MISS MAY I DOES NOT MOSH 4 CHRIST

Tuesday, July 6th, 2010 at 2:15pm by

Like most readers of MetalSucks, I feel like the world needs another screamy metalcore band like I need a goddamn hole in my head. Much like deathcore, though, only 99% of these bands are shit — there are a few good ones, if you’re willing to sift through all the crap. One of those gems is Dayton’s own Miss May I, a Gothenburg-core band who, I was shocked to find out, are actually not Christian. Aside from playing very competent metalcore, they’re also real nice guys who can take a joke and just want make the kids mosh it up at their shows. And if you can’t support that, you’re not only an asshole, but a poser.

Thanks to bassist Ryan Neff for taking the time to answer my questions, and catch them on tour now with The Devil Wears Prada!


Many MetalSucks readers are angry, lonely nerds who may not be familiar with your band since you don’t cater to overweight, agoraphobic shut-ins. How would you describe Miss May I to a metal fan who hasn’t heard the band?

Well I guess to most we are “that faggy Christian band that covered that rap song” or “those dumbass scene kids who play recycled metalcore riffs” haha, but I guess if I were to try and win someone over with an accurate description, we are 5 dudes who have always loved metalcore and appreciate its repetitive nature haha. We write music that we would want to listen to and draw most of our inspiration from bands like Darkest Hour and As I Lay Dying. We are NOT a christian band as popularly believed.


Fuck the haters, I’ll take Miss May I over Xasthur anyday


Out of all the Rise Records-style bands, Miss May I stands out as one of the most “metal” to me (this is where the haters will get butthurt). You also told me you were going switch things up a little on your upcoming record. Can you tell me a little about that?

We have always wanted to be a metal band. We are not fans of the keyboard, autotune trend and we do not have any of that. All our favorite bands that we draw inspiration from are dirty ass metal bands, and the formula is simple and we stick to it. On the new album we moved into a more mature direction, it was obvious to us that we had lots of room for improvement on our sound and if we wanted to tour with the metalcore bands we have always looked up to we need to clean up our sound and make it obvious as to what the fuck we are trying to play. Some of the songs on the last record are sort of “where the fuck did that come from” so we decided early in the writing process that we will make this album as metalcore as possible, because that’s what we want to do.

You objected when I included you in the “Autotune/breakdown 4 Christ” category in my recent post for MetalSucks. Clearly you have plenty of breakdowns, so what exactly was your objection? Is it that you don’t use Autotune, or that you have outgrown being a Christian band but can’t alienate your audience/embarrass yourself by vocally stepping away form it? (See also TDWP, MXPX, Blessed By A Broken Heart, The Maine, etc.)


Haha I’m glad you are asking this. We simply never EVER were a christian band. I’m a devout atheist and have been since I can remember. Some of the guys in our band are christians but we have never wanted that to be our focus. Our focus is and has always been how many kids can we cram into a room, how many kids can we get to circle pit, stage dive, beat the fuck out of each other, what ever it is that makes the concert experience as fun for them as it always was for us.

And no we’ve never used auto tune haha, and we won’t, not as long as I’m singing the cleans. I would rather be a dirty fuck up and have my voice be a little flat or sharp but be able to hear how much I am putting into it than to use the autotune stuff.

We do play breakdowns though, and we like it that way because kids dig them and so do we, so fuck it haha. So I guess that part of the description was spot on haha.

For those of us who grew up in a time when hardcore consisted mostly of basement shows with 25 people in the crowd, it’s really weird to see bands like TDWP, Attack Attack and Miss May I filling giant venues and selling a ton of records. To be clear, that’s definitely a good thing in my book, it’s just weird because I never thought I would see it happen — in your opinion, why has the genre blown up in the past 5 years or so?

Its weird to me too, and the whole band. We are not a venue filler – so when we headline its still dirty ass bar shows and constant headbanging and stage diving and that’s the way we like it, but I don’t feel that AA and TDWP are the same style as us. We are perceived to be the same thing by most but in our minds we are a different genre. We are happy to be touring with all of those bands and its a huge benefit to us I can see a huge difference in the styles when we play together. I think that with AA they have their own crowd of kids who love the mix of the dancy stuff with the breakdowns, and then the autotune singing puts them over the top. With TDWP, who I have always been a fan of, they have grown as a band. They nabbed up a huge fanbase being the “heaviest” christian band, and now that I have the pleasure of touring with them and calling them friends I see a more metal side that they are embracing, which is new for them but makes me pumped.

I think that’s why we are where we are though, we are willing to play any tour, and if there are kids we will do our best to win them over regardless of genre or musical tastes. We appreciate every fan (I know I know heard it a million times) but fuck who wouldn’t? We are lucky to be a band in an era where the fastest rising genre coincides with ours so its a great time to be metal I guess. In my eyes at least but what do I know right?

Like I mentioned to you before, I am old as shit (32). My ancient fossil friends and I always wonder about the influences are for bands like Miss May I. When I’ve interviewed bands like Of Mice & Men et al, I hear Underoath, Norma Jean, and As I Lay Dying come up a lot. Where does it start for you guys?

I used to HATE the style of music we are in haha, Silverstein used to be too heavy for me lol. My roots were Tool, Nine Inch Nails, stuff in that direction but when I joined my first local band metalcore was it for me. The simplicity and catchyness of the harmonized guitars, singing melodies made me stoked.

On our first album our inspirations were for sure everything the metalsucks fans hate haha, we were into bring me the horizon, and stuff of that nature but I think what helped us set ourselves apart on our first record “Apologies Are For The Weak” was our love for old school (to us at least haha) metalcore, like Darkest Hour – so we blended the two in a way that we thought made sense. And now on the new record we embraced the love for that metalcore style and tried to stray away from the BMTH side of things and incorporate more progressive parts into the metalcore sound.

It seems like metalcore/post-hardcore goes hand in hand with Christianity these days. How did that happen? Like I mentioned before, a lot of bands who started out as self-identified “Christian” bands stop thinking like (and more importantly acting like) Christians — what’s the right move for a band in that situation? Should they keep pretending to be Christian for the sake of the career, or be honest at the risk of their livelihood?

Dude I have no idea haha – I remember when I listened to AILD the first time … A massive Christian band and my favorite band, I was like wait a minute, this is CHRISTIAN!? I didn’t think anything that pissed sounding would or could be christian. Not being a christian I just never give a fuck about that. I like music for its sound and I can listen to any christian band the same as a non christian band. My favorite band ever is Tool haha, and then I also dig As I Lay Dying and TDWP.

I think the relationship came with the 03-06 rise of the metalcore/screamo power houses like AILD, and TDWP. I feel that its the same reason everyone thinks we are a christian band, because we are on Rise Records and they have had a lot of Christian acts.


Miss May I’s prerequisite top-40 rap cover

The genre of “metalcore” is a fairly recent phenomenon, but tons of bands refer to themselves as such. What does that term mean to you? Are you guys into hardcore at all? If so, what bands? Did you ever get into 18 Visions, Bleeding Through, Throwdown, and all those other first-generation 90s metalcore bands?

Oooooh man let me tell you about Bleeding Through haha. I was a BT “SUPER FAN” haha. They were one of the first “metalcore” bands my buddy showed me and I was so pumped as soon as I heard them. We had the pleasure of doing support for them last summer and it was completely surreal haha.

We all have a lot of respect for the history of metalcore, my introduction came in ’05 and I was immediately drawn to bands like Trvium, Darkest Hour, and Winter Solstice. Some of us are definitely into hardcore. That’s why we have so many differing styles on the last album and the new one, because we have a lot of influences, we just all draw primarily from the metalcore ones.

When I was in high school, the internet barely existed, let alone cell phones. How would you promote your band if Myspace, Twitter, Youtube, etc weren’t around? Would you kill yourself if you woke up tomorrow and groupies could no longer send you n00dz?

Haha as lame as it sounds to most dudes hoping we are “living the metal experience” we have always had girlfriends we are dedicated to so no nOOdz lol.

But as to the social networking stuff, I really have NO clue what we would do. My first local band began at the time when mypace was all the rage back in 05′ and now the way Miss May I promotes new tours, albums, or whatever it may be is 85% online. The small amount of times we have magazine promotion or interviews is always very special to me because its so much more old school but with the new generation on show goers and fans the internet is the way to go.

I also would like to say that I hate myspace lol. I think it ruined music as much as it helped. Granted that we are a band who benefited greatly from the myspace era, we also worked extremely hard honing our skills on stage, performing well and perfecting our craft to be able to write our music and play shows that capture audiences. There are tons and tons of bands now that are “touring” and are drawing no one, totally shot, yet with online hype kids would suck a dick over them. That leaves bands that actually work their asses off struggling if they don’t have the online hype.

I guess that’s just this eras changing of the guard. Everyone will adapt and things will change again I’m sure, and hopefully we are on top of it when the next thing happens.

The other night I saw Miss May I with The Devil Wears Prada. Before you played, Jerod was using the urinal next to me. He left without washing his hands. Is that how he rolls?

Hahahaha yeah probably, I too am a pretty frequent “pee and leave” kinda guy haha. My dong my germs I guess. Poop is a whole different ballgame lol.

One of the things that bums me out is that metal fans are really close-minded about accepting bands like Winds of Plague or Suicide Silence, who put out solid metal albums but apparently don’t look “metal” enough to get a pass from the metal elite. What are our thoughts on that situation?

We get that bullshit every day. Its not 2003 anymore, different things are popular ya know? I’m sure some people thought parachute pants were fucking stupid as hell in the 90′s but lots of dumbasses loved them. And hating on a band because they dress different than they did in “your era” just makes you sound like that bitchy old man that complains about “the good ol days”.

I don’t consider myself to be the most “metal” or “hard” dude around but whatever. I wear tight pants sometimes, most of the time actually and that’s cool with me. All the fans coming to see our style of music and bands tells me that that shit is not the main issue so I try to shrug that stuff off. If someone wants me to rock some jnco jeans and boots or they won’t listen to my band then fuck it, they can sit at home and secretly watch youtube videos of us and then get on lambgoat and hate on us lol.

-Sergeant D

Miss May I on MySpace and Twitter

  • >_>

    first *cuts ribbon* let the flame wars begin!

  • DemonicLemming

    Overuse of “haha” is as annoying as the dipshit kiddies these days who post “lol” after anything and everything, even when it’s painfully obvious it shouldn’t be used. Pretty easy to spot the kids who grew up talking to people in real life, and those who think Facebook chat is “talking to people in real life”.

    Also, people don’t like WoP and Suicide Silence because they “don’t look metal enough,” people dislike them because they fucking suck. On a semi-related note, the funny thing about all the guys wearing skinny girls’ jeans is that, in 10 years, their nuts aren’t going to work. Seriously. There’s a reason testicles are external organs, and it’s not so one can try and shove them back into their pelvic cavity using too-tight jeans to go along with the trendy fashion bullshit. Anatomy and physiology > fashion.

    • Glorious Johnson

      agreed

      “wants me to rock some jnco jeans and boots or they won’t listen to my band”

      who the fuck would walk out of a show because the band didnt dress nu-metal? seeing them do the crap dips to breakdowns definitely would make me walk out of the show however.

    • http://www.myspace.com/palehorseofhell lord assenfroth

      “ass” winds of plague and “please commit” suicide silence do in fact suck regardless of what they decide to wear. if a bunch of beiber swooped dick cheeses with pants that would fit a 4 year old came out with an album half as good as something behemoth or nile or one of the countless other awesome bands put out, i would happily like them.

    • CC

      Dude you guys can hate on suicide silence and winds of plague NOW.
      But when the cleansing came out every metal head jumped on that shit.
      Its not new or original anymore but it was fuckind delicious and refreshing to hear those bands when they first came out.

  • Ummm

    Why are they crabbing it up on stage? Are you saying metalsucks supports crab-core now? ha JK BUDDIES!

  • Kevin

    Good God guys. I love how you shit all over a band like Oceano ( which is fine, they suck), but are fans of this band, and fucking suicide silence. Pot, meet kettle.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/William-Morley/618112437 William Morley

      Actually, this post was written by Sgt D, so it’s probably not the view of Vince and Axl. I’ve never listened to Miss May I and they do have an awful band name but I enjoyed the refreshing honesty in this interview.

  • One of the Uno Champions

    I was almost impressed until I heard the breakdown I’ve heard in everything other hardcore song ever. Triplets and pinch harmonics used to be a good thing. I don’t understand the world anymore =(

  • Politude

    Looks like I have to go first, I like MMI, and I think that considering the recycled riffs that everyone ALWAYS described when beating the dead horse of metalcore/deathcore ( and a lot of you guys do, I get it, its the same riff and you don’t like breakdowns, got it, move on) they are still catchy in what they do.

    I also enjoyed the refreshing interview take by Sergeant D. Good man for asking legitimate questions instead of just giving shameless self-promotion.

    • Jonathan

      I partially agree with you. I like these guys for their sound, but I do with they would try to warp metalcore a little bit more, because, unfortunately, they do sound exactly like their influences. But with so many bands in the metalcore genre, and with the market being oversaturated with metalcore releases, it’s all gonna start to bleed together after a while, unlike bands like Behemoth and Dillinger Escape Plan, who, though unique, definitely will not sell as much as the more “familiar” metal of MMI, AILD, and so on.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-John-Crispen/100000169530540 Jason John Crispen

    “Like I mentioned before, a lot of bands who started out as self-identified “Christian” bands stop thinking like (and more importantly acting like) Christians — what’s the right move for a band in that situation? Should they keep pretending to be Christian for the sake of the career, or be honest at the risk of their livelihood?”

    most of those bands are “christian” because it’s popular/selling records right now. if “Jewish Post-Modern Art Rock” was popular, they’d be jumping on that bandwagon too.

    • gfactor

      When Jewish Post-Modern Art Rock becomes popular I’ll have died and gone to heaven

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-John-Crispen/100000169530540 Jason John Crispen

        hahahaha

  • Seer

    Wow rip-offs drawing inspiration from rip-offs. big surprise there. Also, moshing is for retards.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Robson/1375985482 Ben Robson

      if fun is for retards, give me an extra chromosome and put me in special class

      • orbital

        I lol’d

  • B-dizzle

    I thought Sergeant D actually had decent taste in music, but if he’s sticking up for bands like Suicide Silence and Winds of Plague, who I don’t judge based on looks, I judge based on their generic and uninspired music, then I don’t want to read his posts anymore because he’s obviously not as educated as he claims to be

    • Matt

      You’d be surprised how true that is with so many bands. Mommy and Daddy tend to kick start little Johny’s rock star dreams. Even if that means they buy the van, gear, and merch.

      • Matt

        Whoops meant this for the post below!

    • Dave D

      You’re an idiot. You won’t listen to anything he says because he (might) like a few bands you don’t?

      Never change, Elitist Metal Fans

  • Raoul Dukenstein

    It’s funny, I’m from Dayton and I don’t remember ANY of their local shows where they honed their chops. This band is Hawthorne Heights to me, whose parents money bought them the van and the tour.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-John-Crispen/100000169530540 Jason John Crispen

      well these dudes are from Troy, OH so maybe they played only hometown shows and never got to the metropolis of Dayton. HH is…. blah

  • orbital

    I listened to a few songs on grooveshark. Did I miss something? Sounds like generic shit to me. I get that they like metalcore and breakdowns, but seriously, try and think just a little outside the box.

  • ACoffinShip

    Well, THAT was fucking rubbish.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Karina-Valentine/1321121229 Karina Valentine

    I don’t judge bands such as Suicide Silence because they don’t have the “Metal look” it’s because they were getting boring with thier material and it started to sound the same on every song. After I listened to some of “No Time to Bleed” last year, I was so disapointed of thier work that I stopped being a fan of thiers.

  • kickoutthejamsman

    Are you kidding me?!? this pile of dog shit of XASTHUR?!? These guys are a lot better then most metalcore band Ive heard, but they are metalcore so thusly, they blow.

    • kickoutthejamsman

      *over Xasthur

  • ryanthedragonslayer

    Are you sure this isn’t Bring Me The Horizon under a different name?

  • Andy Synn

    As a side note to anything to do with the band, I would like to take issue with the articles assertion that “not making kids want to mosh [paraphrase]… makes you a poser”.

    It’s the fact that people think that music is a) made purely for kids (whichever way you choose to use that word, and b) simply so you can mosh/dance/pit without thought – that’s such a problem. Honestly, music used to be an art form, designed to express SOMETHING, not just to sell merchandise or to get “the kids” to mosh before they go back and do their homework.

    If kids want to msoh to something, well that’s good, it’s unifying and cathartic… but for god’s sake don’t waste everybody’s time just trying to write something to get that sort of reaction, that’s just as bad as being pop music.

  • KMFCM

    not christian, really?

    okay

    dude seem like he doesn’t have any kind of delusions about what the band is doing

    musically though, it’s everything i hate in metal these days

  • Andy Synn

    Oh god, I finally read the interview. No problem with the guy or his band, they’re a non-entity to me.

    But please, for god’s/science’s sake, please stop dragging Darkest Hour down to the level of generic metalcore. They’re not. Really they’re not.

    Sigh.

    • Bicro

      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

      Co-signed!

      Darkest Hour is cool.

  • Action_Bastard

    Wow, Sergeant D, way to kiss the guy’s ass for the entire interview.

    • XariaK

      and you would do things differently??

  • Fred Durst

    Im confused is it still opposite day or something?

  • http://stuffyouwillhate.com shawnyouwillhate

    I think they are good ohio boys who mean well…shocked they aren’t christian, guess it’s merely the company they keep.

    Much better that they were influenced by Tool rather than some boring shit like Morbid Angel, I mean does the world really need another white trash metal band with no energy live?

  • http://www.stuffyouwillhate.com/ Sergeant D

    Ryan is a nice guy, thanks again to him for putting up with my dumb questions!

    • Bicro

      Keep sucking the scene bands’ collective dicks, if that’s what makes you happy.

    • One of the Uno Champions

      I’m sure He’s a real peach. But his music is still bland, generic hardcore. Based on this video, this band has brought nothing new to the table.

    • -_-

      This band really are nothing special at all, and that vocalist is just bad.
      Also, you seem to be forgetting that The Bled are on Rise Records and they are probably the only decent band that shitsmear of a label will ever get.

  • Ralph

    Miss May I is the best band i’ve ever listened to.

  • Cameron Rhoads

    Fuck that. I love Xasthur…

  • Burrhurr

    Joey Sturgis produced their CD. It’s almost entirely against his ethos not to use autotune, if this kid thinks that theres no autotune on Apologies Are For The Weak then he’s deluded, I can fucking smell it.

  • Jizzmaster3000

    Will pay good money to have Sergeant D. killed.

  • John

    It’s true. If Joey Sturgis touched it, then everything is edited beyond belief, and the vocals are autotuned. However, I’m sure Sturgis does that after the band leaves.

  • Mike

    Wasn’t this kid in Rose Funeral?

  • Mike
    • One of the Uno Champions

      Those guys hit like bitches.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zach-Kasen/1170123218 Zach Kasen

    It’s obvious they weren’t a Christian band if you listened to their music carefully. Seriously, they drop the f-bomb a lot in their songs. Recycled? Yes. Cheesy? Check. Fun? For me at least, yes. Shit on this band all you want, I’ll have fun listening to them and TDWP.

    On a serious note, the new TDWP song is a fun song to listen to:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrlm84f8XZE

  • FongChung

    LOL!!! Yeah this interview is truly hilarious, and of course Miss May I sucks balls. Because well 99% of that music does blow.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tanner-Westhomas/1506171449 Tanner Westhomas

    I am not sure how i feel about Miss May I, they sound like AILD and BMTH with a lil Darkest Hour (very very little, i didnt think about it till i’d read that) i bought the cd not knowing what they sound like, because one of my favorite modern music artists (Dan -motherfucking- Mumford) did the album art. and for me good album art USUALLY means excellent music. i dont mind BMTH or AILD so it was just kinda blah to me, but most metalcore sounds similar to me. At least they arent just christian screamo, they are more towards metalcore sound to me.

  • Fuckwad

    I love how everyone here doesn’t seem to think (including the interviewee) metalcore existed before 2000. Retarded.

  • Howie

    Don’t be so intolerant guys. You might not be into it and it might be ‘generic’ sounding to you, but I could probably argue that most death metal bands’ blast beats, vocals, and guitar tone are just as generic as some of the breakdowns or harmonized riffs of post-hardcore/metalcore. I’m a huge fan of bands like Behemoth or Dismember or Skeletonwitch, but I’m not afraid to admit I’m also into stuff like Miss May I and TDWP or Children of Bodom. So if you disagree, flame on; not like it’s going to change my mind or that of anyone else.

  • Rik

    They sound alright to be honest, not keen on their harsh vocals though. And I can’t take anyone doing crabcore poses seriously at all, I’m afraid.

  • good kitty

    Sept 2 @ Santos Party House NYC: Order of Ennead (members of Deicide), Wormrot (brutal grind from Singapore), Mobile Deathcamp (with Beefcake of GWAR), Skull Crusher (NYC). All Ages! Tix $15 on ticketweb.com

  • Dick Chicken

    I listen to metal to get jacked up and breakdowns get me jacked up…. I don’t want a 7 minute 16 string bass solo plucked over a snare drum pounded 16 times a second……. their new album sucks dong… way too melodic and cookie cutter metalcore… their first album was a fucking hybrid thrash metal deathcore … oh and the crabcore thing…. people used to give Elvis shit for pelvic thrusting…. but the Christian fad is fucking homo… literary

  • http://bryce bryce firestone

    you guys are fucking amazing

  • http://facebook.com bryce firestone

    you guys are insanly amazing

  • DAMAG3D

    miss may i fucking owns the shit out of metal today. It took me a minute to get used to the melodic vocals but theyre done very well so i love it now and find myself singing along when im alone. the awesome vocals are backed up by some heavy instrumentals which maintain the brutality and makes for a fucking awesome contrast that is new, interesting, and badass. Long live MMI

  • Ohio Mang

    They’re from Troy, Ohio not Dayton lol

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/William-Morley/618112437 William Morley

    LOL