BLEEDING THROUGH TAKE ON TRUSTKILL

Monday, June 9th, 2008 at 11:48am by

We’ve heard lots of not so great things about the way Trustkill Records treat their artists, who have been jumping ship left and right as of late (see: Terror, Throwdown, etc.) – but we’ve never printed anything because no one was ever willing to go on record about it.

But now Bleeding Through have done a guest piece for Headbanger’s Blog in which they allege that Trustkill have basically joined the Tony Brummel club. Read the article in its entirety after the jump.

“It has been months and we have kept silent. But this latest slap in the face from our supposed record label has pushed us over the edge. We just read on the Internet that Josh Grabelle plans to release a ‘special edition’ of our 2006 album The Truth one month before releasing our new album.

“Let it be known that Bleeding Through is 100% against this so-called ‘special’ edition. We did not approve the title, cover artwork (whatever it is), track-listing or bonus features for this transparent and obvious cash-grab of a re-release from a record label that despite selling a quarter of a million of our albums worldwide is having problems.

“Over a year ago we suggested the idea of a re-release of the album to Trustkill — on our terms, of course, with our artistic vision — and he said he’d consider it if we could land a “big” tour. We confirmed a tour with Marilyn Manson and Slayer, followed by a tour with HIM, and he said, ‘NO’ to us. He thought we should put out a new album instead.

“Now we have a new album finished that we are very proud of and he wants to squeeze our fans and our band by throwing out an unapproved ‘special’ edition in a fast and overt attempt to pay some bills.

Trustkill no longer employs his sales guy, his art director or his publicist. “Trustkill” is now Josh and one employee in his basement, as far as we can tell.

“We have kept silent about the fact that we made our new album with a loan from our singer’s dad, a loan from our management and less than 25% of our recording fund from Trustkill. They breached our contract (not for the first time) on March 31st, 2008 when we hit the studio without proper funding and have failed to cure the breach.

In five years we have never gotten a royalty statement on-time, let alone paid on time. Right now he has owed us royalties since March 31st, coincidentally the same day this album began and when 50% of the budget was due!

“We wanted to keep our business with Trustkill private but with this so-called “special” edition going forward despite our numerous, outspoken and clear objections, we feel like our fans have a right to know what is going on here with both this obvious attempt to milk money from them to pay his debts and what is happening with our new album.

“Several labels have contacted Josh to help put out our album but he has jerked most of them around and has not come to terms on a deal to get this album out, which we are SO proud of, with the push it deserves. As of right now we have no idea who is supposed to be releasing our album overseas, or even really in the US for that matter.

“Josh’s website says our album is coming out in August but he hasn’t paid for it so we don’t see how that’s possible. For years now, we’ve watched photographers, graphic designers, equipment companies, bus companies and producers struggle to get paid their invoices and wait for months and months before being compensated for their work.

“Josh Trustkill will undoubtedly respond in public to this as a ‘miscommunication’ as he did with Hopesfall but our real fans and peers will know this is THE COMPLETE TRUTH about the situation.

“What’s great is we did that Manson / Slayer tour in a van and trailer and we have always been self-sufficient and have relied on our road crew, our families, our manager, our booking agent in the US and overseas, clothing sponsors, merch companies and others to help to pay our rent and feed ourselves. And most of all, OUR FANS!

“That is why we are confident that thanks to loans and credit cards, we’ll be able to go out with BULLET FOR MY VALENTINE this summer and to go to Europe to play festivals as we have always been self-sufficient.

“This is the last ‘option’ in our Trustkill contract. And despite the fact that he is in BREACH and has not cured it, we have still been patient about him getting his crap together because we want you to hear it so badly, and we want our INCREDIBLE producer Devin Townsend to get the rest of his money. We have waited and waited.

“Josh has told us ‘today or tomorrow’ in numerous emails and conversations for MONTHS now.

“Josh’s distributor has been working to help resolve this financially and we appreciate their efforts. But this isn’t their fault or their responsibility. And Josh’s financial problems are not our fault and shouldn’t be our concern as we’ve sold a quarter of a million albums for him and countless t-shirts while taking very little in tour support over the years.

“It’s now June 6 and nothing has really changed about the situation. We have sat back too long and we are tired, frustrated and beyond angry.

“We have weighed all of our legal options with Trustkill but we really wanted to resolve this face to face and direct. Josh has given us no resolve other than a lot of broken promises. We have told him we don’t want the fight. We just want our album to be paid for and to come out so we can move on from this crappy situation. He still hasn’t paid.

“Meanwhile while we wait… He comes up with this ‘re-release’ scheme. It’s one slap in the face too many.

“In better news, here are the song titles (for the first time anywhere) from DECLARATION, which we hope actually comes out someday! We want you all to hear it so bad. We know Trustkill doesn’t have the resources to get it out there and we’re prepared for low sales as a result, BUT, there’s NO WAY we’re handing over a master without the minimum money that was due to everyone so we can pay off Devin, Brandan’s dad, our manager and credit cards.

“Josh PROVE US WRONG by meeting your obligations, or LET US OFF YOUR RECORD LABEL ENTIRELY.

“1. Finis Fatalis Spei
2. Declaration (You Can’t Destroy What You Can Not Replace)
3. Orange County Blonde and Blue
4. Germany
5. There Was a Flood
6. French Inquisition
7. Reborn from Isolation
8. Death Anxiety
9. Beneath the Grey
10. Seller’s Market
11. Sister Charlatan

“We will see you on the road, where we have always survived and thrived.

“With Love and Respect,
Brandan, Brian, Ryan, Derek, Marta & Jona AKA Bleeding Through”

There isn’t even that much we can say about this. Neither Vince nor myself are even Bleeding Through fans – in fact, I’ve made fun of them at least twice that I can remember – but this is totally fucked.

The only person we ever knew at Trustkill was that publicist the band says no longer works there. Still, I’ve got an e-mail out to try and get some kind of comment on the situation from someone on the inside. Stay tuned, hopefully there’ll be more news soon.

-AR

  • Marketing 101

    ..playing acoustic guitars and bongos on the sidewalk outside of a Slayer/Manson show does NOT mean that you’ve “gone on tour” with them.

    Oh, and stop shopping at Hot Topic. You’re making all the emo kids cry.

  • SickSixSeth

    last i checked they were the opening act on that tour.

  • http://sirjorge.com/blogx sir jorge

    this sounds like the band didn’t do their homework about how record labels work.

  • jaime

    Ugh, it makes one wonder why any band would sign to any label at all, indie or major. I’m not a fan at all (in fact, i think this band kinda sucks), but its just a symptom of a greater illness. These companies know their days are number, as the cracks in the way the RIAA operated become larger and more apparent with their treatment of artists and aggression against consumers. It makes me happy to see NIN or even Radiohead doing what they are doing; granted, those are established, well selling, well to do artists, but if they progress and set the way for the internet to be a viable means of income for other artists, keep doing it.

  • http://www.myspace.com/evilsammy Sammy

    You listed this under “White Collar Criminals”, making the assumption (I’m guessing) that the little guy was once again screwed by “the man”. Maybe it’s just a dying business model and everyone is losing.

    I’m not saying this particuler label is not crooked or unethical, but I’m guessing they’re not laughing from their big pile of Bleeding Through’s money. They’re probably bad businessmen dealing with naive musicians who are even worse businessmen (and women).

  • http://www.myspace.com/divinationmetal thedoomsdaybroadcast

    they WERE direct support on the slayer/manson tour. people want to knock them for being “only the opening act”… keep in mind that EVERY band you like was an opening band before. the fact that they were chosen to play ont hat tour in huge. of all the bands that could have been picked. whether you like them or not, they have not only paid their dues, and they don’t deserve to be fucked over the way they have been. this isn’t their first album for Trustkill, they have been signed to label for years. it’s not the first time a band has gotten fucked by their label, not having anything to do with being a naive musicians… they didn’t just fall off the turnip truck. the label is simply not holding up their end of the bargain.

  • Gibbo

    I agree with thedoomsdaybroadcast, this isn’t a case of naivety, a dying business model, it’s a clear sign that this label is not pulling their weight, and is avoding direct answers.

    If they can’t keep their promises, and generally be a label that helps it artists, then they don’t deserve to be a label, ’nuff said.

    Here’s hoping Bleeding Through get their money, because Trustkill seem like fuckwits.

  • jaahn

    i’m not trying to defend trustkill or anything, but who really buys CDs anymore? especially when it’s a newer band like this that will probably just fade into obscurity once the next “flavor of the month” in metal comes along. keep in mind i’m not trying to dis the band either. i don’t even listen to them. i’m just saying newer bands need to pay their dues through relentless touring, and not rely on the record companies to cough of ca$h that, more than likely, doesn’t even exist. if their really that good, word will get out from the people who download their stuff, and money can be made on the road.

  • jaahn

    *cough up ca$h*
    sorry. typo. shit happens.

  • Carlos

    The band is horrid but how hot is Marta in that pic?

  • Kye

    Along with Bullet aren’t these guys like Trustkill’s biggest band? And if I’m correct about that, doesn’t that mean the label is fucking themselves by not helping these guys?

    And, I’ve always wondered, do Roadrunner, Century Media, or Nuclear Blast pull this shit too? Cause it seems that lately all the bigger indie labels have started having their artists come out about being fucked over, but I haven’t really heard much negative from any artist signed to those labels.

  • Stixnstond in L.A.

    was this the band that was playing while i was in the parking lot drinking???

    this picture looks like its a candidate for the “clever caption of the week”
    yes, fruits… eyeliner and a blck t-shirt and you too can look this tough ***FART***

    …oh, on a side note, Marta’s kinda cute-I wouldnt kick her out of bed

    & F*K LEECHING “RECORD LABELS” – what the hell is a label anyways

  • NateD

    Maybe Trustkill is the way they are since they have to deal with shitty metal core emo fags (above picture). I am not defending the label since I am sure everyone is at fault here. I remember when Trustkill carried prominent Hardcore bands back in the 90′s. I know music has changed as well as times, but this is garbage.

  • 36Thoughtless

    While I admittedly don’t care for Bleeding Through’s music, I can’t help but wince at what I see as a bad way to handle a legal issue–that is, going to the press about a contract breach.

    I don’t know, maybe it’s just me…

  • CrapMcPoopin

    say what you want about them, they make somebody happy somewhere, and they’re entitled to make money any way they can.

  • johnb

    umm, is this the funny photo caption of the week? I wonder if they have late night makeup parties and gossip about there boyfriends like the really tough men they are

  • http://cultclassicmoviereview.blogspot.com You Don’t Know Me

    Kye, though i haven’t heard anything about Century Media or Nuclear Blast, Roadrunner has a bit of a track record when it comes to fucking their artists over. just ask Sepultura.

  • Rob

    I don’t care much for this band, but props to them on writing an article which exemplifies the best in that hilarious “we’ve got fucking morals and ideals, man” hardcore rhetoric. That shit is always classic.

    But I’ve gotta agree with some of the posters here and just say that record labels in general and smaller labels specifically have a long, long history of this behavior. Now people can just bitch about it a lot easier than they used to be able to; blogs pretty much took care of that.

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