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Tour de Force

DO YOU REALLY LOVE FEAR FACTORY ENOUGH TO GO SEE THIS TOUR?

 Monday, February 8th, 2010 at 11:29am by

So let’s say you’re Fear Factory. You’re in the headlines a lot these days because your founding guitar player has returned to the fold and you’ve recorded an album that ranks with your best. You have to go do your first big U.S. comeback tour. Who do you announce as your support acts? How about Winds of Plague, Dirge Within, and Periphery?

Wait… what?

I think Periphery are just swell, but I wouldn’t advocate paying whatever a ticket to this tour costs just to watch them play a short set so early in the night you might not even make it to the venue on time anyway. Meanwhile, Dirge Within? Winds of Plague? Really? This is the audience Fear Factory wants to court?

I don’t understand this decision at all. This should be one of the biggest tours of early ’10, not something that makes all the band’s old-school fans groan and debate whether or not it’s even worth it to buy a ticket. I mean, you could obviously get to the venue late and just hope for the best, but unless you know the set times in advance – which is not always feasible – you could very well end up finding yourself watching Johnny Plague and whatever goth-y young woman is playing keyboards in his band this week.

Luckily for me, I don’t like Fear Factory, so I don’t even have to worry about this. But for those of you who are FF fans… weigh in with your thoughts below.

And who knows? Maybe you can just wait ’til Ozzfest to see Fear Factory.

-AR

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  • Facebook User

    dirge within fucking blows.

  • John

    Fear Factory makes poor decisons, who would’ve thought…

  • Ziltoid

    Fear Factory appeals to the same kind of people that shitty deathcore appeals to–simple-minded idiots. Thus, this tour is no surprise to me. But this is an excellent tour in my opinion, only because it prevents these shitty bands from jumping on the tours of better bands. Shitty openers are just so fucking annoying…

    • LEROYDRAGON

      Brutal Zilty, just brutal.

    • TheHangingBrain

      Since I like some Fear Factory and I’m far from a simple minded idiot, you can lick my taint right where the ball and crack sweat mingle into a Zilt-worthy stew. Bon Appétit!

      • TheHangingBrain

        Posted on the wrong comment, so maybe I’m a touch simple minded… but just a touch. And also, though I do enjoy some of their early stuff, I’m a bit let down with what the current line up put out. They can do much better.

    • SonOF

      I like Fear Factory, and I have a Master’s degree. I must be a closet mouth-breather (or a “simple-minded” idiot) Either that, or Ziltoid is making moronic assumptions again! yaaay!

      Don’t be upset because you were still swinging on your mother’s teat when “Soul of a New Machine” dropped. I was like you once: hard-headed and hating everything that was liked by more than a handful of people, going against the grain just to say I was, and generally being close-minded while preaching my uniqueness and superior taste. It didn’t work out; all I did was alienate myself from plenty of good music and good people. Fear Factory has toured with the likes of Sepultura, Machine Head, Sleep, Sick of it All, Megadeth, Brutal Truth, Cannibal Corpse, Cathedral, etc. etc (have you heard of these bands? I forgot that they may be before your time, or perhaps not underground enough for you). I really don’t think these essential acts would have toured with a shitty, trendy deathcore band; your comparison is idiotic.

      Back to the conversation at hand…as someone that enjoys FF, I also think this is a HORRIBLE choice of bands to bring around (other than Periphery, who are good, albeit a bit overrated, especially ’round these parts). There are so many better choices I can’t even name them all. When they tried to make a comeback the last time around (with “Archetype”), they played with some quality, proven bands (Mastodon, Chimaira, Lamb of God, SYL)…guess they are dumping that philosophy in hopes of hoping on the trendy-band express. :/

      • Ziltoid

        Speaking of moronic assumptions, what an idiotic, substance-less wall of text.

        • http://www.twitter.com/stabitha Stabitha

          Waah, reading is haaaard.

        • SonOF

          Plenty of substance there, dipshit.

          Gave you a list of the DOZENS of influential, important metal bands that toured with Fear Factory in the past, to strengthen my point that Fear Factory cannot be equated with modern shitty deathcore (as you did), since influential important bands don’t consistently take shitty bands on tour with them.

          Mocked you again for your close-minded , and your refusal to accept any music with even the smallest shred of commercial marketability.

          Discussed who FF toured with last time they made a “comeback” (for Archetype), and how they have chosen far worse touring partners this time around.

          There summed it up for you. I like to use evidence to support my claims and form arguments. I suggest you try that in the future.

          • ThisIsNecessary

            Smoke a bowl dude. Rest assured, your internet penis is obviously miles longer than any of ours.

  • myke

    they also said divine heresy is playing some off dates with them

    • Malacoda

      So…. Dino will open for himself?

      Too bad about that lineup.

  • http://www.smnnews.com big_metal_al

    I agree with Ziltoid. No surprise in my eyes either, but good tour and will probably go!

  • Andy Synn

    “Fear Factory appeals to the same kind of people that shitty deathcore appeals to–simple-minded idiots.”

    Does that mean FF are a bad band? From all i’ve seen you do seem to equate liking bands you don’t like to having terrible taste in music, but I am not sure if you are trying to make that point?

    I like Fear Factory. In fact the new album prompted me to go back and listen to their older stuff I haven’t sampled in a while (Soul… Demanufacture, etc) and i’m not a fan of shitty deathcore (side-note – are you suggesting that there is such a thing as “non-shitty” deathcore? Logically i’d say there is, even though it’s not my thing).

    I understand people’s disappointment though, looking back on their old tour history…

    Darkane, S.Y.L., Soilwork, Misery Index, Suffocation, Hypocrisy, Decapitated (the last 3 all on one tour if i’m not mistaken)…

    Those are some awesome, classic bands taken out by a band which was (at the time) at the height of its power and influence and really used it to cement their position as a death-metal based band themselves.

    The new tour just seems to have been put together by having monkeys throw darts at the nearest metal blog…

    • dr schwine-hoot

      Good call, my thoughts exactly on their last tour to this? Suprising, but i do like me some Fear Factory

    • Ziltoid

      Yes, it means that FF is a bad band. Really now, who besides a complete metal n00b would find anything they do to be remotely interesting?

      But thank you for pointing out the redundancy in the phrase “shitty deathcore.” It should be implied that all deathcore is shitty, but lots of people here like that crap, so I feel the need to specify for their sake.

      • Andy Synn

        “who besides a complete metal n00b would find anything they do to be remotely interesting?”

        I find much of what they do to be interesting (notwithstanding the fact that Burton can be a little… over-blown / pompous in his phrasing and delivery a lot of the time), as I have enough mental capacity to like several different things! Shock!

        So yeah, me, for one.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mathew-James-Saunders/1153389571 Mathew James Saunders

          I second that, they aren’t THAT bad Zilty, would you rather have people listening to rap or some contemporary mainstream shit? At least it’s metal, just obviously not of your taste

        • Ziltoid

          I guess you find the same idea repeated over and over for 20-some odd years to be interesting, then.

          And frankly, I’d rather have people listening to rap or mainstream shit than shitty metal. Thus, there will be less of a demand for shitty metal, and thus a lower supply to match it. Absolutely basic economics, and yes, that applies to metal. Ever wondered why there have been so many shitty -core bands in the past decade?

          A lower supply of shitty metal is always a good thing. Shitty rap and mainstream music will never go away because of how they’re marketed, but shitty metal might vanish someday.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mathew-James-Saunders/1153389571 Mathew James Saunders

            I used to be a fan of them, but indeed their new CD has proven to me that they have gotten old sonically, BUT no one likes a whiner zilty, may not be of your liking…but I still would rather hear someone listening to this than mainstream music. Plus, when new metal heads are just getting into the genre, are they going to start with the most technical band that only the trained ear can understand? Chances are they’ll begin with a band like this and probably gain respect for more extreme styles later in life and realize how simplistic and boring many bands can be…gotta start somewhere!

          • SonOF

            Ziltoid, it’s you against the world again. Everyone must be wrong, while you are right.

            There are dozens of SMART, well-versed metal fans on here that like Fear Factory in addition to tons of other quality bands (even some of which you might enjoy…imagine that).

            Perhaps your impressions of a band are wrong, or misguided for once. Are all your statements regarding Fear Factory based on your listens to “Digimortal?” Maybe that is the issue.

            Your views on music are so childish. They are basically as follows:

            “Whatever I like is great, since I am the most high and only correct judge of music.”
            “If someone likes something that I don’t, not only are they wrong, but they are worthless morons (obviously of low intellect), not worthy of breathing my oxygen.”
            “If someone doesn’t like something that I do, they are obviously wrong (and mentally challenged). If they haven’t heard of an artist that I like, they are sheltered and not well informed.”
            “My views regarding specific music are absolutely set in stone. I have made up my mind on everything, and refuse to change my views. Even if I am presented with evidence and/or piles of opinions to the contrary of my own, I won’t even think about revisiting my original opinion, or giving the music in question another listen.”
            “If someone likes some music that I dislike, then their opinion regarding music is forever worthless to me. Even if they suggest something to me that I have never heard, I will assume it is trash (since I have disagreed with their opinion in the past).”

            That pretty much sums up every comment you have ever made about anything. In the future, if anyone is baffled by one of Ziltoid’s asinine comments, please feel free to refer to this handy-dandy guide to help clarify things.

          • Ziltoid

            It’s funny how you can shoddily “summarize” my comments (if you want to call those valid summaries), yet you don’t understand how each and every one of them is valid.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mathew-James-Saunders/1153389571 Mathew James Saunders

            Ziltoid, you pooped all over this wall Zilty <3 F.F.

          • SonOF

            Ziltoid: If you seriously think those summations of your comments are “valid” (especially the first two), you either need to take a philosophy class to find out what a “valid” premise is, or you need mental help.

            “Whatever I like is great, since I am the most high and only correct judge of music.”
            “If someone likes something that I don’t, not only are they wrong, but they are worthless morons”

            If you think the above are true and valid statements, you may be suffering from delusions of grandeur (or narcissism to an unhealthy degree), and psychological help is definitely necessary.

            I’m sure you have a snarky, one-sentence quip to come back with, but you lose. Do us all a favor and fix your close-minded, self-important, condescending worldview. It’s doing nothing for anyone. And this is not because you don’t like Fear Factory; that is your right. It’s your general reaction to everything you don’t like, as well as everything other people do like (which you don’t find acceptable).

  • bojanglesbitches!!!

    I actually think this is a bad ass line up. But what the fuck do I know?

  • http://www.kingdomofnoise.blogspot.com MetalMatt

    I think I might listen to it again tonight. First go was alright.

  • http://www.kingdomofnoise.blogspot.com MetalMatt

    as for the tour, i’m close to nowhere so I doubt it.

  • Tr00dFurg3s0n

    The Dirge Within album is pretty killer. Will be going to this fo sho.

  • I killed a Dunky

    sad but true but the dude in the pic is my cousin

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lewis-Hart/562135455 Lewis Hart

    Seeing them soon in London with Sylosis supporting. Hell yeah mother truckers!!!

    • http://www.thrashhits.com Hugh Platt

      This is the one time I can remember the UK getting a sweeter “tour” than America.

      • LeperAffinity

        Yeah sylosis shits all over the 3 shitstains on the american tour, this is bullshit

        • krunkulor5000

          well said, thats fucked up Sylosis fuckin rocks soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much harder than Fear Fucks

  • ITTOA666

    stupid tour is stupid

  • Facebook User

    i think you guys are overrating mechanize. i want to love it, but I actually liked archetype alot better. more memorable songs. there are really only two songs that stand out to me on mechanize. but whatever. I’d go see FF just to see live songs from demanufacture and obselete

  • Awful Georges

    Couldn’t we get a writer that actually likes the band in the first place…

  • Awful Georges

    Winds Of Plague sounds great but yeah Periphery and Dirge Within is not that good. But man, stop the fuckin’ hate parade on FF, it’s getting kinda old.

    • Ziltoid

      How ironic. Fear Factory’s sound was “kinda old” over a decade ago.

      • SonOF

        serious question for Ziltoid: Did you even give “Mechanize” a listen when it came out? Or do you just assume it sucks? Just curious.

  • TheKingBoar

    Not as bad as anyone who wants to see Dark Tranquillity has to go through…

    • Ziltoid

      DT are the openers. They can just do the right thing and leave after DT. It’s absolutely depressing that they’re only going to get a 30-40 minute set.

      • SonOF

        holy shit, you like DT!? Aren’t they a bit generic for you, as they have a sound that is similar to tons of other Gothenburg melodeath bands? Very hypocritical of you Ziltoid, liking a quality band who isn’t necessarily reinventing the wheel with each album. Tsk, tsk.

    • SonOF

      Just looked at the lineup for that one. Are you telling me that DT are really opening for the Devil Wears Prada? I can see doing this tour for the American exposure, and opening for KSE because they are fucking huge, but opening for TDWP? Don’t you have to draw the line somewhere? DT aren’t some trendy new act or something…I don’t get it.

      • krunkulor5000

        say what!??? i was wondering about that for the show tomorrow, what that fuK is Devil Wears Prada doing in this show, WTFFFFFFFF, not to mention WTF happended to mayhem fest, i mean really Korn? AHHHHH bet there will be a fucking twilight booth there too

  • Mike

    ummmm this is absolute BS! okay I bet you havent listened to one of these bands so stop dissing them. Yeah the bands are not well known……SO????? Every band starts low and I will say Dirge Within fucking Dominates 90% of the metal bands of today and Periphery is kickass. I am not a huge fan of Winds of Plague but who cares. I am going to see the almighty Fear Factory and Dirge Within, an amazing chicago metal band that everyone should check out! They are bringing bands they love and hope the audience will love. I bet if you actually gave the bands a try you’d take back every immature comment you have stated above!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Sterling-Rice/1030080162 James Sterling Rice

    Honestly, Periphery’s the best part of the tour.

  • AATHD

    It’s your fault Metalsucks! Dino is probably butt-hurt about the “baby eating rumors” that he wanted to tour with shit-sandwich-core bands. Because liking shit sandwich bands is morally acceptable over eating babies.

  • Noel

    ok, im sick of all the FF criticism. Metalsucks, you like ifuckedabearonce, and youve swooned over suicide silence, so shove it. and enough with all the “beard” metal, and sumeriancore crap. please. FF sucks, but, not as much as that shit, imo.

  • Skeletonwitchcraft

    I love Fear Factory. Love the new album. but not enought to sit through those opening bands to see them live.

    Winds of Plague is the reason I didnt go see Hatebreed and Chimaira while back. fuckin hate that generic garbage.

  • El Peras

    This Ziltoid guy deserves a Metalsucks Interview PLEASE PLEASE PLEASEPTRETTYFUCKINPLEASE!!!

    • SonOF

      Yeah, we really want an interview with a condescending college kid who hates all metal that anyone else likes. He can give us tips on how to discover “true metal,” and how to attack people if their opinion is different from yours.

      • Sandy n Papo

        hey man, just dont give him that importance, who cares what he thinks? nobody!!, who cares what I think? nobody…If you like FF its fine, nobody is needed to prove you rigth or wrong…but if you continue posting comments for him then you are feeding his ego and making people to ask for interviews for somebody just that unimportant like you, me and all the other readers

  • Taephit

    I saw Fear Factory on their tours for their “Digimortal” and “Transgresion” album releases in Calgary.

    For “Digimortal”, they had Puya and Dry Kill Logic open for them and they were awesome. I hadn’t even heard of either band before that show and I immediately went out and bought both their albums (Puya is WAY better on stage than on CD. Dry Kill’s 1st one is phenomenal but each disk after that slipped further away from greatness. Point being that they both killed live! Even joining FF on stage for a group singing of the corus from “Edgecrusher”)

    For “Transgression” I was excited, hoping to find opening bands just as entertaining as the “Digimortal” show…
    Not the case. I have no idea who the 3 opening acts were, but they blew!
    I went with 2 friends and we couldn’t believe they were opening for Fear Factory. We just sorta sat around making fun of their over-the-top hilarious lyrics and generic music. (all while a massive fat man who looked like he could eat Dino moshed around high-as-a-kite crashing into people and sweating liquid cheese. Eventually we got so bored with the opening acts we just tried tripping the chunky-junky just to see if he still felt pain or could get up without assistance from a crane.)

    When Fear Factory finally came out after 3 shitty opening bands they were great, but we were already so bored to tears after enduring the opening bands that it kinda sucked the life out of the whole show.