, but doom rules.  Mar de Grises I need not say more. 

  • Xenthis

    Love both genres, but doom rules.  Mar de Grises I need not say more. 

  • Xenthis

    Love both genres, but doom rules.  Mar de Grises I need not say more. 

  • Admiral Powerhaus

    Agoraphobic Nosebleed’s ‘Agorapocalypse’ is one of the best albums i’ve ever heard. Grab it, listen to it, and try to resist the immediate urge to go out and start booting children.

  • Admiral Powerhaus

    Agoraphobic Nosebleed’s ‘Agorapocalypse’ is one of the best albums i’ve ever heard. Grab it, listen to it, and try to resist the immediate urge to go out and start booting children.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=506137459 Chuck Wagner

    Grindcore because there’s clearly more pussy in Grindcore.

    • http://www.facebook.com/alex.maskill Alex Maskill

      See Kat Katz and Grace Perry. This guy speaks the truth.

      • andy

        Landmine Marathon is grindcore?

      • andy

        Landmine Marathon is grindcore?

      • andy

        Landmine Marathon is grindcore?

    • andy

      Fuck The Facts, Agoraphobic Nosebleed, iwrestledabearonce?

    • andy

      Fuck The Facts, Agoraphobic Nosebleed, iwrestledabearonce?

  • Douche Baggins

    With a gun to my head, I’d choose the bullet.

  • Douche Baggins

    With a gun to my head, I’d choose the bullet.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1552397263 Erik Emrick

    Doom Metal.
    I like GrindCore in small doses. It has it’s place as an alternative music genre, sure. As I’ve gotten older, I appreciate doom much more. Winter, Evoken, Shape of Despair, Corrupted, Altar of Plagues, Esoteric, Indian, Moss, Yob, Skepticism, and Urna. Check out Urna for sure.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1552397263 Erik Emrick

    Doom Metal.
    I like GrindCore in small doses. It has it’s place as an alternative music genre, sure. As I’ve gotten older, I appreciate doom much more. Winter, Evoken, Shape of Despair, Corrupted, Altar of Plagues, Esoteric, Indian, Moss, Yob, Skepticism, and Urna. Check out Urna for sure.

  • Calebzia

    you’ll find everything from As I Lay Dying to Killswitch Engage, from
    Lamb of God to Pantera, right next to Chimaira and DevilDriver — a
    pretty diverse mix to say the least, right??!

    um, actually no…that is the opposite of diverse

    • Rob

      lol, that was the joke…

  • Calebzia

    you’ll find everything from As I Lay Dying to Killswitch Engage, from
    Lamb of God to Pantera, right next to Chimaira and DevilDriver — a
    pretty diverse mix to say the least, right??!

    um, actually no…that is the opposite of diverse

  • Calebzia

    you’ll find everything from As I Lay Dying to Killswitch Engage, from
    Lamb of God to Pantera, right next to Chimaira and DevilDriver — a
    pretty diverse mix to say the least, right??!

    um, actually no…that is the opposite of diverse

  • headnuts

    Both of these ‘genres’ suck, just go get the new FFDP album, now that is some diverse muzik bro!!!

  • Dawsontaylor77

    Haha! Good noise up, mate!

  • Dawsontaylor77

    Haha! Good noise up, mate!

  • http://www.blodspor.com Lage666

    Rotten Sound!!! You should check out the earlier albums though (anything before Cycles), their former drummer Kai Hahto kicks so much ass I can’t believe it! The new albums are really good too, but can’t beat the old ones..

  • http://www.blodspor.com Lage666

    Rotten Sound!!! You should check out the earlier albums though (anything before Cycles), their former drummer Kai Hahto kicks so much ass I can’t believe it! The new albums are really good too, but can’t beat the old ones..

  • http://www.blodspor.com Lage666

    Rotten Sound!!! You should check out the earlier albums though (anything before Cycles), their former drummer Kai Hahto kicks so much ass I can’t believe it! The new albums are really good too, but can’t beat the old ones..

  • Woop

    Eh. Trying too hard. The only semi-funny part was the bit about how diverse your zune is.

    Maybe next time.

    • Sergeant D

      I actually agree. Oh well, nobody bats 1000, ill be back!

    • Sergeant D

      I actually agree. Oh well, nobody bats 1000, ill be back!

  • Marchosias

    Anal Cunt’s entire discography is about 2 MB and it’s like 500 songs.  Overall, I say grind is better.  There’s at least humor and entertainment, and if you don’t like the song, it’s over in no more than two minutes.  With doom, you have to have time to sit and listen or you’ll skip every track and miss the good part at the 15:37 mark of the song.

    • Marchosias

      I take that back, I only have the love song album on cassette and 40 more reasons to hate us is not included in that 2MB.

  • http://profiles.google.com/akashsky Akash Gura Goredo

    That question is non-sensical: as if asking you to choose between apple pie and meat pie – both are pies for dogsake!!
    You choose depending on your wants and needs.
    As for the question of doom or grindcore, it’s just METAL for dogsake! When I want to let loose, sweat the frustration of not having been able to swear at the idiot who forced his way though a red light and forced me to brake hard at the last junction to home, yeah, Pig Destroyer or any from Ron Deuce’s (very nice) list…
    At other times, when I need more composure and balance, My Dying Bride, Anathema, Paradise Lost, Yob, November’s Doom, Candlemass, Cathedral…
    But the comparison to emo..??

    Anyways, Andrew, j isaac and Frank Mullen are perfectly right: a fucking troll article whose author should be banned from writing such divisive prose again!

  • Trux

    Most of the time, Sarge`s trolling comes as organic and natural.

    This time, the trolling is pretty obvious and therefore not that funny.

    I cant help but feel that the Sarge tried too hard on this one…

  • Trux

    Most of the time, Sarge`s trolling comes as organic and natural.

    This time, the trolling is pretty obvious and therefore not that funny.

    I cant help but feel that the Sarge tried too hard on this one…

  • Anonymous

    You should check out Bring Me the Horizons, they’re one of the best grindcore bands around

  • Anonymous

    You should check out Bring Me the Horizons, they’re one of the best grindcore bands around

  • Anonymous

    You should check out Bring Me the Horizons, they’re one of the best grindcore bands around

  • http://www.facebook.com/hunter.starr Hunter Starr
  • http://www.facebook.com/hunter.starr Hunter Starr
  • Turkey

    I prefer progressive funeral grind, personally.

  • Anon

    Trolling mode engaged!

  • Anon

    Trolling mode engaged!

  • doctor cockinsons

    jfac called there doom metal album doom. how much more of a cross do you get between hardcore and doom 

  • mark d

    Idk what grind your listening to but those grind bands seem more like porno/gore grind. I tend to just listen to more original grind. (y’know, stuff thats influenced by napalm death) Most grind bands are lyrically based on political themes and social themes. Try Napalm Death, Terrorizer, Rotten Sound, Wormrot, Insect Warfare and Misery Index. The grind you displayed isn’t exactly “original grindcore.”

  • Aaron

    Do you really write for this site and not know the difference? Is this a joke? Is this why you design clothes for a nazi, because no one told you?

  • Anonymous

    Grind. The Red Chord, Swallow The Sun. One is fast, one is slow but both are good. (again) Grind. Fast. Cause that would suck. No.

  • Anonymous

    I really couldn’t tell anyone why, but it’s kind of annoying to have it referred to as grindCORE. Just somethin about CORE that doesn’t belong with good grind. GRIND will do just fine, thanks.

  • Anonymous

    I really couldn’t tell anyone why, but it’s kind of annoying to have it referred to as grindCORE. Just somethin about CORE that doesn’t belong with good grind. GRIND will do just fine, thanks.

  • DuValicious

    Two good bands: DonkeyBong and TreeNymph Slayers…… I leave u to figuring out the genres

  • Moose_knuckle

    I dont believe nobodys mentioned Electric wizard yet, I dont think theres any doom band that comes close to them. In terms of grind that i listen to its mainly, insect warefare, rotton sound, pig destroyer, magrudergrind, worm rot and napalm death

  • Itspuddingtimechildren

    Hell yeah, the three best grind bands along with Cephalic Carnage.

  • Henry_krinkle

    I have asked some cool doom bands like ESOTERIC, MOURNFUL CONGREGATION or EVOKEN about extreme doom metal and one of the questions was about grindcore and doom so i think you might be interested in what they had to say.
    Here is the link to my website with metal interviews – http://www.wewither.com/2011/07/extreme-doom-metal-interviews.html

  • Henry_krinkle

    I have asked some cool doom bands like ESOTERIC, MOURNFUL CONGREGATION
    or EVOKEN about extreme doom metal and one of the questions was about
    grindcore and doom so i think you might be interested in what they had
    to say.

    Here is the link to my website with metal interviews – http://www.wewither.com/2011/07/extreme-doom-metal-interviews.html 

  • Anonymous

    Holy goddamn titties. I have a Zune and I have all the bands he mentioned in his first paragraph on it. I am Sergeant D. There is no other explanation for this!

  • Noyfb

    Some grindcore:

    Noiseslaughter
    AssückG-AnxArchagathusCripple BastardsEnemy SoilMalicious HateIn DisgustParlamentarisk SodomiHarshExistenchDenak

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=11705980 Esty Domenicka

    It pains me to know that only ugly girls listen to both of these genres….

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=11705980 Esty Domenicka

    It pains me to know that only ugly girls listen to both of these genres….

  • Rodríguez

    Doom Metal. For me, the best metal genre. Is heavy, abbrassive, can be fast too, and the depressive atmosphere is unique.

  • Steve

    Doom Metal/Post Metal/Stoner Rock Whatever you wanna call it is what I prefer, but that’s just me, not even gonna get into other ppls comments, everyone’s an intelligent metal critic who’s opinion is always better then the person that comments b4…right…Here’s a list

    Isis
    Callisto
    Long Distance Calling
    Omega Massif
    Tephra
    Rosetta
    The Ocean
    Russian Circles
    Pelican
    Cult of Luna
    Mouth of the Architect
    Bossk