ROSE FUNERAL: THE UNO INCIDENT?

Monday, February 22nd, 2010 at 12:30pm by Axl Rosenberg

NOTE: Devin Shidaker is no longer in Rose Funeral, even though for some reason he’s still listed as a member on the band’s MySpace page. Our apologies for including his name when we initially ran this story.

UPDATE: A source very close to the band tells us that this entire story is true. So that sucks. Original story follows…

Alright. So we’ve been getting e-mails about this since Thursday, and Vince and I struggled with whether or not to run anything about it because, well, the internet can be a terrible place full of nonsense, and we have no way to verify whether or not this event ever actually occurred. But now we’ve gotten so many e-mails about it, it seems like we have to say something.

Still, two disclaimers before we move forward:

This should be treated as an unsubstantiated rumor until further notice. Like I said, we’re currently unable to verify if there’s any truth to this story or not.
We’re not making any judgments, positive or negative, about Rose Funeral’s music. Whether or not we or anybody else thinks they’re a good band or not is the very definition of “beside the point” in this instance. The point is whether or not one or more members of the band did something really heinous.

And with that being said, here’s the story, as described to us via various e-mails from people who claim to have been present when this all went down…

Apparently at the Tulsa, OK stop of Nile’s current (MetalSucks co-sponsored) tour with Immolation, Krisiun, and Dreaming Dead, there was a last-minute line-up change, and Rose Funeral were announced as the new show openers. A group of concert goers, at least one of whom is said to be all of seventeen years old, decided to play a game of Uno near the stage in protest.

Now, let’s stop right here for a second: yes, playing a card game while the band is performing, within the band’s eye sight, is a dick move. Whether or not it’s any ruder than actual heckling is up for debate. Regardless, it doesn’t justify what allegedly happened next.

I wasn’t there (obviously), so now I’m just going to re-print the first hand account of reader Michael Booher:

“We played two and half games. At first Rose Funeral didn’t seem to care, but then before their last song I heard the vocalist [Tim Russel] say “What is this shit?!” and they just continued on with their totally sweet breakdowns. After they were done I put the Uno deck up and the guitarist [Ryan Gardner] touched Ronnie’s shoulder and said, ‘Hey are you the guy that was talking shit on YouTube?’ [We're also not clear what this is a reference to, but it's worth noting that Ronnie is apparently seventeen years old. - Ed.]

“Ronnie: ‘No, that would be him,’ and he pointed at me.

“Me: ‘Yeah it was me, what’s up?’

“Rose Funeral drummer [Dusty Boles]: ‘Let’s go outside!’

“Me: ‘No, I want to see these GOOD bands first.’

“Rose Funeral guitarist: ‘No, let’s go, NOW.’

“Me: ‘No, I want to see these GOOD bands first.’”

At this point the guitarist apparently spit in Michael’s face; Michael, in turn spit back. Then:

“Dusty Boles: ‘Let’s go outside.’ [At which point Boles is said to have removed his shirt. - Ed.]

“Rose Funeral bassist [Dale Hammond]: ‘Hey, is that the guy?’

“At about this time a guy who works at the venue got in-between us. So it came as a surprise when I got hit in the back of the head. It made me take a step forward and then I ended up in some pussy headlock that I got out of way too easily. I didn’t know this at the time, but Rose Funeral’s merch guy was the one who hit me in the head, and the guitarist is the one that got me in a headlock.”

Right around this time venue security apparently got involved, separating Michael and his friends from the band and instructing the concert-goers to be careful about wandering the venue alone, lest they get jumped by the members of Rose Funeral. The evening continued without incident until:

“I start walking back to the front, just in time to see Ronnie get hit by someone. [Dusty Boles] was choking him and BJ pulled him off. I don’t know who hit him, but I only saw the guitarist so I started walking towards him again, only to have the guys working [at the venue] get in my way again. Ronnie said he didn’t do anything, he just started getting hit and every time he turned around to see who hit him, he got hit in the back of the head again by someone else. A guy working [at the venue] took Ronnie outside and some other guys took the guitarist and drummer outside. I followed, thinking they were just going to let them kick Ronnie’s ass ,but it ended up being a few guys talking to Rose Funeral, a few talking to Ronnie, so I went back inside and laughed with my friends. After about fifteen minutes, Dreaming Dead had set up, and Ronnie wasn’t back. I found the [venue employee] who grabbed my arm and dragged me away and asked him what was going on. He said ‘This makes me fucking sick, I hate that it happened, but your friend got kicked out. The tour manager wants him gone, there’s nothing I can do.’ WHAT THE FUCK! Ronnie gets hit for no fucking reason and HE GETS KICKED THE FUCK OUT?!”

Now Michael is obviously coming from a biased place and never liked Rose Funeral in the first place, but, again, that’s beside the point; the point is whether or not the band attacked a seventeen year old kid and his friends.

Now… the story gets a little more interesting still. Reader Kyle Heider sent us a screencap of the following exchange between Rose Funeral and a non-fan over Facebook; the exchange has since been removed [Note: apparently the Rose Funeral part of this exchange is not actually Rose Funeral, but, rather, Mike Alfaro, who runs a fan page for the band... click here for more details]:

So that obviously looks pretty incriminating.

Again, we have no way of confirming these events; I asked Michael Booher if there was a police report or anyone had captured any of this on video or whatever, but the cops were never called and no one whipped out a cell phone to record the incident.

But if Rose Funeral really did jump some concert-goers, well… there’s no circumstances under which I can see that as being okay. It’s just not cool to use physical violence against hecklers (or card players, as the case may be). Period.

And if Rose Funeral didn’t do this and it’s just a bunch of pissed-off kids trying to spread lies, well… never cry wolf, guys.

If anyone else has any additional information about (or, better yet, evidence regarding) this event, please let us know ASAP.

-AR

Tags: Dale Hammond, dreaming dead, Dusty Boles, Immolation, krisiun, Nile, rose funeral, Ryan Gardner, Tim Russel,

Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt

Shame on those kids for being dickish and playing Uno during the bands set. And BIGGER shame on on Rose Funeral for whoopin up on some little teenagers. Big fail.

I know these guys are only 17, but if a band on stage sucks, thats when you goto get beer?!

Cmon guys get with it.

Tortiss

Exactly,
Though the facebook convo is pretty funny, pretty good trollin if ye ask me.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Tom-Campagna/40702766 Tom Campagna

indeed they just can’t take a joke. and deathcore blows and is a complete joke so when will they learn. evidently never lol

http://www.facebook.com/people/Tom-Campagna/40702766 Tom Campagna

i hope the 17 year olds that i teach will be so smart

Ziltoid

Yep, that facebook trolling is a work of art.

DustintheWind

Im not defending the band’s actions but i’m pretty sure the guys in Rose Funeral are like 17 and 18 years old themselves.. So it’s not like these big mean guys beat up on 17 year olds. They’re basically peers
http://www.facebook.com/people/CJ-Crawford/768948209 C.J. Crawford

I seen someone posted on their myspace page in the comments Rose F-UNO-ral!
I LOL’ed.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Jake-Lentz/20725060 Jake Lentz

bahahahaha

http://www.facebook.com/people/Aidan-J-Breen/1244041753 Aidan J. Breen

if your 17 you cant go gt a beer, thats the problem

http://www.facebook.com/people/Bryan-Keith-Blain/100000618260825 Bryan Keith Blain

honestly, being facebook anyone could very easily make a bullshit band page and try to make it seem like they were in fact being complete dicks. for example that david kid could just really really have a deep hatred towards rose funeral and just tried creating hype between him and the band by creating his own fake page and commenting to himself, and as for talking shit and making the band go ape shit, I highly doubt that basically for the mere fact that every band has their haters and not once have I ever heard a band actually react to any kind of bullshit that teenagers like to throw their way.

so yeah I am thinking that this is nothing but a mere rumor

Kyle

1. This isn’t the first instance the band has gotten super-defensive over this. There was a similar event at the Vader show in Cheswick, with an equally similar “flame war” following (I essentially told RF that they ruined the show for me, and they turned into a bunch of snot-nosed kids about the whole thing, basically saying “Come to our next show and fight us!”)

2. That IS the bands Facebook page. They cropped the screencap, cutting off the url. The band wiped the entire page and removed myself (the one who capped it) and all other “non-fans” after several people called them out on the threat.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Bryan-Keith-Blain/100000618260825 Bryan Keith Blain

well here is the thing, I was not saying that it never happened I was basically saying that I personally have never heard of a giant band/hater uproar. But if what you say is true then yes that is really fucked up for a band to get pissy over someone’s opinion, but at the same time I find it rather annoying when people bitch about “deathcore” non-fucking-stop.

Thomas

It’s because Deathcore is a fucking joke of a genre. Nothing but fucking 17 year old scene kids trying to be brutal.

jhiggs

youre an idiot…just like the 17 yr old scene kids…go back to the sandbox billy i dont think you’re ready for such adult pleasures ;)

carrotghost

agghh I wish I had those 4 minutes back.

Mr.Pony

Amen. Shitty death metal “br00tal” wannabe bands need to grow the fuck up! Goddamnit.

SP420

Sorry, but so far from what has been presented here, I’m behind the band. Chances are it was the promoter’s decision to put them on at the last minute and I’m sure this band, Rose Funeral, was excited as fuck to share the stage with some massive names in metal. And then for these arrogant teenage fucks to be nothing but cocklicks and do that to a band that just wants some exposure is just asking to get their ass laid out. And it seems that there was more bad blood between them even before the show…

Teenagers these days just have such contempt and pretentious attitudes about music, especially on the internet. When shit like that seeps into the live shows I fully support them clocked in the fucking head. Maybe that’ll teach them to give respect to those who are actually doing something with their lives instead of protesting through puerile and laughable schemes like the one described.

SP420

Nevermind, I recant on all of that. I just listened to Rose Funeral and concluded they are a shitty Black Dahlia Murder clone.

Facebook User

i disagree with the BDM clone part. They don’t sound the same at all, i have no idea where you got that from.

Vag

yep, some teenagers got a taste of how things were done before the internet….

just like when that young black guy ran into Epic Beard Man….
muahaha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQJFv9SMSMQ

http://www.facebook.com/people/Jacob-Taylor/844235506 Jacob Taylor

Thank you so much for posting that vid. Made my day.

therealmetalmatt

I disagree with you. Yes, the teenagers were being douches doing that in front of them. BUT, no band member(s) has the right to go out and start fighting some kid over something stupid like playing Uno in front of the band or having a Youtube video that talks smack about them. You learn to deal with it. Every band has its haters and most of them ignore it and focus on the people that care about them.
Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt

You side with the band? Dude if I was 17 again (MAAANY Moons ago) and you tried to put me in a headlock- son the cops wouldve had to identify you by your missing teeth.

Then again if i was 17 again, i wouldnt have played uno during there set.

I wouldve played spades.

Seth

Spades is the only way to go.

jhiggs

yep see this guy unlike the rest of you retards, knows what the fucks up, even though he’s a close minded asshole whod rather hate on a band he barely knows than just let people have their brutal cake and eat it too. would you go into a ghetto n put on ya best kkk outfit? no! would you go to a presidential address and blatantly pull out your 12 gauge? fuck no! so why why WHY are people defending this little cumrag who purposely spent the time and money to shit in a bands face by playing a fuckin card game next to the stage? not smart..he got what he asked for…n honestly if i ever see another show such extreme disrespect to a group of artists i will rape their ass with their own head.

Matt

Rose Funeral are fucking stupid and now I hate them.

Every single band has haters, and what every single band needs to do is GET THE FUCK OVER IT.

That is, if you really enjoy and represent the music you are playing.
No need to beat up 17 year old kids for it, fucking douches.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Harrington-Neil-Sauer/677600672 Harrington Neil Sauer

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Marty Jannetty

No, + 7.

rosefuneralsucks

Rose Funeral is probably one of the worst “metal” bands that has ever existed.
Ziltoid

This is the most metal thing that any fan could ever do. THEY ARE WARRIORS OF METAL!

Marty Jannetty

Agreed to the fifth power.
Hammer_Smashed_Hurtt

Thye bring their glories to the children of the NIIIGHT!! (sung in Halford-ish glass shattering Falsetto)
http://www.last.fm/user/opeth027/ Kyle

I think Manowar would disapprove!

B-dizzle

Good on those 17 year olds for realizing at such a young age that this band is ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Douchebag

Who the fuck is Rose Funeral and why should I care?

Gaia

That’s what I’m thinking.

Waldo

this may be a lttle off subject but teenagers at shows now days are real smart ass little bastards in the bands defense. I went to a Within the Ruins show and me and my buddy started a little pit, we were not trying to hurt anyone but they were a little smaller and were doing some slam dance shit. They were doing it in the pit though they got hit made some comments and then ensued in trying to start a fight. The point is, is that teenagers more recently I think feel they have some sort of entitlement to say whatever the fuck or do whatever the fuck they want with no reprocusuions. I was not trying to hurt these kids but when one took me down by spearing me he is lucky my buddy saved his life by throwing him off because i was cranked back and ready to throw a punch. I think teenagers need to learn some sort of manners and etiquette when it comes to music and shows.

Waldo

In no way am I condoning this bands music though.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Tom-Campagna/40702766 Tom Campagna

its an assault on everything that is good about metal

therealmetalmatt

I totally agree with you. Some feel they are all tough and what not when in reality, they’re little douchebag punks
Fasshole

i don’t think the problem is teenagers, it’s people who hardcore dance.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Tom-Campagna/40702766 Tom Campagna

yea usually a bunch of fat tards do it and nobody was expecting it/ cares until one of those behemoths bumps you. Then its really kewl!!!!!!

Ziltoid

Yes, teenagers are total douches at shows for the most parts (i.e., the ones who “mosh” and slam dance like they sooooo hardcore), but this band is retarded in every sense of the word.
Tonberry

Kids these days with their crazy out of control slam dancin… they damn near knocked the onion off of my belt.

My favorite part of the story was when you almost punched him, bro. However, you lose points for not having your friends hold you back while you pretend to struggle to break free and throw some of those deadly punches.

DustintheWind

hahahha, “so i tied an onion to my belt….which was the style at the time”

Crypticbeast754

Also I don’t think this is a rumor. It’s one of those stories that sound too crazy to make up lol.
Cryzthormagnusian

Since when has altercations between bands and crowds been such a *gasp* like event?
Crypticbeast754

Pretty genius of the kids playing UNO. Wish I thought of that. What a bunch of pussies RF is. They’re spreading a message of “If somebody doesn’t like your band, gang up on them and sucker punch them.” Great way to attract new fans.

Leprosy

would have been better if it was jenga.

“slowwwwly…. slowwwwwly….wait wait wait STOP STOP… AHHHHHHHH!!!!!! you lose,stack it up again Ronnie”

http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-John-Crispen/100000169530540 Jason John Crispen

what ever happened to just turning your back on bands you didn’t like? the only thing worse than playing to an empty place is playing to the back of people’s heads.

Ziltoid

My friends and I did this when Psyopus opened up for Atheist. While it was fun, playing Uno would have been so much better.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Tom-Campagna/40702766 Tom Campagna

you were at that show in July? yea they blew major ass

Ziltoid

Yep. Thank god The Agonist didn’t show up for the NY show…

http://www.facebook.com/people/Tom-Campagna/40702766 Tom Campagna

then there would have been more Ziltoidian hate. i saw that chick who sings for them and her hair alone pissed me off

matttao

I agree with the band. If your gonna test someone, be prepared for the consequences.

matt

true. if you want to provoce someone then better back it up instead of being a pussy and not wanting to step out. then go on internet and cry about abuse but make sure you emphasize 10 times you really wanted to punch him (but you didnt try at all) like this little pussy 17yo did.

i didnt even know of rose funeral up till today but wanting to fight idiots is a +1

Jesus

Rose fUNOral on wikipedia

http://lavidastrangiato.blogspot.com/ Jake Strangiato

Win!

I’m so glad we missed RF when they opened for Nile. We decided making a McDonald’s run was more important than sitting through a bunch of deathcore. I mentioned this before, but they also wanted to crash at our place afterwards. We politely declined, and it was definitely for the best.
Gaia

I put the fun in funeral.

Dysenteric

I quite like Uno. I’d played a few games, I don’t care whether it is a “dick move” or not.

And yeah, if RF actually did do this, well, fuck them. Fucking horrible piece of shit band. Ugh…
Devin Shidaker

Well I quit this band, so it wasn’t me. Honestly doesn’t sound too far fetched though.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Joel-Bailey/1624089874 Joel Bailey

fuck little douche bag kids like that.. i don’t care if you like or hate a band.. show some respect.. just go outside and blow each other or something. One of the guys in that band should have pissed on them from the stage.. that would’ve ruled

chugga chugga choo choo

Draw 4

Seth

The color is yellow.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Andrew-Sterner/1335958279 Andrew Sterner

That’s fucking genius. Now, if that had occurred and not this garbage, everyone would be laughing at the hecklers and giving kudos to RF, I think….at least i would be. But sadly, this isn’t the case, instead they(RF) were cocksucking twats.

Sluga

yes… because everyone loves people pissing on others. especially adults pissing on teenagers.

Lolpiss

R-kelly does.

Facebook User

Thank you for posting this Axl. I’m not one of them, but I have been following this from the beginning.
ian

While it may be a “dick move” those kids had EVERY right to express their free speech by playing UNO during the band’s set. Unless the venue prohibits cardgames, those kids did NOTHING WRONG. They don’t like the band, they want the band to know that, that’s tough shit.

If your band gets upset over negative comments over Youtube and the like, write a song about it. If you beat up little kids because their opinions differ than that of your fans, you deserve every bit of punishment that comes your way.

Rose Funeral embodies the deathcore scene right now. The music gives a bad name to true death metal, and their tuffguy bravado gives a bad name to hardcore.

Andy Synn

+ infinity.

http://phantom666lord Leah

Yeah it was a dick move, that’s why we did it. RF should not have been with NILE, Immolation, and Krisiun. They’d played the same venue with Vader a month before and were douches then, I think that’s the main reasoning behind our *innocent* card game. Hopefully they won’t come back to Tulsa. Also, would it help solidify the story if I scanned the UNO card that I had Karl Sanders sign?

Facebook User

email it to them.

Danexmurder

Truth of the matter is, if you are going to be an asshole you had better be prepared to take what’s coming to you, this is true on both sides of the matter. If you are going to be an arrogant little shit at a show, and pull something like that, then you had better be prepared to get your ass kicked by the band of their fans. Conversely if you are in a band, and want to go throwing your weight around because some little scene kid is acting like a scene kid, be prepared for the backlash that is sure to follow. What it boils down to is there is something sorely lacking in the heavy music scene today and that is respect. Respect for the people you paid to entertain you, and respect for the people who are paying you to entertain.

Andy Synn

So because the band were put on in front of them… the audience menbers had to be extra thankful to Rose Funeral?

Now in truth I personally would simply have gone to the bar and ignored their terrible, style over substance bro-core, but playing Uno is completely inoffensive and, if RF had been clever, actually a very funny thing to comment on at the show.

Effectively you’re saying that if a band is in any way criticised they have a right to beat up their critics?

And again, playing Uno is MUCH LESS offensive than shouting shit at the band while they are playing.
Waldo

Well said.
Genial Gentile

This. For the rest of us old farts, there are a set of well-known, if unwritten set of rules for attending shows. Whether it’s a HC show or a metal concert, there is a an unspoken code of conduct. Maybe a lot of kids have gotten used to being able to talk unbridled amounts of shit anonymously on the internet with no repercussions. Well welcome to the real world, junior. Learn the fucking rules, or stay home. Granted, playing UNO is pretty innocuous compared to, I don’t know, throwing shit at the stage or heckling (and it is actually a pretty funny and clever way of protesting) but a show isn’t the internet and you can’t expect to act like a jackass and not have anyone call you on it. I’m not condoning beating up 17 yr olds, but I certainly don’t have any sympathy for them either. If you don’t like the opening act, maybe you should have your mom drop you off a little later next time.

Danexmurder

It’s pretty simple, if you’re being an asshole be prepared to face the consequences. That goes for the band, and the people in the audience. I don’t think that physical violence is ever the answer, but if you’re asking for it, it could very well come your way, so be prepared for it.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Joel-Bailey/1624089874 Joel Bailey

It would be great to see shit stains like that try to pull something idiotic and disrespectful with a band like Madball or DEP opening the show.. Neither one of those bands would “belong” (as you so eloquently put it) opening for Nile. I also bet no one would be crying for them then. I think the big problem, is that because people may not like Rose Funeral (who I could give a shit about) they think this is ok. Fuck you and your retarded, mom for not letting your dad cum in her ass the night you were conceived.

Danexmurder

Oh, and glad to hear from someone on here who remembers what it was like to go to shows back in the day.

Andy Synn

I went to shows back in the day. Probably when I was too young to do so in fact (more in the case that I was quite small at the time) and I remember the annoying violence and threat therein. For a while it went away, and now we are back again to a point in the cycle where being violent and threatening at shows (both bands and fans) seems to be the “norm” and if you disagree with this you are a “pussy”.

Idiotic.

Also i’d imagine DEP would definitely see the funny side of Uno. I respect bands who deal with their critics in an intelligent manner, in the same way that I really respect comedians who can deal with hecklers and often turn things around on them.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Charles-Albright/1613156129 Charles Albright

DEP would probably end up playing a game with them since they’re the nicest guys in the history of music.

thehatemachine

he said maybe you should have your mom drop you off later next time! +1

dicknballs

Rose Funeral is horrible – a few years ago I had the unfortunate pleasure of seeing them and I would have totally rather played UNO instead of listening to them.

donkeyfest

sheep

Bill

My 2 cents on the situation: It was a dick move to play Uno during the set, and it could have been solved just by showing up a little later in the night so they didn’t have to watch Rose Funeral. However, I tend to believe them when it comes to starting a fight with someone in the crowd. They really do not have anything to gain in making up the story since they’d forever be known for messing with bands they don’t like, as well as being fucked with by other concert goers as the metalheads who cried wolf as you said Axl. The band has been known to be incredibly hostile towards those who do not approve of their music to go along with everything else. I honestly can’t say if what happened is true or not, but I can say that if it is true, that’s the ultimate dick move by Rose Funeral to jump someone who didn’t want to get in a fight.

Leah

Well we got there early so we could get the rail for the good bands that followed. Really, UNO was just to pass the time.

Vag

well, at least we established that you are in fact a dick… I’m sorry, i don’t see anyway around it. You whipped out playing cards while a band was doing there thing. Regardless of how shitty that band it, you were a dick.

just stand there and take you little shit…. you want to see nile up close? you pay for it with shitty deathcore…

EPIC BEARD MAN WILL TEACH YOU KIDS A LESSON!!!!!

but yeah, the band was even dickier(?) in this case…. and their music does suck pretty hard….

i predict this being old news in 5, 4, 3, 2…………….

Leah

Haha, it’s just ridiculous how pissed off they got about it. It wouldn’t have been a big deal whatsoever if they’d just played their set and got off the damn stage. I felt kinda bad about it until they jumped in the crowd and starting hitting people from behind. The thing is, we weren’t doing anything to provoke them really, we were just ignoring them. Oddly enough, I don’t think they would have reacted so poorly had we stuck to the usual heckling methods of shouting insults, etc. It was pretty funny to hear the phrases “fuck you up” “take this outside” and “UNO” used together so seriously. Those guys have some issues.

Tyler J. Knepper

Curious, who won the games of uno? Honestly, this has just been making me wonder. Wouldn’t seem so out of place for Rose Funeral to do such a thing, especially from what I’ve seen at shows. During Oh, Sleeper, I believe, at the Norma Jean/MyChildren MyBride show a little over a year ago, some kid was dressed as the Joker from The Dark Knight and felt it necessary to lift up a girl’s skirt… Needless to say, he got his ass beaten 6 ways from sunday. So basically, Rose Funeral is like the kid that dressed up as the Joker. And that’s how he’ll always be remembered.
B-dizzle

Rose Funeral obviously lost UNO : P

http://lavidastrangiato.blogspot.com/ Jake Strangiato

This is almost as douchey as whenever Born of Osiris admitted to choking out a girl in their MetalSucks interview. Fuck them in the ear.
Hassman

How is playing Uno during a set a dick move? If I was on stage, I’d rather the people that didn’t like my music play uno than heckle me.

From the information given it appears the hostile action stems from comments on a youtube video…

http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-John-Crispen/100000169530540 Jason John Crispen

yeah and any band that’s lame enough to get all up in arms over youtube comments deserves the shit talk comments in the first place. unless you are metallica you are NEVER going to play to a crowd that is 100% there to see you. so you deal with it. you don’t sucker punch 17 year old kids like a bunch of bitches. doing so just gives them attention which is what they wanted in the first place. maybe i can organize a game of risk or stratego when they come to our town.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Andrew-Sterner/1335958279 Andrew Sterner

I actually went to a metallica concert to see Gojira, left half way through metallicas set to beat traffic…wasn’t impressed(I’ve seen them a few times in the past, mind you). So not even metallica has 100%….SHAME on you for comparing these shits to them in any aspect, and shame on me for pointing that out

http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-John-Crispen/100000169530540 Jason John Crispen

how did you take what i said as comparing them to metallica??

RomuluXX

Lets take this shit to the next level and start playing Pokemon Monopoly at Rose Funeral shows. Nothing screams “fuck you!” like a game based on a japanese cartoon that won’t even be getting started until the end of your set.

Bicro

Hell to the fuck to the motherfucking YES.
gibberish

You, sir, are my hero

http://www.myspace.com/whiskeyrambleproject x101whiskey_ramble101x

Hitting somebody while they aren’t looking is a bitch move… Playing a game of UNO while a shitty band is playing is actually pretty hilarious…gore doesn’t make a band good, it’s being good at music and putting on a killer show that makes a band good. I noticed some dipshit say “go get a beer”…did you read? This kat was 17 man! how the fuck are they gonna get a beer?…. All people involved are making too much of this anyhow. If the band didn’t do anything to stop it during the show or have enough of a following to stop them while they were playing then they must not be that entertaining, or have much of a sense of humor.
Who Gives A Damn

Hmm… and I speak as far as someone who has a band…

No matter who you are, or what band you are, you decided to be in the entertainment businees,.. if this story is fact how it’s gone down and these guys decided to pick on a kid for Youtube comments, then they need a lot of growin’ up to do. Anyone who’s doin’ entertainment of any sort has to deal with people who both dig and not dig ‘em. That’s it, handle it professionally and who gives a fuck if people play Uno. A lot of peeps talked shit about me and my band and I can give a fuck less.. I still get laid at night, I still have my finances and still have my band’s core supporters who we love. Pshh.. play Uno on our stage, I’d ask to be handed some cards too. Ahh well. That band sucks anyway.

unorocks

yeah, but there is “not digging” and there is “being an ass”

don’t get me wrong, the band still should have not acted the way they did…. but i mean c’mon, the kids were fucking asking for…

but i’m sure they would say:
“huh? what? i was just playing UNO? what’s wrong with that?”

that;’s where the whole “being 17″ thing comes in…. they are dicks… they knew exactly what they were doing, and (a la pulp ficiton) they might not have expected THAT reaction, but they definitely expected (maybe even desired) SOME reaction….

conclusion:
1. fuckin’ teenagers can go die.
2. fuckin’ deathcore can go die.

Ahab

Rose Funeral = UNO-CORE
Whiskey Horse

I wouldn’t be surprised if the account is true. I was at the NY show, at the Gramercy I think, of Vader’s late ’09 show (in October or November) and Rose Funeral was the opening band. I was incredibly disinterested with them and the few judo-moshers that were on the floor so I went into the seats to sit out there set. Now, as most of the people there came to see a, more or less, straight-up death metal show (Warbringer and Decrepit Birth were direct support) there weren’t a lot of people there that were fans of their music. So there were a few kids down by the barricade that, I assume, were heckling them during their set. I didn’t see interaction past that while they were playing. Once they got off the stage, I went down to the floor in preparation to see Augury, who were on next. As I get down there a few members of the band sort of storm out from around the barricade and get right in this one kids face, and one their guitarists it a big guy. They definitely seemed pretty ready to kick the shit out of this kid, at the least. Security got between them pretty quickly, though, and the Rose Funeral guys bitched about the kid doing whatever and the kid got kicked out. I don’t think anything further happened with that, but if security hadn’t gotten in as quick as they did, I would not have been surprised if something like the above story, or worse, happened.

Dudebro

The guitarist Ryan got in the kids face outside and made him apologize for calling him a “tough guy”.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-McNamara/616832077 Michael McNamara

He got in my face. Trying to make me apologize. Eventually, he called over a bunch of band members to get in my face and be tough with me. Drama ensued for a good 20-30 minutes but eventually we both apologized. After that happened, the drummer came to me and told me he could get me back into the show.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-McNamara/616832077 Michael McNamara

I’m the kid who was kicked out. To clarify, the incident started when the guitarist threatened to kill someone in my general vicinity. So I said, “Wow, you are a tough guy.” I’m pretty sure that they were going to gang up on me but a group of people I met outside interceded.

Devin Shidaker

Also, take my fucking name off of here.

Alex_P

You’re still listed as a member of the band on Wikipedia. You should try and do something about that, especially after this cockmongery present here. Metal-Archives has you listed as an ex, so you’re good there.

http://myspace.com/northwestroyale Blake

Dude… looking at the band’s Wikipedia page, these guys have enough ex-members to start at least two other bands. What the hell?

RomuluXX

It makes Megadeth look like the most stable band on the market

Grymmbear

Or Iced Earth.

Mike

Just to clarify any confusion and to defend my friend Devin Shidaker’s honor, he was long out of the band before this happened. So don’t relate him with any of this.

On topic, I think both parties were out of line. Playing Uno directly in front of a band, no matter how bad you think they are, is completely disrespectful. Not just to the band as a whole, but the individuals as well. If you don’t like them, don’t fucking watch them. Straight up. But as for RF reacting this way, it was completely childish. ATLEAST fight the kid one on one. Better yet, take it as a grain of salt. Not everyone will like your music. That’s how shit is. Deal with it.

http://myspace.com/northwestroyale Blake

Agreed on all counts.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-John-Crispen/100000169530540 Jason John Crispen

it’s not anymore disrespectful than walking away to use the restroom or talking on a cellphone or texting. if you can’t the crowd’s attention that your fault as a band. don’t take out your insecurities on the very people paying to allow you to perform.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-John-Crispen/100000169530540 Jason John Crispen

can’t command the crowd’s attention. that’s what i was going for there. whoops.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Joel-Bailey/1624089874 Joel Bailey

you’re a retard that suffers from fetal alcohol syndrome… going to take a piss is in no way disrespectful.. dipshit..

Facebook User

that’s the point you over zealous cunt

http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-John-Crispen/100000169530540 Jason John Crispen

precisely! way to be able read between the lines. kudos!

Michael Booher

Also, Devin was NOT at the show in Tulsa

Michael Booher

What the hell. My first comment didn’t get posted…it was long as shit too. Oh well.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=310694558587&ref=ts

Video that started it all:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrbts79ZARU

Tonberry

On one hand, we have a shitty band acting shitty. On the other, we have kids getting called out IRL for being internet tough guys. Tough call.
Bill

Always nice to hear when hecklers get fucked up.
FacelessOne

People who go on about how the kids “deserve to get their ass kicked for being dicks” are sad, pathetic human beings. If you’re incapable of seeing any way to handle such a small, insignificant little issue beyond resorting to violence, you are not someone who belongs in civilized society.

Cryzthormagnusian

I’M GONNA FUCK YOU UP MAN…OUTSIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

metalguy

BECAUSE THE INDOORS PLACES ARES TOOS SMALL TO CONTAIN MY BADASSERY MUTHAFUKER

Waldo

I agree, I usually resort to talking shit and that usually wins. I only resort to violence when violence is brought to me. Talking shit to dickheads is funnier and more fun anyway.

ten thousand mexicans on a spaceship

The rest of the story (I’m one who submitted it originally):

- Rose Funeral had to deal with at least two more Uno-releated incidents, one of them being in Virginia.

- In Virginia after the show, there was a big brawl outside the venue that was basically Rose Funeral Vs. Everyone Else

- At subsequent shows, their merch guy (who attacked the underaged kid at Tulsa) has a cast on his hand now

- They are banned from the venue in Tulsa and Virginia

- At subsequent shows, you should try and trade them an Uno pack for one of their CD’s

Michael Booher

I turned 20 a few weeks ago. The merch guy hit me from behind and then I ended up in a headlock (my friends said it looked like a hug) by the guitarist, which I escaped probably too easily. Then got separated by the workers again.
old skool metal head

I was at the Virginia Beach show where the guy standing next to me had a deck of Uno cards. I asked what was up with the cards and he gave me the details of the Tulsa incident. It did not take long before the members of Rose Funeral noticed the cards and started asking questions. I believe he said something to the effect he was going to play a game when Tim started talking smack and pointing out the cards to other members of the band.

At one point the guy was escorted out by security and the members of Rose Funeral continued taking smack and looking for the guy with the Uno cards. After their set was finished they broke their gear down and took it outside where an attempted altercation took place. The guy with the cards was allowed back in during Dreaming Dead’s set and during a break he explained (his words) that a crowd of about 14 people were waiting for Rose Funeral to start something and when Rose Funeral was facing down a lot more than one or two, backed down.

Unfortunately Rose Funeral seems to have it all wrong when it comes to respect, it is earned, not given! Just because you show up to perform a show doesn’t mean I have to like you and if you are not adult enough to take a little criticism, you might want to reconsider what you are doing. Based on their handling of the Uno cards situation I wouldn’t give these clowns the time of day! If people do not respect you, that is your problem, not theirs. I respect the fact they are a band trying to make a living, I do not like their music or their attitude and that is my choice. In order for them to get my respect, they have to earn it through better musicianship and better people skills, not threatening to beat people up who don’t like them. An example of good people skills was displayed by Karl Sanders of Nile, after “Sacrifice Unto Sebek” was played the mikes went dead! Dallas was talking to the sound man and Karl went around the the front row shaking hands with the crowd. Everybody was cool with the technical problems because they knew it wasn’t Nile and they handled it well.

Did the kids in Tulsa have a right to demonstrate, yes they did. The idea that you have to pay attention to a band because they show up is nonsense. I was not thrilled about the change from Abigail Williams to Rose Funeral, I would have preferred to have either Abigail Williams or no band at all, give the extra time to Dreaming Dead and Krisiun. If a band is not willing to respect its potential audience, why should they be expected to get respect?

hersh

was a fan and actually bought the resting sonata, but i know these guys and there fucking legit there young but they live for the real metal bands. I was in a band myself and of course it sucks when people arent diggin it but you dont fucking start a fight. You keep playing and suck it up especially in a tour line up like that. There on with the old school big boys and of course you know real metalheads mosh we dont practice karate nothing against it. Its pretty cool to watch people hit each other. But its never going to amount to a nice CIRCLE PIT

LONG LIVE UNO EVEN THOUGH I DONT KNOW HOW TO PLAY

AND IF IT AINT BLAST BEATING IT AINT SHIT
Kye

Deathcore, promoting maturity in music, one long winded, cheesy, “I wish I was in Mayhem” chainsaw and br00tuhl mutilation threat at a time.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Jane-M-Moser/1098977097 Jane M Moser

That’s insane!
any way, my band Hellistic Threat, (previously known as Holistic Threat) was supposed to open for Rose Funeral back in November at The Crocodile Rock in Allentown, PA…
When we got there, the promoter brought me to the side, and informed me, that Rose Funeral will not be playing due to one of their members being arrested, the night before, also he had a warrant out for his arrest, and they found him by him using a credit card, for the hotel room.

Not sure if these 2 situations are connected, since I don’t know when the date of the Tulsa show was.

Devin Shidaker

I was still in the band at this point. Nobody in the band got arrested for anything, or had any warrants out for their arrest. The show was booked through our shitty ass agent (Fuck you John Finnberg), and we were never told about it. We found out when we were on our way home.

Cryzthormagnusian

Hey, I was there and it was totally nuts.

First the UNO thing happened and then it went outside but that’s not where it ended.

Apparently the drummer for Rose Funeral knows some people in the area and called them. A few minutes later gangs of skinheads raided the club with katanas. They destroyed anything and everyone that stood in thier way.

Luckily, I and a few other 15 year olds were able to form a shield over ourselves with tables (I totally learned that from 300).

We started inching out of the club turtle style all the way stepping over bodies of our friends and pools of blood and teeth.

We made it outside finally and Rose Funeral were outside with guns shooting at cars driving by and molesting kids from park nearby. The singer was sodomizing a 6 year old with the barrel of his gun it was nuts man.

Anyway, we managed to get around them. We watched from a safe place as the SWAT team came and started launching an attack on the club. The fighting went into the night and the club caught fire and collapsed. It was insane but some of us survived at least.

I heard the Rose Funeral did that at least 12 other times in other clubs and got banned for it. :/

I hear that they are working with Chinese hackers to destroy Youtube now.

Andy Synn

This sounds about right.
Waldo

win

builtforsin

If you pay to get in, as far as I’m concerned, you have the right to do whatever you want. Barring illegal activity of course.

That may consist of rocking and rollin’, or playing UNO.

Rose Funeral got their cut from the door, so fuck them for infringing on these kids rights. Kid’s say (do) the darndest things done they?

Also, fuck Rose Funeral, horrible music.

matt

17 year olds are not kids

Ryan B.

For a band named Rose Funeral, they take themselves way too seriously.
metalguy

WHY DID THIS KIDS HAVE UNO CARDS LYING AROUND AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO SEES A PROBLEM WITH THAT

One of the Uno Champions

We planned on playing UNO a few weeks before the show after we found out that they were opening.

Kill All

Rose Funeral are true failures. In the realm of metal, there are always groups of people who will not like your music and will show your band that they do not like what you do. As a mature artist, you have to show respect to your detractors just as you do your loyal fans.

Playing Uno while some band is playing on stage is a dick move, it’s also fucking hilarious. Score some points for these kids. It’s far more creative then heckling.

I, for one, will be sure to take a deck of uno cards to every show where RF is playing from now on.
Ryan B.

They planned it.
Facebook User

If you’re going to talk shit you better know who you’re talking to, period.
elchupacabra

The Rose Funeral story is so ridiculous. My old band got to tour with them this past summer and I’ll be the first one to say that they are fuckin dicks! This story really does not surprise me from the shit that I’ve seen from them and the stories I’ve heard from other bands in the scene. They think they can get away with whatever. We were at a Denny’s one night and they pretty much destroyed the place. That’s just one example of all the bullshit they would do every single night. I mean yea fuckin shit up is cool to a certain extent. Dusty (drummer) definitely thinks he’s the shit and was constantly trying to stir shit up. Like I mentioned, this story really doesn’t surprise at all. I’m not being biased towards them based on my experiences. As a matter of fact, I would have mentioned something nice about them but there’s absolutely nothing except for Devin, who was really chill.

People need to stop being baby back bitches.

Kevin

+ 300000000 for the term baby back bitches

elchupacabra

like that eh? aha

Luke

I was one of the ones playing UNO at Tulsa. Everything that Michael Booher says is completely true.

I tried to take a few videos of us playing the game during Rose Funeral’s set, but the lighting was too dark. We did get a few UNO cards signed by Karl though!

Leah

i remember only playing one and a half games.

Michael Booher

And you cheated to win, you dirt filthy sinner.

RandyJames16

UNO! Pure Genius!

rose funeral are despicable for their reaction. No band has the right to beat up some kids just because the kids don’t like their music. Deal with it, stop whining, and stop saying that you’re gonna “kill” haters; GROW UP OR SHUT UP! It’s a shame that they weren’t charged with assault, then they would’ve been fined, given possible jail time, lose a lot of money, be dropped from Metal Blade, and forced to give up like many other shitty deathcore bands plaguing the scene.

Dreaming Dead
Krisiun
IMMOLATION &
NILE
Now those are some respectable bands! They wouldn’t have acted as childish as rf. I’m so glad that these were the only bands on this tour that showed up to the two shows I went to (Baltimore & Springfield, VA).
Lady Death

Anyone who believes that the 17 year olds were in the wrong has obviously never had the “pleasure” of seeing Rose Funeral live. I saw them on the Vader tour in Cheswick and even gave them my attention for a song. They’re dumbed down deathcore. I think they used the same breakdown in each breakdown (I can’t bring myself to call it a song). The only things that kept my interest were the fact that the bald guitarist looked scared shitless the entire set and the vocalist looked like John Connor from Terminator 2: Judgment Day. Of course they were the only band that had decent sound because they had forty-five minutes to mess with it. It’s a shame that they aren’t mature enough to realize that the tours they are on/have been on will never attract “their” crowd. When people are used to listening to complicated riffs and more diverse breakdowns that compliment the song and aren’t “the song” they will obviously get bored with generic deathcore very quickly. Even then, terrible music is no excuse for the band to put on a horrible show. I bought a Psyopus shirt just because they were fabulous musicians and seemed like great guys. Thats the same reason I love Behemoth and Devildriver. Even though I enjoy the music, the fact that the members of the band treat the crowd with respect makes me want to support them. If RF were cool guys, I would respect them through their set. They brought it upon themselves and now should expect nothing less than card games/board games popping up at their shows. Which reminds me: any females wish to join me next time they come to Pittsburgh? I wonder if they would try to beat up a bunch of girls…

http://www.facebook.com/people/Kyle-Heider/602520830 Kyle Heider

Did you happen to be standing at the rail, a little towards the right at the Cheswick show?

Lady Death

Yeah, with a really tall guy to my right.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Kyle-Heider/602520830 Kyle Heider

Yeah, I thought so. I was the dude with longer hair on your left, and so was Dave (the dude in the screencap) :D

Leah

“I wonder if they would try to beat up a bunch of girls…”

They didn’t mess with me and I was practically sitting on the stage facing away from them and I won the game! I did get caught in the middle of the fight though, when they jumped into the crowd. That kinda sucked.

Michael Booher

Also, Ronnie was the only 17 year old that got involved. He’s also the only one that got kicked out. Everyone else is between 18-20 I believe.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Charles-Albright/1613156129 Charles Albright

I’m pretty positive they’ll jump a bunch of girls.

doombot

Obviously those kids were looking to get a reaction out of the band by doing that and they shouldn’t be crying about the one they got. Not condoning sucker punching people or anything but what did they expect to happen.
Octillus

Hah.

I love Uno.
Sammy

Who is the bigger dick, the kid playing cards in the front to show disrespect or a band so thin-skinned that they would actually want to throw down with a kid for playing cards in the front? Seriously, these faux macho nancies need to pull their panties up and laugh it off. You can be young and have fun until you’re 60, but man you gotta grow up sometime and act like an adult.
Sammy

…assuming this is more than unsubstantiated rumor, that is…
CHUMBAWUMBA

http://www.facebook.com/search/?q=uno+rose&init=quick#!/pages/Playing-UNO-during-Rose-Funerals-set/342993928085?ref=search&sid=1059300016.3641687622..1

Lol check out this facebook page. that didn’t take long at all…

Facebook User

this is the original one

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=310694558587&ref=search&sid=1313713879.4082857880..1

One of the Uno Champions

Just so everyone knows: I was one of the people playing cards that night. The 17 year old was the only minor among us. Yes, playing UNO in front of the stage was a HUGE dick move, but it doesn’t warrant that kind of violence, especially when they single out the youngest one of us to attack. I just want to stress that this story is 100% true. I and my friends would not have have made as big a deal as we did if it weren’t true. There was no police report because we didn’t want to get kicked out, or miss the bands that we payed good money to see, not to mention traveling the distance we did. And as for a video or pictures, when your adrenaline is pumping and you’re worrying about the well-being of your friends, whipping out your cell phone isn’t usually your first thought. As a serious musician, I absolutely hate deathcore, and given the opportunity, the only thing I would have changed was the fact that I didn’t call the police. The reason we have been pushing this so hard is because we want people to know our story. We want everyone to know what happened, about how a band assaulted a bunch of kids because of an argument that occurred over youtube. This isn’t for profit, it isn’t about recognition, it is about justice. They physically assaulted my FRIENDS, and got to walk away, and I refuse to let that go. No one fucks with my friends and gets away with it. I know I have absolutely no case, and they will never see jail time, or even a courtroom. That’s why I’ve been making such a big deal about this and spreading our story. I want people know. I never want Rose Funeral to escape the shadow of the UNO deck hovering ominously above their heads. So i urge you, let people know about our story, tell your friends, join the facebook group, comment in your favorite forums, or if you’re feeling adventurous, play a game of uno at one of their shows. Let them know that for every action, there is a reaction, you reap what you sew, or to quote Slayer, “Payback’s a bitch, motherfucker”.Thanks for reading, Stay Metal.

One of the Uno Champions

Also, Thanks to everyone who is supporting us and telling their friends, thanks to the forums boards at metal-injection and metalsetlists, and a HUGE thank you to MetalSucks for hosting this story, it means a lot to us.

Tyler J. Knepper

This makes me want to get a bitch load of my friends to go to one of their shows in NJ and just toss Uno decks at them… Not gonna lie, I am debating it….

Kourtney

“Let them know that for every action, there is a reaction, you reap what you sew,..”
Clearly you didn’t really think about your actions prior to what you did. Yeah, they shouldn’t have resorted to violence, but you obviously started it and I think it’s fucking childish to do this shit. Grow the fuck up and get on with your life. Sucks that they got you back by beating your ass. Weird.

Michael Booher

Yeah, hitting people from behind when they aren’t expecting it and then ganging up on a minor who could have very easily handed RF their asses in a one on one fight is the equivalent of getting our asses beat.
Weird.

matt

you said it yourself you didnt want to step outside wuss, so you deserved what was coming. deathcore bands are mostly made of idiots, otherwise they would be playing death metal or metalcore

Facebook User

Based on the story, they said something about people playing UNO during their set, which is warrented.

The people playing according to the story THEN proceeded to openly mock the band. If you ask me you were begging to get your ass kicked.

Despite my opinion that violence is rarely necessary, if you’re going to talk shit you better be ready to deal with the repercussions. Opening your mouth and expecting people to sit back and listen to you flap is a pretty fucking stupid move if you ask me.

JT

it wasn’t bj that pulled him off it was me but nevertheless it was a bitch thing for a bitch band and i wonder how they would feel if someone was to say that stuff to there mom haha pussys

Michael Booher

BJ said he pulled someone off of someone. I missed most of the Ronnie getting ganged up part.

Rachel

The Devil Wears Prada, Miss May I, and now Rose Funeral have all followed the footsteps to greatness as being a southwest Ohio band I am not proud of. We need some decent local music here.
Malacoda

Fuck those guys.
Ryan B.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_former_members_of_Rose_Funeral#Former

Current members section.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-McNamara/616832077 Michael McNamara

Rose Funeral did pretty much the same thing to me in NYC when I was 17 but the guitarist would only act tough when he had all the members were behind him. Without them for support, he was being more civilized but as soon as there was four people there he started getting into my face and crap. Pretty cowardly imo if you need a posse to assault a 17 year-old.

4HEAD

http://www.myspace.com/ryanthefuneral

Here is the guitarist, myspace.

Awesome Guy

Don’t feel like scrolling through all these comments to see if it’s been said but the Facebook thing is fake. It’s some retarded fan pretending to Be RF. Not that this makes the situation any less hilarious or them any less douchebags.

Facebook User

i’ve been on that for a little while, i think that’s a lie, the band would have made their own by now.

Awesome Guy

Good point. It would make sense that they would try and cover their asses.

Kourtney

#1: Rose Funeral talks about death and hatred. Those kids were clearly aware of what they were getting into.
#2: Who says they knew those kids were just kids.
#3: It doesn’t matter if they suck or not. Those guys were rude and they got what they deserved…

Fuck everyone. It’s fine to have opinions, don’t be fucking dumb about it.

Facebook User

so by that logic we should all expect GWAR to rape and murder small children and destroy the earth.

you’re being dumb with your opinions ma’am.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Logan-Holloway/1100588308 Logan Holloway

wait they don’t?!!!
Facebook User

Bobby Tims I think your assessment of logic is flawed

Leah

*like ZOMFG they talk about like death and hatred and stuff?? we soooo shouldn’t have messed with them guys LOL*~

You’re a fucking retard.
SonOF

If it’s an eye for an eye, then “what the deserved” would have been to have been made fun of back. Yet the band took it one step further, because they are childish losers.

Octillus

I always love the whole notion of “Getting what they deserved.” Makes everything so animalistic and primate-like.

Of course, deathcore bands sure love beating their chests and yelling at their dads, so the whole thing makes total sense.

RomuluXX

To be fair, that’s the only way retards know how to operate. By using their retard strength.

s. lewis

Rose Funeral are the biggest douchebags (based on prior experiences with the band, including sharing a floor with them on tour). The drummer (boles) is undoubtedly the worst, though I couldn’t imagine him having the strength to beat the shit out of anyone.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Kyle-Heider/602520830 Kyle Heider

Glad to hear it. Would love to hear some stories :D

Carlzilla

First, if you heckle, annoy, irritate, etc. someone, why would you be surprised when they lash out? Rose Funeral is awful sure, but if you’ve planned out an action to purposely piss off the band by doing something that is by your own admission “a huge dick move”, and your not prepared to back up your asshole behavior if necessary, then really I have no sympathy for you, and my advice is don’t be an asshole, you obviously aren’t cut out for it. Or if you want, continue to be assholes, but don’t complain when people attempt to beat your ass for it…after all, it’s only a natural reaction to be purposely pestered, and really when you do that stuff on purpose, you deserve it.

Second, nothing is more annoying from a preforming standpoint then kids standing at shows with their arms crossed, paying no attention to anything. When I was in a band I’d would have rather seen kids playing Uno (great game) to pass the time, then standing there looking bored. Rose Funeral are obviously a gang of sissies who can’t accept that some people don’t like generic false metal sucking up their actual metal show. If you want to play with bands like Immolation etc. then don’t be surprised when kids who aren’t into bro metal and it’s retarded inbred “-core” cousins, aren’t down with your band.

Both parties seems in the wrong here…
http://www.facebook.com/people/William-Morley/618112437 William Morley

Fuck this, have you seen the state of 17 year old today? The little shit was probably gagging for a beating.

http://www.facebook.com/people/William-Morley/618112437 William Morley

*17 year olds
Ryan B.

Oh, everyone’s an asshole when they’re 17.

Waldo

I still stand by if you don’t like the band hang out with you friends outside or something. Thats what my friends and I do and we always enjoy ourselves by not making a scene and “quietly protesting”.
robocop420

this band needs to get a sense of humor. If there’s kids giving you a hard time playing uno in front of you, asked to be dealt in on the next hand. You’ll come off a lot better than if you spit in their face and sucker punch them.
jj

nile sucks and so does rose funeral, why were they so butthurt? shit band + shit support

Facebook User

BLASPHEMY

about the nile part

hersh

NIle fucking owns

http://www.facebook.com/people/Andrew-Sterner/1335958279 Andrew Sterner

Disagreed..I hope you’re tragically killed, and Hell for you is having to listen to Rose Funeral and other core bands….for eternity.

B-dizzle

I met the guitarist (I think he’s not in the band anymore) who looks like the drummer from Darkest Hour. He was cool, but he’s also not in the band anymore.

Also, boring music. Uno rules
http://www.facebook.com/people/Logan-Holloway/1100588308 Logan Holloway

I don’t care for Rose Funeral and was lucky enough to miss them when I attended the show in Raleigh, but I have seen similar things happen when opening bands don’t “fit in”. If this did happen I can understand how frustrating it would be to be the opening band that no one likes especially when there are people who were expecting something entirely different, that does not excuse their actions but I can see how one small thing could have possibly ignited a feeling they have had on the tour in general. Either way both parties were acting like dicks
http://www.hatespire.com Nymik

Disgraceful.
Truthfully

Quite simply, those kids deserved to get their asses handed to them. What makes anyone think that they can be directly insulting to someone without any sense of consequence? The band had every right to respond in the way they did. Honestly, those kids should have put their money where their mouth was and stepped outside when asked, because the truth is, they started the instigation.
And shame on MetalSucks for not backing the bands decision. Verbal abuse is still a form of attacking someone, as is this passive-aggresive nonsense with the Uno game. Are you possibly afraid of this happening to you at a show??? You cant draw your own line in the sand and tell everyone else they cant cross it because you said so. Thats not how it works. Maybe my line is smacking the shit out of you but pulling out a knife is going overboard. What makes ones stance right and the other wrong??? Your opinion…I dont think so.

B-dizzle

That passive-aggressive nonsense didn’t call for physical retaliation. The band could’ve easily ignored them like the adults they are, but they sunk to the level of the Uno players, maybe even farther, by resorting to elementary behavior.
hersh

In the end the fans (us) choose what we like and what we dont like so there for we make the standard of whats good and whats not. Ive been in a band and It does suck when people arent digging it but all you do is keep playing let your heart out then when your done go out and bullshit with the fans and show them your not dickheads. You dont fucking spit in someones face. They are in the entertainment business if they dont like opinions they can sit home and make records and not tour if they cant deal with people not liking there music.

blahblah1234

so did the guitarist quit because of the incident??
i could see that making sense because this band is forever labeled as “UNOCORE” haha
Joshua

Gonna buy a deck of UNO cards now. brb
Rachel

So I guess my question would now be could this situation happen with a Christian band? Probably not.

UnoFTW

Fuck your god!

Brian

If you cannot handle someone not liking your band to the point where you have to go “UGH ME NO LIKE PEOPLE WHO NO LIKE ME, ME HIT WITH FISTS!!!” like a freaking neanderthal, you should probably get some counseling to help you integrate into civilized society, because clearly you haven’t been able to do so on your own.

There are always going to be people who don’t like your music, your art, your style, or any number of things you choose. If you can’t deal with that like an adult, then I am very sorry for you, because you have the maturity level of a grade-schooler.

I used to kind of think Rose Funeral was OK before this, but I will now actively boycott them and let everyone I know who likes metal that they are a bunch of immature cavemen.
SonOF

The kids playing Uno may have been rude, but they had every right to that form of peaceful protest.

If Rose Funeral is planning on fighting everyone that thinks or says they suck, they better start taking some karate classes or something.

RF is coming to my area in April, I think I’m up for staying to watch all the locals as well as RF’s tourmates Wretched (a far superior band), and then bringing a few Uno decks to throw at the headliners. We ain’t scared of a few 20 year olds with some large plugs in their earlobes.
Jacob

Rose Funeral is an incredible band, I think, and are perfectly justified in kicking some ass. =D
Don’t wanna hear the music? Go buy a beer and let another person take your spot. For just as many hecklers there are perfectly good fans who aren’t close enough, besides, Uno is for people who aren’t smart enough to play a real card game, like rummy xD

B-dizzle

Incredible? THEY PLAY BREAKDOWNS AFTER PLAYING BREAKDOWNS

rudebynature

who the fuck cares?
cm

did anyone mention the Vader show in NYC yet???

I guess Rose Runeral fight people who don’t like them at any show they get added to at the last minute.

hm?

is that it?
cm

. . . also, this might not happen if venues had RE-ENTRY
eghl

Rose funeral sucksHAHAHAHAHA
flamesin

why are people allowing Rose Funeral to become relevant?
http://www.last.fm/user/M60Patton Patton

yay for drama
http://www.facebook.com/people/Dianne-Song/520520404 Dianne Song

I didn’t want to say anything but this is getting way too out of hand. When have any of you personally met them and befriended them? My honest opinion, sure at times they can be obnoxious but they are really kind, down to earth people. And like they said, the youngest of the group playing Uno was 17. They even admitted that there was only one 17 year old. And since when does it matter if you’re a minor or not? I’m pretty sure he’s old enough to know what he is doing. He’s a big boy. He knows what he has done. What? They want pity and sympathy that there was a minor involved? Honestly, who the hell cares? And if anything, a little minor acting like that, he sure needs to get his ass kicked and learn to respect elders. How can you pity a group of little douches like that? Yes, I do think it was wrong of Ryan to spit and fight with them. BUT, that group knew what they were doing. And here’s their little sob story. For some courageous group of people that are supposedly trying to be so hardcore. I cannot believe they are gossiping, acting like little sissies. If you caused something, then make sure you know what you’re getting yourself into. Those were the consequences. And just to let you guys know. You guys make it sound like it was a bunch of adults beating on helpless little 10 year olds. Most of the band members are around their age. But yes, Rose Funeral should be more mature about it and acknowledge the fact that not everyone likes their music. And for you uno goers, there’s nothing to be proud about either. You guys are a bunch of sissies hiding behind cards and sending threats. And obviously by reading all the comments. You guys only admit to their fault and not theirs. Isn’t that why you brought the deck of cards? To anger them? Own up to them and grow some balls. Sitting behind the computer and replying to everyone to gain their sympathy. Pathetic. But both parties were at fault. I also got angry with Rose Funeral because that was very irrational and stupid of them to do such thing. If you don’t like their music, just don’t listen to it or just give your opinion amongst forums. You don’t have to stoop down so low as to playing Uno and disrespect someone’s work just to prove your point. You guys were obviously asking for it and were out to get them. Great job. Your plan worked.

Michael Booher

Because playing a card game is the most offensive thing anyone could do…we didn’t tell the story to get sympathy or whatever. We told it to let everyone know that this group of douches don’t deserve to be in a band if they get butt hurt over a card game. Playing Uno is SO low of us to do, and we weren’t trying to prove a point, we were doing something to pass the time so we could hurry up and watch some GOOD musicians perform.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Charles-Albright/1613156129 Charles Albright

I’d agree with you if I haven’t seen Rose Funeral 10+ times and every time they do the same thing. Also, I’ve never seen any of them throw a punch without the guy they’re punching having their back turned. br00tul

http://www.facebook.com/people/Dianne-Song/520520404 Dianne Song

So do you want everyone to believe you innocently played a game of Uno just to kill time? Wasn’t it your way of telling them they suck and to rebel? You can’t seriously think that you didn’t try to piss them off on purpose. Stop acting so naive. It’s so sick.

Michael Booher

We figured it might get some attention from the band. We’ve all had to see them once before, not being impressed at all with them we decided to do something to pass time. We were going to play in one of the booths at the venue, but they were all taken up by merch. I expected something to happen, but I never expected cheap shots and headlocks/hugs.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Francesco-Lo-Presti/501978388 Francesco Lo Presti

They paid to get in, they had a right to play their game of cards if they wanted to. Obviously the venue has no rules barring such actions so I don’t see the problem.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Dianne-Song/520520404 Dianne Song

Cheap shots? You wanted to start shit. Just cuz you couldn’t finish it, and you lost. You make it seem like they attacked you and you didn’t fight back. You brought the deck of Uno cards to start shit. I’m pretty sure you tried to swing a couple of fists but you couldn’t. That doesn’t mean you have to make it sound like they were the only ones at fault. You started the fight, they ended it. Period. You try and make you and your group of friends sound so mature. And yet, I see all these youtube vids, myspace pages, stupid doodles you drew on their pics. Are you kidding me? You’re so full of shit and it’s so sickening. Why are you playing the victim? And yes, you had the right to do whatever you want in the show. But you can’t expect to purposely piss someone off and not even once think that you might get your ass beat for it. Especially when you know this type of music revolves around death & stuff I don’t honestly understand. You don’t like this band? Fine. I don’t even like this type of genre. I hate every form of rock, metal, or whatever you call these type of music. I was at their show because I was invited but I sure as hell wouldn’t play a game in front of the bands just because I don’t like their music. What if I played a game of Uno in front of Niles and got my ass kicked? You would probably think I’m glad that little disrespectful turd got her ass kicked. Nor would I go to a concert and try and piss off the other bands. The normal thing to do when you don’t like a band is just not give a response. You guys took the cards to be a dick. Don’t deny it. And you can’t act like you didn’t expect that to happen. It just makes me mad because you started something and you’re totally out to get them. I would be infuriated with Rose Funeral if they picked on some innocent concert goer that did nothing. But that wasn’t the case. Maybe you guys didn’t deserve to get beat that badly, but you guys had what was coming to you. You guys aren’t some little saints. Judging by all those stupid anti rose funeral things you guys made, I can probably tell how obnoxious, stubborn, and immature you guys are. Boohoo, I don’t like Rose Funeral. I am going to play Uno to piss them off because I don’t like them and I want everything my way. Now, that I got my ass beat… let me start gossiping. Pathetic. You can’t start a fire and complain when you get burned.

Ryan

Dang, many, many valid points.
Michael Booher

First of all, I didn’t make any doodles or anti rose funeral things. I told the story. Other people made the shit, I can’t help what random people do with their time. Secondly, no one got their ass kicked. I don’t consider a punch from behind and then a hug/headlock an ass beating. No, I didn’t swing any fists because security got in the way and made me go to the back of the venue before anyone had time to do anything. I didn’t see much of what happened when they decided to gang up on Ronnie, but he tells me that ryan was trying to force him to apologize for some reason, and he said no. Tons of bands have had much worse things happen to them at their shows, they get pelted with full cans of beer, full bottles of water, people get on stage and fuck with them, people scream at them that they suck, etc. And those bands just play their set and leave, which gains them SOME respect.. When a band thinks they can beat people into liking their music they lose fans and respect. Read Eyal Levi’s and Sacha from Intronaut’s blogs about it.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Dianne-Song/520520404 Dianne Song

Umm… from what I know. One of your friend’s gf drew that picture of Rose Funeral explaining how they got their band name… and from what I know, she was part of the uno group and so was her bf. And did you not compose and conduct the webpages and videos? How dumb do you think I am? And fine, Rose Funeral went a little too far. But don’t expect to go to a metal show and not get your ass kicked if you do a dick move. That’s sort of ignorant on your part. You had a 50% chance of getting your ass kicked, and you did it anyways to be obnoxious. You were aware of that so please stop the complaining and grow a pair will ya? If I attended a party with a lot of gangsters and I did a dick move, I would expect to get shot even if it was something so little. I know better than that. You just have a huge lack of judgement. It happened, get over it. You knew there was a possibility of that. Like I said, if you were an innocent concert goer, that IS a problem. But you’re obviously not. Some bands have short tempers, some don’t. You were unlucky, but you were playing with fire.

Michael Booher

I realize my friend’s girlfriend drew that, I never said my friend’s didn’t do it, I said I didn’t. I didn’t compose or conduct any of those Facebook pages. Check them out, you will clearly see that on the original group (The Uno Champions) that a friend of mine, Ryan Bevard, is the creator. None of us even knew he was going to, he just did it. And I need to say that I’m fairly sure that RF didn’t “kick my ass” because of Uno. Right after their set they said to Ronnie “Are you the one who was talking shit on Youtube?” They were mainly mad because I told a few of their 13 year old fans that their favorite band sucks. Like I said, I never intended for it to get into a huge situation, I just wanted people to hear the story.

Nick Graziano

if these kids we’re playing uno they wanted a rise out of the band. they go it. who gives a shit if they got their asses beat or not. 17 is almost 18 which makes them almost adults and mature enough to know that they were being assholes. I knew how to act when I was 17 that something like that would be a good way to get beat up. As for “death-core sucks” comments, that just is not true. you just don’t like the music. Your opinion is not universal and you’re not important enough to make judements like that.
Ryan

I just can’t believe such an insignificant situation has become such a big deal after all the horrible crap I’ve seen at shows. It’s not like it’s the first time a bunch of assholes got into a fight with some other assholes over some stupid shit. Personally, I like Rose Funeral, it’s just music to me and I’ve got more important things to worry about than “launching an attack on the death-core genre”. In a couple years these kids will too.
brandon

fuckin shitty music
deeds

david hill = legendary troll
http://www.facebook.com/people/Cj-Miller/838220454 C.j. Miller

Funny shit. If any kids played Uno during my bands show, I wouldn’t get pissed.

I’d play some Uno with them.
http://www.facebook.com/people/George-McFascistington/1655260258 George McFascistington

To be honest if you think deathcore is “gay” because of some stupid ass breakdowns, then its not your choice of music, simple as that. Don’t fucking disrespect other people’s music because you do not enjoy it. I personally enjoy Rose Funeral because I find their music appealing, but if you don’t: no one cares. So don’t go around calling music you don’t like gay simply because you don’t like it, thats incredibly fucking immature. Rose Funeral in this instance was immature for reacting the way they did and so was the 17 year old but, I will also say that if I was in Rose Funeral’s position and was being openly disrespected by some punk ass kid who doesn’t like my music, ill call him out on it. So I do respect Rose Funeral for standing up for themselves, although it might have been quite extreme.

Also, I just want to point out stupid people again. If you seriously go around listening to lets say brutal death metal or gore or extreme metal like that and call anything below that for example deathcore or metalcore or hardcore or fuck even “scene” core, gay just because you don’t like it or the people who listen to it, you are an immature little child. I will once again be honest and say that I was like that about 4 months ago with scene music but I stopped caring. Its music and if someone else enjoys it as much as I enjoy my music then more power to them. I have learned that Music is music, stop labeling it, just enjoy it, or don’t.

Peace,
George McFascistington

Chaintrain

+1

All the way. I am a fan of Rose Funeral. Not so much of the Resting Sonata, but I absolutley love Crucify. Kill. Rot. I’ve been hearing that same kind of immature bullshit about this years Summer Slaughter tour. “OMG SO MUCH DEATHCORE WOW THIS SUX, STOOPID SCENE KIDZ.” Very repetative. If someone is into their music and enjoys it, that’s respectable in my opinion.

http://www.myspace.com/sacromnemic david ahriman

childish all around. Everyone in this situation failed.
http://www.myspace.com/sacromnemic david ahriman

childish all around. Everyone in this situation failed. If you have hecklers of any sort, deal with it. Unprofessional. Secondly, calling a 17 year old punk out on some internet insults? Seriously? He wanted that response out of you guys, and he hooked you like a stupid worm. You ever tried crystal meth? Want some? Dumb ass band. Dumb ass kids. Just go outside when they’re playing. Geez.
Anonymous

i’m going to say this DID happen, simply because their dumbass merch guy picked a fight with someone here in raleigh as well. “$5 cds!! just $5!!” “dude, i wouldn’t take that shit if YOU paid ME” “OH YEAH? LET’S GO OUTSIDE, MOTHERFUCKER. I’LL TAKE YOU RIGHT NOW!”

okay, tough guy. whatever makes you feel like a big man.

i would also like to know why people just repeat themselves when there is a confrontational situation.

but hey, that could just be me noticing something irrelevant.
Jack Herer

In general death metal focuses on the darker aspects of life often involving death, violence and mutilation. Its one thing to sing about it but its another thing to act upon it. At least they showed some balls which is more that can be said for the UNO pussies. They did the world a favour by putting those ignorant scene fucks in their places. If they disliked the band they should have just fucked off somewhere else. This was a gret opportunity for RF and they were probably grateful for the opportunity and then having to play a set to a bunch of arrogant death metal fans must be very undermining. Death metal ans are the worst ive come accross. There such judgemental dicks who call anyone who isnt like them a pussy coz there not ”brutal” enough for them. I do like DM but am put off by the fans. One would expect a shitload of hating to follow soon after
kyle spear

all i can say is: what do idiotic teenagers have to gain by slandering this band on their facebook. what kind of life can you claim to lead when you have nothing better to do than go around hating on bands and stuff?? why cant dumbass ppl just stick to the things they like and if there is something they DISlike, leave it well enough alone?? im sure if this band is guilty of having attacked supposed haters, they had every right to do so.. its absolutely absurd to poke fun at a band when they are on stage by playing a card game or something of that manner. i was once in a band myself and showed the utmost respect to EVERY band that took the stage. if you dont like something and you are prepared to run your mouth about it instead of minding the things you DO like, be prepared to face the consequences which amount to this: not everyone in this world is going to turn their heads when you blatantly attack them for doing what they love and have an intense passion for.
Nat

what fuckers they are. I won’t be buying their albums.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Kristofr-White/1447190639 Kristofr White

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/5641/rosefunoralblack.jpg
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7193/rosefunoralwhite.jpg

Two of the Rose Funoral shirts I’m going begin printing in the upcoming weeks.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1818773972 Cj Coronado

I’m a year late, but I would buy the fuck out of that

AnticosmicOverload

hahaha, playing uno is a genious idea.
rose funeral are around their age so its not so bad, but honestly i dont see much wrong with the band. they arent like most other deathcore, they are listenable at the least.
http://Yeah. Yeah Smith

Yeah, I’m thinking Rose Funeral sucks.
Shanegrahl

FUCK YEAH i think rose funeral did the right thing =]
http://www.facebook.com/chodystylez Cody Miles

Fuck Rose Funeral

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