ERIC GUENTHER OF FROM EXILE AND LEVI/WERSTLER PROCLAIMS: “MUSIC IS DEAD.”

Tuesday, April 20th, 2010 at 11:30am by
Yes, this is all stuff we have heard before: the industry is hurting, the RIAA is evil, fuck the labels, fuck the downloading fans, fuck the band for hiking up their merch and ticket prices, fuck the big companies who cheat the fans out of cheaper tickets (their names begin with “L” and “T”), etc. The rhetoric of this discussion is a bit tiring when you consider that every independent musician out there is trying to take this discussion of the “new music industry” as the new gospel and become a superstar… in an era designed to defeat them.

In the music game, the barrier of entry has been lowered. Is this good or bad for the artistry of music?

Look at what happened to MySpace. Today, it still serves some function, but I think we can all agree that it is at least somewhat broken. Just from judging some of the comments readers have posted here, the attitude is that the “Myspace-band generation” is beginning to pass. Maybe this is just wishful thinking, but we all have seen how much easier it is to have your little brother’s one guitar and fruity loops drumkit demo uploaded and readily available on their “BIAXIAL ANALISSCUS MAXiMUS — LOOKING FOR SINGER/DRUMMER/BASS PLAYER!!!! TECH/DEATH METAL/AFRO BEAT” Myspace account. Although the tools available today allow everyone to throw some music out there and have it heard (basically, throw poop at a wall and see what sticks), do they really help the industry? To be more accurate, does it really develop and evolve the artistry of the music itself? Or does it simply desensitize our ears as listeners and oversaturate the musical landscape with artists with less dedication, talent, and creativity than those who were able to survive the trials required to accomplish the odyssey recording of a brilliant record, say, thirty years ago? When buying a randomly chosen record off the shelf thirty years ago, wasn’t there a better chance that this record would actually be something worth listening to ten-plus years later?

In reference to my metaphor, I think what has been happening on MySpace is more like watching thrown shit slide down the wall, taking a picture, and calling that a band/music/ “art.”

I am saying all of this with FULL realization that I am as much a part of this as anyone else trying to build a career in music these days. It is a sign of our times and unavoidable. When recording From Exile‘s Monolith with Eyal, we would often joke about how much worse our recordings might be without digital editing. Most bands we listen to these days use these capabilities to the technological limit. Think about Metallica, recording the Black album on reel to reel. I might get eaten alive for this, but I pretty much hated Metallica until I saw “A Year and a Half in the Life of… “; Wacky moments like Bob Rock:”Lars, will you make the next couple versions a little peppery off the top… put a little more weight into it…”, Lars:”If you want weight, I’m your fucking guy.”, Hetfield:”Yeah, make us wait forever.”  At about six minutes in this video…

For kicks, check out the reel-to-reel the Black Album was recorded on at about 5:21

Hetfield talks about his 4-track from 1984 that turned into a diamond record. Uh… that shit don’t happen no more. My point is, it took a lot more support, funding, technical help, and a classic dose of luck to get a recording together. These days, it is much easier, which makes it harder to actually respect the work that goes into a completed ‘record’. Many musicians getting their start these days are unaware of this history, it seems.

On to my second point: record labels are freaking out and pointing fingers at everyone; their profits are disappearing because their business model does not function correctly anymore. This is definitely true… But when 80% of what a business tries to sell is a trashy product, year after year, doesn’t this devalue the artistry and work of the medium as well? It’s no surprise the labels are panicking, but (FUCK!) have some personal accountability. Think about the middle to late 90s. Sure, I won’t argue that there were some great records produced in that time period that had a massive impact on me personally and professionally (Radiohead – OK Computer and NIN – The Fragile come to mind), but most of what was selling in mainstream numbers during those years were polished turds. I’m looking at you, Jive records (responsible for Britney, Backstreet, N*SUCK, you get the picture). Basically, the idea of pairing a talented producer with a sex symbol sold a lot of records. This is not music as an art; this is a formulaic business model design for maximum record sales and nothing else.

A loser named Lou Pearlman put boy bands together and managed them, made a metric butt-ton of cash by writing very slanted contracts to young, naive, and eager artists, and now is serving a 25 year sentence in the federal pen for a number of money-making schemes that backfired. The Backstreet Boys, in 1997, after a #1 hit record and a year of touring “larger than life” venues, had only earned $300,000 to be split between six of them. “Wait,” says your little sister, “there are only five Backstreet Boys, stupid!” No, their contract stated that Pearlman was to be paid as Producer, Manager, AND SIXTH MEMBER. Let’s take a look at the 6th Backstreet Boy:

Yeah right, Pearlman has exactly zero musical ability; this was obviously all about money. He and his label made millions before his little boy-toys caught on. Nevermind the question of whether not you would be in a boy-band… would you let THIS guy in YOUR band?

I hate to even insult readers by acknowledging these (scam) artists here, but I’m sure you can see my point. The industry should place some of the blame on itself for the mess artists are in, because for years, they have been disrespecting the consumer with a contrived product designed to do nothing but pad their wallets, and, often enough, screw over the ones on stage that make all those little girls scream! Maybe we shouldn’t be mad at Britney (she’s done more damage to herself than any of us could ever muster), but instead dissatisfied with the products being shoved down consumers throats. I think most of us here are.

It took a different type of musician to make it to the point of having the slightest opportunity to make a recording back when it was only reel-to-reel. Today, MySpace has diluted the pool of “music” so horribly that, combined with the industry’s widespread prioritization of money over art, it is a wonder ANY worthwhile artistic output makes it through the static anymore. There IS hope, though… It’s not that there isn’t brilliant music being made, sometimes it just needs to be searched out. Similar to the days when all we could do to find fresh music was talk to our friends, read a Rolling Stone, or hang out at a local used record shop, the listener of discerning taste has to DIG… A new type of digging, for sure, one involving wikipedias, googles, Oinks, piratebays, last.fm, whatever the case may be… But the essential motivation and spirit of “digging”  for new music in 2010 is nearly unchanged. An optimist’s perspective would say that these new resources (even MySpace) will result in a shedding-of-the-bullshit; listeners will easily find the music that appeals to them the most, and artists will find their audiences naturally and avoid the gatekeepers of the past: things like recording technology, record labels, and radio. To be determined, I suppose.

Who knows, what the fuck do I know anyway, I’ve never recorded on reel-to-reel and my unsigned band still uploads music recorded in a home studio to a MySpace page… But at least I can sleep at night knowing that I don’t have either of these asshats in my “band”:

-EG

  • d00shc00gr

    Well said. Now, what can we DO about it?

    • AreWeHereNow?

      Amen, brotha!

  • fritz

    A great article, and I agree 100% The worst part is, there are so few people who are willing to look past the manufactured bullshit and “dig” for the real art out there.

    • http://verbalspace.blogspot.com verbal space

      ultimately, that’s the problem with the argument, though i completely agree with its premises and conclusions. manufactured bullshit exists and gets explosive numbers because people think it’s quality music. probably because it’s overproduced and has some “sexy” teen oversigning it. then again, what do i know about pop music; i listen to metal. and I’m forced to find some semblance of quality out there.

      to that segment of the music market,. it’s only worth listening to if it’s your local KISS FM station.

  • Gecko

    Strangely enough, I basically had this exact conversation with a friend of mine in the gym last night. We’re both musicians, and we always talk bands/gear/merch/shop/etc., and why the industry is imploding on itself, and I think Eric said it very well. Manufactured garbage, and forced listenership. I mean, I live just outside NYC, and there’s no more rock station in the whole city, but I can hear Lady GaGa on 3 different stations at the same time. That’s pathetic. There’s so much accessible music available, that it’s diluting the talent because anyone can make a Facebook or MySpace, and if they’re sexy enough, someone will sign them (Ke$ha anyone?). It’s like when sports leagues expand. You now have new markets, and a shortage of players, so you’re going to get second rate guys to fill the slots. I personally, still love finding new music worth my time. Read the thank yous in liner notes from bands you like, get in early for opening acts, hell, ask the guy in the store what he’s listening to, and you can still get some great stuff. Okay, enough ranting…back to my bong…it’s 420 after all…

  • evilfatguy

    I think the kid in that last picture just went super saiyan…
    I liked this article; it’s more beefy stuff to chew on without much puff. What’s the deal with the higher quality of writing on here lately?

  • SP420

    Blame the fucking public. They’re the real culprit. They continue to buy this horseshit in a package shoved out by record companies while at the same time causing their demise through downloading.

    You can’t put too much blame on the beaten, bloodied whore (record companies) for still offering her festering vagina to the desperate fuck (the public) whose standards match only what is available to them (or at least readily accessible to them).

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Guenther/12800781 Eric Guenther

      Dude;

      I pretty much agree with you here… it’s almost a chicken vs. egg argument… I was afraid to take the discussion down this path; I can be a bitchin’ misanthrope if you get me going. It just seemed too damn easy… Clubbing a baby seal, shooting fish in a barrel, etc. etc.

      Yes. People are shit. They will remind you of this fact every day; do not underestimate it. They murder, lie, cheat, steal, listen to commercial radio, and any number of other brainless and scummy things. This being understood, don’t you think it would have been a little boring to ‘go there’ right away?

  • Russ
  • http://thenumberoftheblog.com/ groverXIII

    On the bright side of things, thanks to the internet it does make it easier to dig through the shit to find the true gems… hell, of the really great albums I’ve heard this year, half of them came from unsigned bands or dudes giving their shit away for free (Tre Watson, Cloudkicker, I’ll Eat Your Face, and yes, From Exile).

    So, really, it’s a double-edged sword.

    Also, Eric, hurry up with the damn covers EP!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Guenther/12800781 Eric Guenther

      definitely a double edged sword;

      and, groverXIII, the Nine Inch Nails cover EP is underway; we are about halfway done… There are some ‘other things’ tying me up recording session-wise until the end of summer, so it will hopefully be finished by the winter… It’s only 4 songs, but the mind fuck is going to be totally free on our website. It’s been great to work on; at first it was just a cool idea and the more we have been tracking, the more exciting it has become… can’t wait

  • Slaughterhouse

    Sweet read!

  • Justin Foley

    This makes no sense.

    Are you lamenting the barriers to entry being lower? The lower profit margins? Some unmeasurable benchmark to quality that’s been magically dropped?

    The biggest thing that’s different about the world of music is that production and distribution have been drastically decentralized. This has had some collateral damage that is unfortunate, mainly that high quality studios and technical professionalism have become less financially sustainable. But everything else is better.

    You think that major labels have been successful quality control? The only thing that has EVER been of interest to majors is money. At times this has been tied up in producing quality product, but much more often it’s been about creating a market, capitalizing on a trend, maximizing profits at the expense of the artist and consumer and being a force for evil on the planet. Manufacturing boy bands is nothing new – take a look at the Monkees. Take a look at crooning teens from the 50′s. Take a look at 3/4 of the pop acts with records in the top ten since the inception of Billboard.

    Really – the randomly chosen record off the shelf thing is absolutely out to lunch. Have you ever gone digging for records in a Salvation Army? The incredible amount of crap that is out there is staggering. Tens of thousands of records put out in the 60s, 70s, 80s that no one cares about any more. Better for the environment that so many things like that today will just evaporate when a hard drive dies, rather than choking up a landfill with remixes of a Klymaxx single.

    As a fan of music, I’m genuinely glad that it’s easier for people to make and share music. I do not lament the impact of lower profit margins because I’ve never had an expectation that someone should just expect to be able to make a living off of creating music that they love. Almost none of my favorite bands have ever been able to do that, and my band makes decisions at times that are contrary to that as a goal. Couldn’t be happier.

    Look, I appreciate your taking the time to put some thoughts together about something that you care about. But your argument is incoherent and factually screwy. The point about the Metallica 4-track going gold, you say that doesn’t happen anymore. Does that mean that it used to happen more frequently? Or that the Black Album, the overproduced piece of trash that it is, is a better artistic statement than Ride the Lightning? (By the way, that is a digital recorder – could be a DASH.) And the point about not recording on reel to reel – I guess you’re entirely unaware that many folks still record this way by choice.

    I don’t say all of this because I want to start shit with you. I don’t have any desire to start shit with you. But people who listen to or make music are not all minnows in a river. For folks who want to create and share music with as many other people as possible, who want to take control of the production and distribution of their music, who want to listen to as many different things as possible, the past ten years have been the dawning of a new glorious age. The change has not been without pain as I mention above. but to look back to the payola-enforced, pay-the-artist-last, ripoff profit margins of major (and many independent) label days of pre-2000 as anything other than awful is either willfully dishonest or ignorant.

    = Justin

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Guenther/12800781 Eric Guenther

      Justin; Thanks for the great response. Let’s take this point-by-point…

      “Are you lamenting the barriers to entry being lower? The lower profit margins? Some unmeasurable benchmark to quality that’s been magically dropped?”

      Yes, I am lamenting, to a certain extent, the fact that the barrier to entry is lower. Perhaps it would be more accurate to say “waxing philosophical”. The barrier to entry being lower has helped me, as it has helped all of us, professional or otherwise, make more music. It would be disingenuous at best, or simply ignorant, at worst, to forget this fact. Profit margins are something foreign to me; as a (still) semi-professional aspiring musician, I’m not ashamed of the fact that I still bar-tend 2 nights a week. So I won’t comment on the subject.

      I agree with you 100% that music production and distribution being decentralized is the biggest thing that is different about the world of music. This would fit perfectly into my argument

      “You think that major labels have been successful quality control?”

      No, sir, I don’t want to step in front of that train. Major labels have never been successful quality control. What I am proposing is that, at one time, what served the label’s monetary interests ALSO served the art form’s interest. At one time, many records released were artistically exciting as well as lucrative for the businesses involved in promoting and distributing them.

      You might be right here; “much more often it’s been about creating a market, capitalizing on a trend, maximizing profits at the expense of the artist and consumer and being a force for evil on the planet.” but I won’t go as far to assume that you’re suggesting that records like Dark Side of The Moon, Abbey Road, and Aja were as purely money-driven as some of my examples. I know you don’t believe that. I can’t really prove one way or another, though. The music that I experience from today versus the music that I experience from another time is all I’m really qualified to discuss. Maybe the fact that I didn’t grow up in the 50s, 60s, or 70s and live through hearing all of the extraneous bullshit that won’t ever make it to my ears in 2010 changes my perspective. I would bet on it.

      What I DO know, however, is that in the age of the internet, media that people are interested in will potentially live forever. For example, those shit records you speak of that no one cares about any more, they are in someone’s basement degrading by the day, and they will be gone and un-listenable one day if no one digitizes them. If no one today is interested in Klymaxx remixes, they will not be digitized, they will die with the physical medium. Music being produced today, however, will live much longer. It may very well, as you say, die in a fiery hard drive crash. Here’s to hoping so – but part of my point is that the digital medium holds much more potential for long-term Klymaxx remix torment.

      This is a scary thing to think about. I’ll use Chris Squire of Yes’ only solo record, Fish Out of Water as an example. Up until about 3 years ago, I could not find a digital copy of this anywhere, although I had a beat up 12″ I stole from my dad. It led me to the conclusion that, if a recording is not trendy enough today to be in someone;s record collection (someone that feels like digitizing it, too), it will not be digitized, and potentially lost forever! Very scary when you think about Chris Squire’s recordings being lost; very comforting when you think about Klymaxx, or whatever.

      You are correct, also, that manufacturing talent is nothing new to the music industry. The reason that the late 90s examples I point to are useful is because this all happened at the same time that the people were empowered with the internet. Napster, limewire, bit torrent, blah blah blah… we know the story. The reason I bring those 90s examples up isn’t because they were the first to happen; it is because they, in a sense, got caught. Kids (INCLUDING ME!) listening to music these days can get angry about it because they know better, thanks to myspace, napster, whatever… They can see the label shenanigans in a way that was harder to see before.

      As to the Metallica segment; I don’t think there’s any point on arguing about which Metallica record is the best artistic statement on a heavy metal news site, but, yes, I will say that diamond records do not happen as frequently as they once did. I’ve never been the biggest Metallica fan… Sorry, I guess I could have been more clear here.

      Yes, of course I am aware that people do choose to record on reel-to-reel still. It is not a bad decision for some people and some projects. The only reason I brought it up is because it requires more technical support and personnel to manage making a recording with reel-to-reel than it does today on a pirated copy of Fruity Loops or Ableton Live. “Decentralizing music production”, just as you said…

      I am not saying that we need to go back to selling records as an industry model. I’m not stupid. I’m simply trying to throw some ideas out there as to why the music world is the way it is. No, “music is not dead”, that’s editorial license; tongue-in-cheek rhetoric.

      I agree with most of what you’re saying, so maybe I could have been more accurate in some of my statements. I also 100% agree with your last paragraph… I wish I had said it so well myself.

      This is a discussion that will and should continue well beyond the scope of this article… I think we are all trying to ‘figure this problem out’.

      • AreWeHereNow?

        You guys touch on the point briefly, but I think it is important to recognize that we have very skewed perceptions of past music markets. All of the ANALISSCUS MAXiMUS’s of the past are in the landfills. They never made news headlines. No one made documentaries about them. They just faded away without us ever knowing they existed.

        You guys mention that you hope that the the bad music will die in a hard drive crash? Who is qualified to be THE GATEKEEPER? Perhaps, there should not be one. Be careful what you wish for, Eric, because Monolith is not on THAT many hard drives. As you stated, a work like Chris Squire’s barely made the cut. I would rather preserve a thousand ANALISSCUS MAXiMUS’s for the hope that one Fish Out of Water is in the batch.

        I believe that the eternal preservation of ALL music (and information) means great things for the future of music. We will see more and more cases of artists like Nick Drake who sold about 5000 albums while he was alive, but 30 years later, there is great rise of interest in his work spawning from a random VW commercial in 2003. Think of all the painters that have achieved success generations after their deaths. The success of a musical work will no longer be so restricted by its time, current popular culture, or promotion blasts during the release week. Every piece of music will have the opportunity to survive with the possibility of it finding its proper time and place in the future.

        To tie this into the wider concept of all information, if we all don’t drink or smoke too much, we just might get the chance to preserve digital copies of ourselves, upload into the cloud, and achieve the same immortality as our music. At which point, we can all find our most fitting time and place to thrive. THE SINGULARITY IS NEAR, my friends (read Ray Kurzweil!)!!!

        I have more to say, but I am off to work. I’ll share more later.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Guenther/12800781 Eric Guenther

          AreWeHereNow? ; you are pretty much correct in everything you say here… We definitely have a skewed perception of past music markets. I would rather have eternal preservation of all music in order to prevent Chris Squire’s work from disappearing.

          I’m not exactly wishing for anything to die in a hard drive crash though, just hoping that the clutter and bad stuff goes away so I can focus on the cream. You’re also correct that there should not be one gatekeeper.

          You are absolutely right! Monolith is NOT on that many hard drives, hahaha…it could go away forever. I hope not, though, and the best I can do to prevent that is to get it out there to as many people as possible. If their collective ‘gatekeeper’ mind deems it unworthy to pass through history and the consciousness of music listeners, so be it.

          Throwing shit at the wall to see if it sticks: http://www.myspace.com/fromexile profile name updated… TECH/DEATH METAL/AFRO BEAT

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Lee/1565314465 Mark Lee

            You can be sure that Monolith will stay on my hard drives for tens of years — 4 hard drives work constantly in a mirrored RAID and two remote servers back up all my stuff. Hehe. Unless 2012 is true…

    • AreWeHereNow?

      Man, more blogs need to adopt the rating comments function that you see on youtube now. I can’t believe that I have to dig through all kinds of crap to find in-depth, meaningful content like this. Foley’s comment should be the first thing I see below the article!

  • erik

    The fans have turned their back on the music industry. This has nothing to do with the Backstreet Boys or Nsynch. If anything, fans of that style of music support it by purchasing the product. This juvenile concept that musicians can exist solely on their “love” of music is a joke. Love won’t buy you a cup of coffee. Many musicians are forced to quit seriously pursuing music because their “fans” won’t buy a $5 cd cause instead, they spent $60 at the bar drinker Jager Bombs.

    Metal fans are cheap. They are full excuses, but fail when it comes to supporting the music they “love”. Their claims of supporting bands on the road are highly exaggerated in order for them to feel justified in downloading 400 bands albums a week. Who has time to listen to 400 cds a week? No one. They simply hoard music so they can brag about how insane their mp3 collection is.

    A real fan buys the cd which supports the label which then supports the band. This glorification of unsigned bands is a joke. 99% of serious unsigned bands with awesome music and great work ethics fail because they can’t get the real publicity,connections, and tours a label would give them.

    The Internet is an over hyped joke. The internet is virtual. No one pays for anything on the internet. Internet publicity is not taken seriously. Anything that doesn’t make money is not taken seriously.

    If “fans” would buy the cds or legitimate downloads of the bands they “love” then music could prosper. It takes money to simply survive. Internet “fans” don’t understand this concept. They are cheap greedy bastards who want something for nothing.

    • James Koch

      hey man, not all of us are cheap.
      i support the bands i like and deserve the support, buy shirts, cd’s and posters.
      but the internet for me is more along the lines of a “listen to the band, like em, buy the merch” ordeal.
      agreed though, I do know a lot of them that have a few downloading websites as their top viewed.

    • gojirasaurus

      well i dont have the money to buy all the music i want or the lack of morals to download, so i make youtube playlists of uploads and listen from my computer when im home. and i have stolen several hundred songs in the past( never albums though)

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Guenther/12800781 Eric Guenther

      although I’m not sure I totally agree with your post, Erik, one of Eyal’s other posts from today touches on this http://www.metalsucks.net/2010/04/20/maybe-people-dont-go-to-shows-because-bands-suck/

    • AreWeHereNow?

      I like that you brought up people spending money on booze.
      Million Dollar Idea: Start selling albums at bars!

  • James Koch

    I remember the “Job for a myspace” wave of hatred on this website, i thought it was hilarious.

  • http://maninthebowlerhat.blogspot.com/ Deven

    No sorry I don’t agree. You use the same argument that any piece of shit on Fox News uses. That everything was great and now its horrible, when in reality, its pretty much the same and you are too stupid to realize it. Like Justin said, all these major record companies care about is money. Sure, with the current system, anyone can throw their shit on the wall, but in those piles of shit, there are some really great artists that would have never been heard under the old system.

    • Dubs

      +1

      You also have to realize that, as of right now, music seems to have reached a ceiling. Name anything and it might have already been done. Egyptian death metal? done. Song structures based on acoustics and heavy electric guitars? Been done. I could go on and on.

    • Dubs

      +1

      You also have to realize that, as of right now, music seems to have reached a ceiling. Name anything and it might have already been done. Egyptian death metal? done. Song structures based on acoustics and heavy electric guitars? Been done. I could go on and on.

    • Dubs

      +1

      You also have to realize that, as of right now, music seems to have reached a ceiling. Name anything and it might have already been done. Egyptian death metal? done. Song structures based on acoustics and heavy electric guitars? Been done. I could go on and on.

    • Dubs

      +1

      You also have to realize that, as of right now, music seems to have reached a ceiling. Name anything and it might have already been done. Egyptian death metal? done. Song structures based on acoustics and heavy electric guitars? Been done. I could go on and on.

    • Dubs

      +1

      You also have to realize that, as of right now, music seems to have reached a ceiling. Name anything and it might have already been done. Egyptian death metal? done. Song structures based on acoustics and heavy electric guitars? Been done. I could go on and on.

    • Dubs

      +1

      You also have to realize that, as of right now, music seems to have reached a ceiling. Name anything and it might have already been done. Egyptian death metal? done. Song structures based on acoustics and heavy electric guitars? Been done. I could go on and on.

    • Dubs

      +1

      You also have to realize that, as of right now, music seems to have reached a ceiling. Name anything and it might have already been done. Egyptian death metal? done. Song structures based on acoustics and heavy electric guitars? Been done. I could go on and on.

  • erik

    Everything was great, now it’s shit. There are a lot of bands that could make a simple living playing music if people actually bought cds.

  • Ben

    I think the thing to keep in mind is that we’re in a transitional period right now where people are still throwing their shit at the wall with the false assumption that they’re going to hit it big as rock stars. I think once things shit to the realization that that’s not so much the case anymore, things will die down a bit as far as over-saturation goes and the playing field will be a bit more manageable. Hell, if anything, it will be improved because all the money grubbing assholes won’t have any reason to be involved. We’ll be left with the musicians who are doing it for the love of the art.

  • AreWeHereNow?

    Who on here WOULDN’T jump at the chance to steal some dough from the Backstreet Boy’s pockets? The dude was fat and ugly, but apparently he had a brain behind the gigantic, drooping face.

    People get screwed when they forget the music business is a BUSINESS. If you want music to be your career, treat it like a job. Stupid people rarely succeed.

  • builtforsin

    HAHAHAH you have METAL SANAZ as a myspace friend. That is like the definitive myspace metal whore.

    You fail :(

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Guenther/12800781 Eric Guenther

      haha, dude… who is metal sanaz … i think i’ve logged into myspace twice since we updated some music last August, so i guess that is a fail, in a way…

  • http://aggroinlineuk.blogspot.com Clarky Cat

    Music isn’t dead. You’ve just got to make the effort to go out there and search for the stuff you like. I make an effort to search for decent, up-and-coming bands and then pay fair prices to support their careers. This is because they deserve it. I don’t pay money for shit music and I would never support a shit artist just because ‘everyone else’ is listening to them. That’s the real problem with music.

    The vast majority of music fans just go with the flow and follow what everyone else is doing. The current music climate lives off these sort of people. However, the current climate also allows music fans to make up their own, god-damn mind and really helps the freedom of choice. It’s so much easier to tune into a random band’s MySpace page, listen to the tracks on offer, make up your mind and then decide whether or not you want to support it or not.

    It would appear a lot of people want some sort of musical revolution to happen. These people really do need to take a step back and realise that we’re living in one. We have an enormous catelogue of music at our finger-tips. This only happened during the past decade.

    The internet hasn’t ruined anything; it’s made everything vastly more accessible and easy to promote. Remember when the only way to get underground records was by mail-order or pay silly prices for a magazine full of hyperbole for shit bands that the record companies were paying them to promote? Who the fuck wants to go back to that when real music fans can run a blog like MetalSucks and promote whoever the fuck they want to, regardless of money? I recommended a band to this blog called No Made Sense a little while back and they featured them. Tell me how that isn’t exactly how music promotion should work.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Guenther/12800781 Eric Guenther

      you’re right… sending to independent blogs is the only way my unsigned band has gotten any press, our album is pirated across the world, by people who would never have heard it if it were around 10 years ago.

      I’m definitely playing the devil’s advocate here. I leverage the everliving shit out of the internet’s capabilities and the advantages given to us in this ‘revolution’. The internet hasn’t ruined anything. It’s given many of us the possibility of a future in music.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Guenther/12800781 Eric Guenther

      and it goes without saying that the entire landscape will be changed by the amount of knowledge, information, and research available through the internet… YouTube alone is AMAZING for musicians and researching players, learning styles, etc. I get lost in it for hours at a time

  • Joey

    Hallelujah brother. Well said.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Lee/1565314465 Mark Lee

    Imagine a small bunch of decrepit old people, a 100 years old each, who can’t give up on singing (or should I say lip-synching), control all aspects of “show-bizz” and don’t let any new artists in unless they are completely untalented and agree to put their asses for some hardcore action. There’s only rotten shit on radio and TV and if it wasn’t for internet 276 out of 277 million people in CIS would still be listening to Pugacheva (I hope you will never get acquainted with her “creative work”). As if 40 years was not enough.